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An open-source 240-antenna array to bounce signals off the Moon

https://moonrf.com/
38•hillcrestenigma•2h ago

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infinitewars•1h ago
Wild hardware flex for a garage project. Reverse-engineering the Pi 5's MIPI to push 5.6 Gbps from custom MASH sigma-delta ADCs to a Lattice ECP5 FPGA to the Raspberry Pi is serious engineering. The idea that the RF receiver looks like a "camera" to the Pi while the transmitter is a "display" is super creative. Getting a 1.5 kW, 240-antenna EME array for $2,499 is actually cheap for something like this.

Their standalone 4-antenna tiles (https://moonrf.com/updates/) show off some killer apps, like 30 fps spatial RF visualization and NEON-optimized drone video interception.

I'm rolling my eyes at the "Agentic Transceiver" part, though. It is highly doubtful that an onboard AI casually writes, debugs, and compiles a real-time C app with analog video color sync recovery and decode in ten minutes.

HNisCIS•1h ago
I'm struggling to understand the signal chain or antenna architecture here. If those two MAX chips are 2829s this would be 2x2 mimo per tile but I'm not super familiar with that product line and the PCB layout looks like a 4x4 setup.

And yeah, the agentic stuff is dumb, I've played a ton with doing low level SDR work on Opus 4.6 and it's truly ass.

Also, the "can't radar, plz don't ITAR" is horseshit. Some basic fw tweaks and you could get this to be, at the very least, a sweet FMCW setup.

jcalvinowens•48m ago
> Getting a 1.5 kW, 240-antenna EME array

It says 1W TX power per antenna. So the 240 antenna array which draws 1500W has a transmit power of 240W.

HNisCIS•47m ago
EIRP. There's some gain involved.
jcalvinowens•27m ago
I think they're claiming the actual transmit power is 240W (23.8 dBW), and the EIRP is 63.1 dBW.

I am sort of skeptical of the claimed gain... even at 6GHz, you need a 2-meter parabolic reflector to get 40dB, the array is 1/10th that diameter. EDIT: Ignore this second paragraph I misread the spec page.

mrtnmcc•24m ago
The MoonRF array is a full 1 meter diameter as shown on the page
jcalvinowens•23m ago
I'm asleep and I misread that as 10cm. Thanks.
diimdeep•1h ago
Cool, how full array compares to the single antenna placed on Starlink satellite ?
drmpeg•31m ago
Previous post.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45790672

infinitewars•13m ago
looks like there have been updates since then: https://moonrf.com/updates/

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