A world where this actually became industrially very successful combined with a lack of recycling could potentially add large new sink for phosphorus.
In general, be careful when creating a process which locks meaningful amount of phosphorus out of the biosphere.
I worry just a bit about this in reference to LFP batteries.
Ah, Destiny's Road, and it was Potassium.
"...dooming humanity to a slow mental extinction."
Great.
The potassium one is particularly horrible to think about because it's insideous. The problem removes your very ability to respond to the problem. The entire race just gradually devolving back to stupid, especially if it was from the result of our own actions consuming it all for some industrial or consumer purpose. And before that happens, for untold generations there would be rich people who could afford their kids to grow up with enough and perpetuate the permanent ruling class, and a permanent poverty class that physically can not ever escape or compete regardless of their attitude or effort.
There seems to be a memory hole about what follows. Probably not the "key limiting factor for life" you had in mind.
There have been various incidents where soldiers or people generally in third world countries have developed neurological diseases when machine oil contaminates (or is mistaken for) cooking oil. This isn't new, it's been happening for 100 years. There have also been cases of pilots becoming, or allegedly becoming, disabled due to inhalation of jet engine lubricants which find their way into the cabin air supply (passengers are notably not mentioned in most reporting).
Although intentional use of the more toxic compounds is generally avoided, machine oils are subjected to harsh environments and compounds can change, new compounds created. Kind of like dioxin contamination in herbicides, I don't see much evidence that oil additives are rigorously tested for unusually toxic compounds incidentally occurring during the manufacturing process.
I'm glad they're burning that shit under an exhaust hood in the picture in the article, hope it's turned on!
Apropos the memory hole remark above, here are some articles I found briefly looking around although none of them were ones I remember previously seeing / reading (such as the "famous" case of the British machinegunners in North Africa).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_soldiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphate_poisoning
https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/30448/know-lubrica...
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11254977_The_Toxici...
Also, epoxy already contains harmful endocrine disruptors, adding forever chemicals like those found in almost all flame retardants is just adding fuel to the fire (pun not intended).
It doesnt seem like any of the authors are making this commercially currently
I'm seeing #555 on #fff for the body text, and while I'd prefer a darker and thicker font that comes out to WCAG 7.46:1 and APCA 85.9
> After use, the material can simply be ground into powder and pressed into a new shape while heated, causing the bonds to rearrange themselves. This is known as thermomechanical recycling.
> it can also be chemically dissolved
I wonder whether either of these opens up any practical durability issues for this variety of epoxy.
> We have carried out ten [thermomechanical] recycling cycles, and the epoxy has not lost any significant mechanical strength in the process
Chemical dissolving is only needed for carbon fiber composite. 90% of the resin was cited to be recoverable in this process.
Also, if you are repairing plastic, consider "hot staples". A friend of mine just educated me on that 6 months ago, and I'm using them all the time, a starter kit costs around $50 though. This is a good, quick demo of them: https://youtube.com/shorts/43TDecNqTco?si=xsDJ3n7KMjpg8NVw
I most recently used this to repair a snapped headband on some sony headphones. I'd previously tried to superglue it, but the glue eventually came undone - but my "staples" are still going strong.
pfdietz•2w ago
westurner•2w ago
Will Phytic acid in Lignin-Vitrimer encase burning CNT carbon nanotubes in a phosphorous char cage, this preventing health hazards and combustion?
This says "phosphorous epoxy".
FR4 silicon PCBs are N-doped and P-doped.
westurner•2w ago
> The hypothesis in your text is chemically sound. The phosphorus [(polyphosphonates)] in the EMPA epoxy functions as an "intumescent" or char-promoting agent.
metalman•2w ago
pfdietz•2w ago
I think you're being overly hysterical there. Plastics in the ocean are certainly not ideal, but "existential"?
metalman•2w ago
lazide•2w ago
It isn’t good, but it isn’t any different than usual either.
wiml•2w ago
Also you might have noticed that a lot of sea life is scarcer than it used to be.
pfdietz•2w ago
kennywinker•2w ago
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoxy
if they were obtained from non-fossil sources - but they weren’t, and the industry hasn’t switched and may never switch to plant based.
Also, what you said isn’t necessarily true even with plant based resins. What is the carbon cost of producing new resin vs recycling old?
There’s more to the impact of a material than the carbon stored inside it.
Yes, we were all duped by the recycling industry. No that doesn’t make all attempts at recycling a lie.
pfdietz•2w ago
In the post-fossil fuel age, where is the net carbon supposed to be coming from? Unless we're using limestone, it's from the air, so there can't be net emission.
In the not-yet post-fossil fuel age, what matters is displacing fossil fuels as quickly as possible, not the relatively very minor amount of carbon embodied in the renewable energy machinery.
kennywinker•2w ago
Like if we end fossil fuels for energy, the cost of plastics will skyrocket. They maybe don’t contain enough carbon on their own to drive global warming, but we still need alternatives because otherwise that’s a many-billion dollar industry that is going to oppose stopping burning fossil fuels for energy.