It's more a signifier of who grew up with Puritan roots.
So the idea that you have nothing to hide is completely banal. Those who are more powerful than you won't leave you alone just because you ignore them. They will eventually come knocking to steal your wealth and your freedom.
193 files for Eric Schmidt according to https://www.wired.com/story/epstein-files-tech-elites-gates-...
314 files for Larry Page
294 files for Sergey Brin
Interesting rhetoric. It's always the people you suspect the most?
And yet, there are always people willing to carry water for them.
The problem is that even if Schmidt didn't do anything wrong (I don't know but all the link says is he may have been invited to a dinner but probably didn't attend), he nevertheless had something to fear.
Privacy is good
Crime is not necessarily bad
You don't have to even go Anne Frank to make the argument.
Everyone who has been helping Google/Amazon/Meta construct their digital panopticons is culpable in at least some small way for the abuse that may follow.
Not only that’s very rarely true as the article shows pretty nicely… what is legal changes, sometimes drastically and rapidly.
I might be hitting a ideological belief of mine here, because I honestly can’t think of someone who would honestly state otherwise. Or that couldn’t be brought to agree with some explanation. Am I tripping ?
The data broker eco system is notoriously intransparent and dynamic.
Surely don't need to ditch the whole system then and just needs a better kill-switch.
No one really says that in an absolute sense, it is always in context, what it usually means is "I trust a particular institution with the data they collect", not "I will give my credit card number to everyone who asks".
For example, let's say you approve of the police installing security cameras monitored by police in your residence, if you say "I have nothing to hide" what you are actually meaning is "there is nothing these cameras can see that I would want to hide from the police". I think it is obvious that it doesn't mean you approve of having the same cameras installed in your bathroom.
The real question is one of trust and risk assessment. Are the risks of revealing a piece of information worth it? how much do you trust the other party? not the literal meaning of "nothing to hide".
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jacquesm•1h ago
I could update it but I think the fact that it was written before Trump I actually makes it more powerful than less, and you're welcome to extrapolate from 2015 to 2026 and see where it's headed.
elefanten•1h ago
I agree with your comment I’m replying to completely, but the date tag doesn’t have to be an indictment (as you yourself suggest)
jacquesm•1h ago
All of those big tech companies have willingly given in to Trump and his band of goons and are cooperating at a scale that dwarfs anything the Germans could have ever wished for. The article shows the damage that one single field in one single file could do. Now multiply that by a couple of 1000.
The potential for an epic disaster is definitely there and even HN is apparently not immune to having its share of bootlickers and bootwearers.
Kim_Bruning•1h ago
jacquesm•1h ago
It's an observed fact and I honestly don't care what anybody thinks of that. It should be pretty clear that I think that seeing such excesses requires one to take a stance rather than just to pretend it isn't happening.
Kim_Bruning•55m ago
defrost•1h ago
To cast the entire HN community as composed of {X} would be against the guidelines.
To deny that the HN community contains some {X} would be blinkered.
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frumplestlatz•18m ago
This is dangerously ahistorical and an offensive trivialization of the scale of human suffering inflicted by the Nazi regime. Fascism as practiced by the NSDAP involved the total integration of the state, the legal system, industry, media, and civil society into a single coercive apparatus in service of a genocidal war. German corporations were not “cooperating”; they were subordinated, aligned, and legally compelled within a one-party totalitarian state.
Yes, we substantially disagree on a contentious policy question. That does not change historical fact, nor does it make claims like “dwarfs anything the Germans could have wished for” anything other than profound historical illiteracy.
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defrost•1h ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46896376
ideally it should be in the submitted title, if not often someone will post it as above .. and later a mod might add it.
No biggie, as they say.
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jacquesm•46m ago
I could have updated the post date but I would have considered that cheating so I purposefully posted it as it was but left out the date.
But don't worry, it'll get flagged off the homepage soon enough because way too many people find this sort of thing uncomfortable.
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