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SETI@home is in hiberation

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
99•keepamovin•4h ago

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David_Osipov•1h ago
Wait, they have been in hibernation for almost several years, why to publish it now?
keepamovin•1h ago
It just completed. Published paper. Final release & final analysis: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ade5ab/...
ramses0•1h ago
TLDR of jve's AI comment:

You know of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal

SETI at Home was a screensaver that was looking for signals like that via distributed searching and they didn't find anything (but they do have telescope time for tackling the 92 highest priority follow-up scans).

leokennis•1h ago
I remember feeling like a right scientific benefactor running the SETI@Home screensaver on my Pentium II, looking at the fancy graphs.

Was it all for nothing?

Waterluvian•1h ago
It’s all mostly all for nothing.
keepamovin•1h ago
Well, except for Vogon poetry
blitzar•34m ago
It’s all mostly all for REDACTED
keepamovin•1h ago
No, they just published two papers in 2025. You can watch a video about it or link to paper in my other comment on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt07R_amRT8
p-e-w•1h ago
The fact that all SETI endeavors haven’t really found anything is actually a very valuable result, because it constrains “they’re everywhere, we just haven’t been looking” arguments quite a bit.

Even humanity’s (weak) radio emissions would be detectable from tens of light years away, and stronger emissions from much further. So the idea that intelligent life is absolutely everywhere that was liberally tossed around a few decades ago is pretty much on life support now.

netsharc•1h ago
Probably due to the Great Filter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtOGPJ0URM
MontyCarloHall•1h ago
>Even humanity’s (weak) radio emissions would be detectable from tens of light years away, and stronger emissions from much further.

That's not true. Non-directional radio transmissions (e.g. TV, broadcast radio) would not be distinguishable from cosmic background radiation at more than a light year or two away [0]. Highly directional radio emissions (e.g. Arecibo message) an order of magnitude more powerful than the strongest transmitters on Earth would only be visible at approximately 1000 light years away [1], and would only be perceptible if the detector were perfectly aligned with the transmission at the exact time it arrived.

[0] https://physics.stackexchange.com/a/245562

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0610377.pdf

isolli•41m ago
Thanks, these rules of thumb are very useful.

When you say perfectly aligned, what kind of precision are we talking about? If we aimed a receiver at a nearby star, would we be able to achieve this kind of precision?

voidUpdate•17m ago
This is my biggest issues with all of the messages we keep sending out to space. By the time it gets to its destination, it will basically be indistinguishable from noise
gamer191•1h ago
Well it led to the creation of BOINC, a distributed computing system that probably has led to scientific advances in other fields

So I wouldn’t say it was all for nothing, but it’s main benefit was the idea, and not the results it generated

andsoitis•47m ago
> system that probably has led to scientific advances in other fields

Did it though?

Izkata•20m ago
Except as a kid back then, the screensaver was trivial to install and neat to look at, and BOINC was a pain. I dropped it when they switched. I imagine some less-technical adults who were interested did as well.
wongarsu•54m ago
(Re)search is still valuable, even if the result turns out to be negative.
Cthulhu_•12m ago
That's pretty dismissive outright; consider uh. All forms of distributed computing, from cloud computers to bittorrent to bitcoin / cryptocurrency. Seti@home was one of, if not the first distributed projects, the predecessor of cloud computing and spreading a workload over many computers, years before Hadoop and map/reduce became popular (which at least in my head was the start of "big data" and cloud computing).

I won't claim it was "the" most important or it was critical in that, but it's not to be dismissed.

reconnecting•1h ago
I feel sorry for every child who didn't have SETI@home and X-Files at the same time during their childhood.

The truth is still out there.

losthobbies•1h ago
When conspiracies were a bit more fun.

Anyone else collect The X-Factor partworks magazine? I used to love reading it.

x187463•22m ago
Of all the current US conspiracy theories, the UFO/UAP conspiracy is still the most interesting and fully developed/ongoing conspiracy space. Just check out the recent 'Age of Disclosure' documentary from this year.

I'm not arguing a position on the theory, just saying it's very active and has the old-school qualities that were present in the 90's.

nkrisc•1h ago
This was my screensaver for several years starting in maybe 2001. It felt really cool as a 12 year old to be contributing to the project in some small way.

For a long time I would periodically check on the screen saver in case there would be some big message saying my computer found aliens or something. Never did though :)

entuno•42m ago
I remember seeing a prank program years ago that showed the SETI@home screensaver for a bit, then popped up an alert box saying "Alien Life Found!" with options to submit or cancel(!).

If you tried to submit it would spend a while with a really slow progress bar, and then say it failed to submit and asked you to contact SETI directly. I wonder if anyone actually did....

compounding_it•1h ago
The 14 year old me wondering if aliens were being discovered on my pentium 4 feels like the answer maybe out there. BOINC and SETI.
jomohke•1h ago
It looks like folding@home is still going https://foldingathome.org/

I'm quite surprised these are still around as I hadn't seen them mentioned in so long.

