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Why E cores make Apple silicon fast

https://eclecticlight.co/2026/02/08/last-week-on-my-mac-why-e-cores-make-apple-silicon-fast/
56•ingve•2h ago

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tyleo•1h ago
These processors are good all around. The P cores kick butt too.

I ran a performance test back in October comparing M4 laptops against high-end Windows desktops, and the results showed the M-series chips coming out on top.

https://www.tyleo.com/blog/compiler-performance-on-2025-devi...

murderfs•1h ago
This is likely more of a Windows filesystem benchmark than anything else: there are fundamental restrictions on how fast file access can be on Windows due to filesystem filter drivers. I would bet that if you tried again with Linux (or even in WSL2, as long as you stay in the WSL filesystem image), you'd see significantly improved results.
philistine•40m ago
Which still wouldn’t beat the Apple Silicon chips. Apple rules the roost.
Kuinox•10m ago
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/laptop.html
cubefox•29m ago
Here is a more recent comparison with Intel's new Panther Lake chips: https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/cpus/panther-lake-is-int...
etrvic•19m ago
From your article it seems like you benchmark compile times. I am not an expert on the subject, but I don't see the point in comparing ARM compilation times with Intel. There are probably different tricks involved in compilation and the instructions set are not the same.
roomey•28m ago
Genuine question, when people talk about apple silicon being fast, is the comparison to windows intel laptops, or Mac intel architecture?

Because, when running a Linux intel laptop, even with crowd strike and a LOT of corporate ware, there is no slowness.

When blogs talk about "fast" like this I always assumed it was for heavy lifting, such as video editing or AI stuff, not just day to day regular stuff.

I'm confused, is there a speed difference in day to day corporate work between new Macs and new Linux laptops?

Thank you

newsclues•24m ago
Power management with Mac’s is the big benefit, imo.

It’s all about the perf per watt.

cj•24m ago
For me it’s things like boot speed. How long does it take to restart the computer. To log out, and log back in with all my apps opening.

Mac on intel feels like it was about 2x slower at these basic functions. (I don’t have real data points)

Intel Mac had lag when opening apps. Silicon Mac is instant and always responsive.

No idea how that compares to Linux.

nottorp•12m ago
Hmm? Why do you restart your computer often enough to notice?

Even Windows (or at least my install that doesn't have any crap besides visual studio on it) can run for weeks these days...

eru•7m ago
Well, completely rebooting is a lot slower on my Macs than on my Linux.

But I'm running a fairly slim Archlinux install without a desktop environment or anything like that. (It's just XMonad as a window manager.)

nerdsniper•3m ago
Windows can boot pretty fast these days, I'm always surprised by it. I run LTSC on mine though, so zero bloat. Both my Macs and Windows LTSC have quick boots nowadays, I'm not sure I could say which is faster, but it might be the Windows.
smw•23m ago
Apple silicon is very fast per size/watt. The mind blowing thing is the macbook air that has weighs very little, doesn't have a fan, and feels competitive with top of the line desktop pcs.
eru•8m ago
Of course, it's only competitive for short bursts of serious CPU work. The thermal limits do kick in pretty quickly.

(I love my MacBook Air, but it does have its limits.)

nerdsniper•5m ago
I looked into this for the M1 MBA and it had the exact same performance at full load as the MBP...for 7 minutes. Then the thermal throttling hits and it slows down. I'm not sure what the time limit is for newer models. Regardless, the MBA's aren't offered with Pro/Ultra chips, which I desire (and would thermally throttle much sooner than 7 minutes).
jsheard•7m ago
Apple chips are very good especially for their power envelope, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, the only way a Macbook Air feels competitive with a top of the line desktop is if you're not actually utilizing the power of the desktop. GPU-wise especially, we're talking about a full order of magnitude difference between an M4 and a 5090.
throwa356262•19m ago
First of all, Apple CPUs are not the fastest. In fact top 20 fastest CPUs right now is probably an AMD and Intel only affair.

Apples CPUs are most powerful efficient however, due to a bunch of design and manufacturing choices.

