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New 'negative light' technology hides data transfers in plain sight

https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2026/03/New-negative-light-technology-hides-data-transfers-in-plain-sight
32•wjSgoWPm5bWAhXB•2d ago

Comments

charcircuit•1h ago
It seems simpler to use a secure radio protocol instead of relying on security by obscurity for communication.
StevenWaterman•1h ago
A covert signal is still beneficial even if the signal is secure. The existence of the signal is valuable metadata.

For a contrived example, imagine I'm in a warzone:

- Secure = Enemies can't read my messages. Good. But they can still triangulate my position.

- Covert = Enemies don't know I exist

pinkmuffinere•57m ago
+1. As another example see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station -- people can't decipher the messages, but they strongly suspect something spy-y is going on. If they couldn't even detect it, there would be no suspicion.

Also hi StevenWaterman, I recognize you from previous comments! I think this is the first time that's happened to me on HN

applfanboysbgon•26m ago
Another example: in some regimes merely using Tor is illegal, or say in the US using it is enough to justify a search warrant for probable cause, with no evidence of any actual wrongdoing. The EU Chat Control lobby is also trying very hard to criminalize encryption. The simple act of trying to communicate privately is taken as indicative of criminal wrongdoing in the modern world. Being able to communicate without adversarial parties knowing you're communicating is a boon.
jkhdigital•51m ago
Secure channels can still be jammed. Undetectability is a fundamentally different goal than secrecy.
bob1029•40m ago
DSSS is sort of both security and obscurity at the same time. The very act of spreading your spectrum out via a secret key also has the effect of reducing the amplitude of your transmission, ideally below the noise floor. A receiver on the other side wouldn't see anything except noise unless they had the same key.
hmmokidk•8m ago
I am sure you could encrypt the warmth message somehow.
thatcherc•1h ago
Link to the paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41377-025-02119-y

From the abstract:

> Here, we demonstrate a covert communications method in which photon emission is rapidly electrically modulated both above and below the level of a passive blackbody at the emitter temperature. The time-averaged emission can be designed to be identical to the thermal background, realizing communications with zero optical signature for detectors with bandwidth lower than the modulation frequency

It sounds like maybe they're modulating the emissivity of a diode up and down so that over time, it IR spectrum looks like black body radiation. Only someone looking at the intensity of the thermal radiation coming from the diode at really fast timescales (kilohertz or megahertz) would notice that there was a signal being transmitted.

TheOtherHobbes•1h ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but this reads like a complicated way to say "We made an IR diode that gets cold as well as hot."
scottyah•1h ago
It's impressive how this article made this sound like a breakthrough, didn't even mention the entire historied field of steganography once.
jkhdigital•50m ago
The paper itself mentions steganography in the second sentence at least.

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