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Japanese Death Poems

https://www.secretorum.life/p/japanese-death-poems-part-3
36•NaOH•2d ago

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block_dagger•1h ago
Death is apparently snowy
lukan•1h ago
I don't know whether there is a specific japanese cultural explanation, but in general it often was. In winter when it was cold, those who lacked the strength to go on, layed down in the snow to rest forever.
seletskiy•1h ago

  Now that my storehouse
  has burned down, nothing
  conceals the moon.
This piece instantly reminded me of Ashes and Snow movie, where one of the poems has very similar opening (followed, in my opinion, by even more beautiful piece):

  Ever since my house burnt down,
  I see the moon more clearly
I wonder whether or not this is just a coincidence.
aanet•1h ago
I was reminded of the writer Pico Iyer's beautiful writing in Aflame: Learning from Silence of exactly this sentiment, after his house burned down [1]

`My house burnt down

I can now see better

The rising moon`

[1] https://www.mariashriversundaypaper.com/pico-iyers-fire-grie...

pelasaco•1h ago
"A last fart: are these the leaves of my dream, vainly falling?

In the original, the image of a dream is combined with the cruder image of passing wind.."

Is the wind representing the fart here?

shawn_w•27m ago
Passing wind is another term (among many others) for farting.
pjc50•18m ago
"Passing wind" is an English euphemism, the original does not use "kaze" (wind) but goes straight for "he" (fart).

The original word order also puts the dream at the start and drops fart right at the end, which I think is funnier than putting it on the first line.

pndy•1h ago
This is surely epitaph equivalent from that part of the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epitaph?useskin=vector

pjc50•30m ago
I only know a tiny corner of the language, but for things like this I really wish they'd cite the original Japanese. Precisely because the haiku is a constrained form, it is also an opportunity for ambiguity, double-meaning, and cases where a word may be translated with the same semantics but different connotations.

By comparison, the gold standard for dealing with non-English poetry in English: https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1...

You have (1) the original Greek, (2) word-by-word lookup, (3) translation notes, and (4) multiple translations.

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