Yes
Google Pixel devices are well made and took 4 out of 10 Editor's Choice picks here: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/best-android-phone/
I think the iPhones are out in front a little, but in a way that I'm not sure really matters. I loved the iPhone hardware I've owned, but the difference in build quality isn't noticeable unless you look carefully and isn't noticeable in a case. The only way I'd say it's noticeable is if you're a hardware nerd who knows how the things are manufactured, or if you get a repair bill. What Apple have done with iPhone hardware is a huge achievement, but said as someone who likes owning nice things, I'd happily take a Pixel 10.
It’s been more than long enough that I suspect no one could launch a third phone. If it doesn’t have iOS or Android it probably just won’t fly.
So I’m not sure how much they have to worry about.
Nintendo Switchphone2 - it is a Switch that can make phone calls.
Microsoft could do it if they wanted to, and didn't bungle it like the last three times. (lol)
The key in my mind is to NOT compete for the high-end, but as a feature phone.
If it even has 1 person in it.
20% of all phones sold are iPhones, and 80% are Android (or not 80%? Some small percentage is probably neither). Yeah, considering the iPhone has maybe 3-5 models, and across all the Android brands, maybe 500 models?
32% are other brands... interestingly Google belongs in said "other".
I found myself using both phones as I transitioned off the old one and barely noticing the difference mind you, which is a good sign in my eyes. I think Smartphones for the last 6 to 8 years are finally very stable. More stable than a Windows 11 laptop on Hardware people in the 2000s could only dream of.
Battery life, I guess, if I had to pick something else.
I can't tell you that I use the phone differently than I did then, because I don't. The camera on a phone, for me, is a nice to have in the moment, I'm not a photographer and I have never felt the need to have such an incredible camera at my disposal (except that my eyes are failing so using the zoom to see the distance has been nice... twice).
I've been thinking of dumping the phone entirely, except I have my cards on there (yes, cards are smaller) and, crucially, my online banking.
I thought about going to a 5SE, which isn't supported but would still kinda work, but my own one is bricked somehow and Apple doesn't allow it to be restored via Finder anymore. :(
Bear in mind, I still have an iPhone 17 for work, and a 15 Pro for home...
I hate this duopoly.
I don't notice any difference other than now I have a pile of useless lightning cables (good riddance). Honestly kind of a relief as I liked the 12 just fine. Phones kind of seem like a Solved tech these days. About as exciting to upgrade them as upgrading my Brother Laser Printer.
It had the most bizarre solution; airplane mode, set time to one year in the future, reboot, wait a few minutes, set time to 6mo in the future, reboot, wait a few minutes, set time to now, reboot. Went from 200GB to like 15GB. Was ridiculous.
(For anyone looking at this and considering doing it, you also need to ensure iMessage retention is forever, otherwise the iPhone will think it's a year old and delete the messages)
If it wasn't concerned on how nice it play with linux, I would already have one
https://www.ifixit.com/News/101397/an-update-on-iphone-repai...
OTOH, maybe the iPhone Fold will turn out to not be two giant slabs of glass that still won't fit in your pocket. Maybe it'll be a reasonable size folded up, and big when unfolded. A person can dream...
This is the first upgrade cycle that I upgraded in anger over an unusably slow and energy inefficient OS on an “older” model
I was traveling in south / south east Asia and my iPhone 15 Pro was dying twice a day despite minimal use besides maps and taking some photos. My battery health was 86% so not perfect but surely it shouldn’t die twice a day.
That coupled with the keyboard constantly lagging with every letter I typed made me realize Apple no longer cares about older models.
They threw that out with Liquid Glass.
I wish Android wasn’t also closing off their ecosystem.
My 14 Pro Max has been a champ (though I never upgraded to Liquid Ass, iOS 18 for life on this thing). I have almost zero real reason to upgrade, esp since it'll only cost me $100 or so to have the battery replaced in a few months (I'm at 84% and treating it poorly to get it to a point I can justify the expense).
Pros:
Better screen, cameras and build quality. Like way better. The glass on this phone is durable enough to not use a case and I don't. After beating it up for a year, its looks and works great. The build quality of this device is bordering alien.
Face ID is very nice. Touch ID does not like my skin.
I like the magnetic accessories and MagSafe.
Visual intelligence is actual quite useful for helping to identify stuff. I’m a curious person and actually use it.
Having flashlight on the action button makes it feel like a tool. I use the flashlight virtually every day.
It’s nice to not have my phone lag, which was a problem for the SE2. This phone is very capable, battery life is much better too.
Cons:
I have had more camera crashes on this iPhone than any I’ve ever had on a new flagship. Less than on my dying SE2, but the camera should not crash on a new flagship. It’s mission critical equipment in my book.
