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Jazz CRJ9 at New York on Mar 22nd 2026, collision with fire truck on runway

https://avherald.com/h?article=536bb98e
37•Shank•2h ago

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cmiles8•2h ago
Emergency vehicles were en route to another emergency in progress on the other runway. Sadly it sounds like a fire truck was cleared to cross the active runway moments before the CRJ landed. By the time the controller realized that mistake it was too late.
_moof•2h ago
I'm very, very curious about whether the ARFF crew visually cleared the runway and final before crossing the hold short line. It's standard procedure for flight crew to do this, specifically to mitigate the risk of ATC errors.
PierceJoy•1h ago
I mean, isn't it obvious that they didn't?
wat10000•1h ago
It’s obvious that either they didn’t, or they did but they didn’t see the plane. We don’t know which.
bombcar•1h ago
At night with multiple runways it can be very hard to see a plane on final.

Still, I'm always hesitant to cross an active runway.

gortok•33m ago
Reports are there were fog and rain at La Guardia at the time of the incident. They were on a short final, and it’s entirely possible they were not visible to the fire truck’s crew.
cjrp•2h ago
ATC recording on https://www.liveatc.net/recordings.php Fire truck was cleared to cross and then told to stop. I'm not sure if they were the only controller working at the time, they continued working after the incident which seems unusual; my understanding is normally they'd be relieved by another controller.
brownieeee•1h ago
They were indeed the only controller, working both ground and tower frequencies.
newsclues•1h ago
https://x.com/thenewarea51/status/2035926457394876837

ATC audio

make a mistake, recognize it, and then have to continue on your job, knowing you likely just killed people, because if you don't others will die.

The weight of some jobs is immense, and our civilization relies upon workers to shoulder the burden everyday.

wat10000•1h ago
And these guys are tremendously overworked because the government can’t get its shit together to hire enough people to staff at appropriate levels.
callmeal•55m ago
"Government"? Let's call it what it is. ITYM "Republicans".
tatersolid•40m ago
The shortage of ATC staff dates back to the Clinton Administration. It’s just hard to attract people into a 5+ year training program for a very stressful job where you might get bounced near the end with no payout and no transferrable job skills.
lesuorac•36m ago
I think you mean Reagan. He removed the union for the ATC not Clinton.

Honestly, you can generally just blame Reagan for about anything. A presidency about weaking labor, strengthening Iran, and ballooning the deficit is uh never going to leave good traces.

achr2•32m ago
No the shortage goes back to Regan when their justified strike was busted. It ended the PATCO “union” and was a negative turning point for labour unions in general.
jasonlotito•23m ago
Yes. Reagan was a Republican.
throw0101d•1h ago
"Plane and ground vehicle collide at New York's LaGuardia airport halting flights":

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47486386

renewiltord•37m ago
Are the increased number of air incidents since Dec 2024 reflective of anything real or is it more attention on something? Brigida v. USDOT comes to mind but doesn't seem relevant. I'm sure we could all construct a chain of "this thing happened that caused that which caused this" and so on, but I'm curious if someone has done the effort to see whether such a chain is defensible.

Also, did the pilots die in the collision or in some sort of aftermath? The cockpit looks absolutely smashed.

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https://avherald.com/h?article=536bb98e
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