But to answer your question, yes Windows 11 with modern security crap feels 2-3 slower than vanilla Linux on the same hardware.

rahkiin•15m ago
My windows with corporate crap is sometimes 2000x slower than without corporate crap. And consistently 10x slower than an M3
PaulHoule•4m ago
I was impressed with my M4 mini when I got it a year ago but sometime after the Liquid Glass update it is now: beachball… beachball… beachball… reboot… beachball… beachball… Reminds me of the bad old days of Win XP.
vachina•6m ago
My RHEL vnc feels snappier than the Windows 11 client it’s running on.

With maximum corporate spyware it consistently takes 1 second to get a visual feedback on Windows.

nerdsniper•7m ago
I use pretty much all platforms and architectures as my "daily drivers" - x64, Apple Silicon, and ARM Cortex, with various mixtures of Linux/Mac/Windows.

When Apple released Apple Silicon, it was a huge breath of fresh air - suddenly the web became snappy again! And the battery lasted forever! Software has bloated to slow down MacBooks again, RAM can often be a major limiting factor in performance, and battery life is more variable now.

Intel is finally catching up to Apple for the first time since 2020. Panther Lake is very competitive on everything except single-core performance (including battery life). Panther Lake CPU's arguably have better features as well - Intel QSV is great if you compile ffmpeg to use it for encoding, and it's easier to use local AI models with OpenVINO than it is to figure out how to use the Apple NPU's. Intel has better tools for sampling/tracing performance analysis, and you can actually see check you're loading the iGPU (which is quite performant) and how much memory you're using. The iGPU's can also be configured to use varying amounts of system RAM - I'm not sure how that compares to Apple's unified memory for effective VRAM, and Apple has higher memory bandwidth/lower latency.

I'm not saying that Intel has matched Apple, but it's competitive in the latest generation.

vachina•4m ago
So much Intel the 5 year old M1 still smokes any modern ultrabook (in terms of usability)
ricardobeat•26m ago
> The fact that an idle Mac has over 2,000 threads running in over 600 processes is good news

Not when one of those decides to wreck havoc - spotlight indexing issues slowly eating away your disk space, icloud sync spinning over and over and hanging any app that tries to read your Documents folder, Photos sync pegging all cores at 100%… it feels like things might be getting a little out of hand. How can anyone model/predict system behaviour with so many moving parts?

fragmede•23m ago
and if it paid off, that would almost be acceptable! But no. After spotlight has indexed my /Applications folder, when I hit command-spacebar and type "preview.app", it takes ~4 seconds on my M4 laptop to search the sqlite database for it and return that entry.

grumble

admissionsguy•21m ago
TIL there is a search bar triggered by CMD+Space. After 15 long years.
rngfnby•9m ago
Too late. Apple has destroyed it.

I just got my first ARM Mac to replace my work Win machine (what has MS done to Windows!?!? :'()

Used to be I could type "display" and Id get right to display settings in settings. Now it shows thousands of useless links to who knows what. Instead I have to type "settings" and then, within settings, type "display"

Still better than the Windows shit show.

Honestly, a well setup Linux machine has better user experience than anything on the market today.

tambourine_man•17m ago
I may be a spotlight unicorn, but I’ve never seen this behavior people complain about. Spotlight has always been instant for me, since its introduction and I’ve never seen a regression.

It is completely useless on network mounts, however, where I resort to find/grep/rg

etrvic•15m ago
On my Intel mac searching with cmd+space for a file takes under a second. Maybe there is a problem on your end?
ricardobeat•11m ago
I’ve actually had worse problems as recently as last week: Apps stopped showing up completely in spotlight after the Tahoe update.

Only a system reinstall + manually deleting all index files fixed it. Meanwhile it was eating 20-30GB of disk space. There are tons of reports of this in the apple forums.

Even then, it feels a lot slower in MacOS 26 than it did before, and you often get the rug-pull effect of your results changing a millisecond before you press the enter key. I would pay good money to go back to Snow Leopard.

hmokiguess•2m ago
for me it’s iMessage, it gets out of sync way too often and then it eats the CPU away
amelius•16m ago
That's just framing. A different wording could be: by moving more work to slow (but power efficient) cores, the other cores (let's call them performance cores) are free to do other stuff.

Why E cores make Apple silicon fast

https://eclecticlight.co/2026/02/08/last-week-on-my-mac-why-e-cores-make-apple-silicon-fast/
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