NoboruWataya•2h ago
I'm kind of surprised the latest S series phone isn't on there every year. I've always thought of it as the premium non-Apple phone.
Samsung annoy me with all the bloatware etc but the hardware is decent. I am in, I think, my seventh year with my S10 and it's going strong.
stackghost•2h ago
This is why it never has been and will never be considered a premium android phone. Samsung's apps are awful.
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bluegatty•2h ago
The winning example of tight product management is right there for them, but they continue to act like 'feature factories' without any concious 'whole product' design philosophy.
Probably many people within these organizations are aware, but they don't have the power to resist ingrained operational culture.
MBCook•1h ago
(I’m aware of the rumors)
That doesn’t mean you can’t go overboard. I don’t know Samsung’s current lineup, but I think we’ve all seen PC manufacturers who make 75 different models that are all just ever so slightly different for seemingly no reason.
yunohn•2h ago
You are entitled to your opinion, but the S series is objectively considered a premium android phone by basically everyone. By your standard, the only possible contender is Google’s Pixel lineup, but I get the feeling you might consider Google’s forced 1st party apps as intrusive too.
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recursive•1h ago
I'll probably never buy another Samsung.
Edit: Just thought of another one. I remember reading the news about how Android SMS was getting upgraded to have emojis or reactions or something. I don't remember the details. But it didn't work on my phone. A year later, I realized it was because I was using the Samsung messages app, instead of the Google one. I didn't even realize it.
blell•1h ago
>The Samsung Global Goals app is a, CSR initiative partnering with the UNDP to promote 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) to end poverty, fight inequality, and fix climate change by 2030.
ahartmetz•1h ago
I think you fell into the wrong rabbithole somewhere
Such virtue signaling by app is lame and hypocritical, but the UN is far too divided to be pushing anything.
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gambiting•2h ago
I used to buy every S Ultra phone every year, thinking the same - this year I bought the latest Oppo instead and wow, what a bubble I used to live in. The battery alone blows the Ultras out of the water, the chip is just as fast but stays cool, the camera and the screen are just better. The only thing that Samsung had over this was the anti reflective coating. Oh and it actually charges like a modern phone not something from 2015.
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silisili•1h ago
Phones out of China these days are all sporting ~7000mah batteries, even in smaller form factors. Samsung's biggest phone only has 5000, and that's not a small difference in battery life.
Maybe they're still reeling from the Note 7 fiasco?
thewebguyd•1h ago
The S series have had the same camera hardware since the S22, and the upcoming S26 is no different. That's 5 years of the same exact hardware, and borderline the same display since the S21.
People like to give Apple shit for releasing the same phone year after year, but Samsung has literally been releasing the same exact phone for 4+ years now.
Now, they scrapped the edge late, brought back the plus, delayed the S26 because Apple forced them to put 256GB as the base storage instead of 128, and there's rumours of a wider aspect ratio fold on top of the regular fold. They're just throwing spaghetti at the wall trying to see what sticks.
Samsung has no vision.
gruturo•1h ago
I entirely agree with you, and profoundly dislike them, but it's clearly working for them if their financials don't lie. While most other manufacturers bleed money, Samsung had healthy profits on smartphones last time I checked. It still puzzles me that anyone would buy them at all, but I've long accepted that I'm not a representative sample.
So given that, I don't see why they would bother coming up with a vision after all this time.
sounds•1h ago
It doesn't work for me, but that's because I courageously use my headphone jack.
vizzier•44m ago
Main things that stand out over apple:
- Much higher resolution camera w/ pretty incredible zoom. Though overall picture quality is a far closer comparison.
- S-pen, mostly used for its remote capability, shame they dropped that for the s25...
- Samsung Dex. I use my phone as my laptop daily, I've also used it as a dumb terminal for remote gaming while travelling which works exceptionally well
- Access to alternative browsers, ad blocking, alternate stores, side loading apps etc
While Google is no angel Apple actively works against open systems and control of your own devices, I'm glad to be out of that ecosystem.
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russellbeattie•1h ago
I prefer the Gallery app over Google Photos, the Samsung My Files app is cleaner than Google Files, Studio is a decent video editor, Samsung Notes is a capable rich text editor with pen support, Dex is a usable desktop shell, and more. Anything I don't like - like Bixby, Store, Keyboard, Wallet, Pass and Internet - I can easily replace and even hide them in the Settings. Combined they take up minimal storage.
I'm not sure what people expect Samsung to do, just use whatever Google says to use and not try to innovate?
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NoboruWataya•50m ago
To me, the benefit of the S series was "Android on decent hardware". I would have preferred as close to stock Android as possible. I mostly use F-Droid stuff anyway, though of course that means I am far from the average consumer.
They are primarily a hardware company - it seems reasonable to expect them to innovate there, and leave innovation in software to the software companies.