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The Miller Principle (2007)

https://puredanger.github.io/tech.puredanger.com/2007/07/11/miller-principle/
36•FelipeCortez•4d ago

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smitty1e•1h ago
I have found much value in reading the python and sqlite documentation. The Arch wiki is another reliable source.

Good documentation is hard.

Akcium•1h ago
I would love to answer your comment but I didn't read it :P
simultsop•42m ago
I don't know. Under pressure and stress all docs are ugly.
realaleris149•1h ago
The agents will read them
taffydavid•1h ago
I read this entire post and all the comments this disproving the Miller principle
armchairhacker•47m ago

    This principle applies to the following:

    - User documentation
    - Specifications
    - Code comments
    - Any text on a user interface
    - Any email longer than one line
Not blog posts or comments. Ironic
taffydavid•33m ago
Damn, I guess I didn't read it closely enough
sebastianconcpt•11m ago
Proved that read is not causation of understanding but mere correlation.

So if the read of the Miller principle is interpreted as read+understanding (it should) an interesting deeper discussion can happen.

It can be invoked with a way more dramatic "None understands anything"

Animats•1h ago
The LLMs read everything.
formerly_proven•55m ago
Only because they are architecturally unable to not read something.
simultsop•43m ago
until one day
krona•41m ago
It doesn't mean they're paying attention.
spiderfarmer•1h ago
The Laravel documentation is GREAT when you're getting started. Every chapter starts by answering the very question you might ask yourself if you're going through it top to bottom.

I'm a one-man-band so if I write code comments, I write them for future me because up to this point he has been very grateful. Creating API documentation is also easy if you can generate it based on the comments in your code.

Maybe rename it the Filler principle. Nobody reads mindless comments that are 'filler'.

comrade1234•1h ago
Despite using an ai while programming I still have open Java doc and other api documents and find them very useful as the ai often gives code based on old apis instead of what I'm actually using. So I do read those documents.

But also, I have a somewhat mentally ill (as in he takes medication for it) coworker that sends rambling extra-long emails, often all one paragraph. If I can't figure out what he's asking by reading the first couple and last couple of sentences I ask him to summarize it with bullet pouts and it actually works. Lol.

makach•1h ago
..and emails
stevage•39m ago
> Any email longer than one line

it's in there

sarreph•10m ago
The irony.
hamdouni•54m ago
Yeah, i'm also surprised people just read post title and jump to conclusions ...
torben-friis•51m ago
I wish this was the case. Then we wouldn't have a minority of us deeply frustrated :)

'Thanks for the doc, let's set a meeting' (implied: so you can read the doc aloud to us ) is the bane of my existence.

stevage•44m ago
Should probably be "The Miller Principle (2007)"
sdevonoes•43m ago
I think this is more true now than ever. Before LLMs, when someone came up with an ADR/RFC/etc you had to read it because you had to approve it or reject it. People were putting effort and, yeah, you could use them in your next perf. review to gain extra points. You could easily distinguish well written docs from the crap (that also made the job of reviewing them easie)

Nowadays everyone can generate a 20-page RFC/ADR and even though you can tell if they are LLM generated, you cannot easily reject them based on that factor only. So here we are spending hours reading something the author spent 5 min. to generate (and barely knows what’s about).

Same goes for documentation, PRs, PRs comments…

ghgr•9m ago
As a counterexample, thanks to LLMs many long-form articles that get posted with clickbaity (but devoid of content) headlines that I would have ignored otherwise now get "read" (albeit indirectly, with the prompt "Summarize the insights of the article $ARTICLE_URL in an academic, dry, technical and information-dense way")
eru•5m ago
I notice that with YouTube videos.
coopykins•41m ago
It's one of the main things I learned when working as tech support and I talked with users all day. Nobody reads anything.
funnybeam•20m ago
I used to refer to the helpdesk as the reading desk - “Hello, you’re through to the IT Helpdesk, what can i read for you today?”
timrobinson33•8m ago
tl;dr
ekjhgkejhgk•7m ago
Damn, this is thin content even for HN.

Anyway, this is just projection. The Miller principle really should be "Miller doesn't read anything". I read plenty.

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