I always assumed the phase out of screensavers (and introduction of CPU low power modes) were terminal for them.

viraptor•1h ago
Are they doing anything not covered by alphafold? I thought that approach basically crushed all previous efforts.
cess11•1h ago
Here's their take on it:

https://foldingathome.org/2024/05/02/alphafold-opens-new-opp...

firesteelrain•1h ago
I forgot all about this project - thanks for the reminder!

You can run on a spare Raspberry Pi. I remember doing that. Performance isn’t great but every little bit helps

https://downey.io/blog/folding-at-home-raspberry-pi-arm/

lloydatkinson•51m ago
How many papers have been published as a result of this, and more pertinently, how many "real" things are now being made or used based on that? I'm hoping it's not all just perpetual "regrowing teeth" territory where nothing ever comes from it.
Cthulhu_•30m ago
It's right there on their website; please have a look around before spreading FUD: https://foldingathome.org/papers-results/
lloydatkinson•23m ago
I wasn't aware asking a question was FUD. That's also a list of achievements with no links without any information regarding how much if any volunteer contributed computing has contributed to them.

> please have a look around before spreading FUD

Please don't turn HN into reddit.

Cthulhu_•31m ago
I would've thought that with the advent of general purpose GPUs, cloud computing, etc that they would've run out of work by now.
Frost1x•16m ago
I think you’re missing the main limiting resource: money.

Some of these projects could occupy entire regions of cloud compute in some cases for awhile, some even more depending on the problem. But running that for even a short time or decades needed would cost more money than anyone has to do.

Academic HPCs existed long before cloud compute options and for certain problem spaces could also be used even in non-distributed memory cases to handle this stuff. But you still needed allocation time and sometimes even funding to use them, competing against other cases like drug design, cancer research, nuclear testing… whatever. So searching for ET could be crowdsourced and the cost distributed which is something that made it alluring and tractable.

I used to run a small academic cluster that was underutilized but essentially fully paid for. I’d often put some of these projects running as background throttled processes outside scheduler space so the 90% of the time no one was using them, the hardware would at least be doing some useful scientific research since it’s after-all funded largely from federal scientific research funding. There was of course some bias introduced by which projects I chose to support whereas someone else may have made a more equitable choice.

logicallee•1h ago
Contributing resources to a scientific experiment aligns contributions with outcomes, since getting a hit is knowledge that everyone benefits from: the result (including a negative result) is in the public domain and benefits everyone to know. In this case, the result is that after 20 years of distributed search, no plausible ET signal was found and verified. That's good to know!
dnel•1h ago
I rebuilt my PII system last year and really wanted to run SAH on it for old time's sake but sadly that hasn't been possible for a long time. I miss watching that old screensaver and optimising the system performance so I could get through a WU in less time, iirc at the time it took about 18 hours each.
gvurrdon•1h ago
Years ago I worked for another BOINC project, climateprediction.net and I'm pleased to see that they are still operating (see: https://main.cpdn.org/). IIRC SETI@Home was well-known back then - I'd always mention it if people asked what I did, and they usually recognised it.
markus_zhang•1h ago
Is there any other alien searching distribution screensaver? It was really interesting watching it do FFT back in the day.
sgt•1h ago
Used to have this running on all of our computers in the office back in 1999, or 2000. Such a satisfying screensaver! Then I went even further and put it on the servers too.
b3lvedere•34m ago
If i remember correctly, back then even some sysadmins were even fired over it because of the usage of resources. It also sprouted some weird projects on how to distribute all those unused cpu cycles for other things.
Cthulhu_•29m ago
And yet, distributed computing only became huge when people could earn / generate money off of it. Seti / Folding walked so that bitcoin could run?
b3lvedere•20m ago
I can't really condemn people trying to earn money with their cpu cycles, but good causes sometimes still exist.
chrisweekly•1h ago
mods: typo in title (hiberNation)
MrGilbert•54m ago
It could be [sic] added to it, as the source has the same typo.
kyleblarson•46m ago
My first internship was at DEC / Compaq in 2000. I was on their C compiler team and my project was to build seti tools with their updated Alpha Linux C compiler and compare perf against the tools built with the GNU C compiler. It was a fun project.
philipallstar•29m ago
That is very fun.
turbocon•42m ago
Any other worthwhile projects to donate cpu time to? I see Folding@Home is still going.

Update: looks like there is a Wikipedia list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_volunteer_computing_pr...

Would still be nice to know for the applicable ones if any success have come out of these or if they're just fun toys

janandonly•36m ago
I don’t believe extra terrestrial life will contact us through effort or negligence via radio. To help proof this I’ve run the SETI@HOME screensaver for years.
jasonhong•17m ago
Wanted to share this funny SETI@home prank that Monzy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Maynes-Aminzade) did in 1999, where he created a fake VB app that tricked a coworker into believing that his computer successfully found an extraterrestrial signal.

The original site is down, but jump to November 5, 1999 to see the screenshot. https://web.archive.org/web/20030404093458/http://www.monzy....

jjordan•8m ago
Sigh. I miss websites like this.
pjmlp•6m ago
Oh, I used to run it during the early 2000's.

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