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Filing the corners off my MacBooks

https://kentwalters.com/posts/corners/
305•normanvalentine•3h ago•186 comments

Artemis II safely splashes down

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/artemis-ii-splashdown-return/
275•areoform•1h ago•82 comments

Chimpanzees in Uganda locked in eight-year 'civil war', say researchers

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr71lkzv49po
222•neversaydie•6h ago•116 comments

1D Chess

https://rowan441.github.io/1dchess/chess.html
646•burnt-resistor•9h ago•124 comments

Installing Every* Firefox Extension

https://jack.cab/blog/every-firefox-extension
110•RohanAdwankar•3h ago•20 comments

WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2026-April/009561.html
395•zx2c4•9h ago•109 comments

Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

https://github.com/Keychron/Keychron-Keyboards-Hardware-Design
298•stingraycharles•8h ago•92 comments

Italo Calvino: A Traveller in a World of Uncertainty

https://www.historytoday.com/archive/portrait-author-historian/italo-calvino-traveller-world-unce...
17•lermontov•1h ago•4 comments

AI assistance when contributing to the Linux kernel

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
155•hmokiguess•6h ago•123 comments

JSON formatter Chrome plugin now closed and injecting adware

https://github.com/callumlocke/json-formatter
141•jkl5xx•6h ago•72 comments

Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

https://blog.samaltman.com/2279512
149•jack_hanford•2h ago•267 comments

Helium is hard to replace

https://www.construction-physics.com/p/helium-is-hard-to-replace
253•JumpCrisscross•10h ago•166 comments

CPU-Z and HWMonitor compromised

https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/10/cpuid_site_hijacked/
257•pashadee•11h ago•82 comments

Watgo – A WebAssembly Toolkit for Go

https://eli.thegreenplace.net/2026/watgo-a-webassembly-toolkit-for-go/
76•ibobev•6h ago•5 comments

What is RISC-V and why it matters to Canonical

https://ubuntu.com/blog/risc-v-101-what-is-it-and-what-does-it-mean-for-canonical
91•fork-bomber•2d ago•55 comments

Launch HN: Twill.ai (YC S25) – Delegate to cloud agents, get back PRs

https://twill.ai
50•danoandco•9h ago•46 comments

Show HN: FluidCAD – Parametric CAD with JavaScript

https://fluidcad.io/
104•maouida•6h ago•20 comments

Nowhere is safe

https://steveblank.com/2026/04/09/nowhere-is-safe/
116•sblank•5h ago•153 comments

PGLite Evangelism

https://substack.com/home/post/p-193415720
19•surprisetalk•1d ago•1 comments

The Bra-and-Girdle Maker That Fashioned the Impossible for NASA

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bra-and-girdle-maker-that-fashioned-the-impossible-for-nasa/
26•sohkamyung•1d ago•2 comments

Vinyl Cache and Varnish Cache

https://vinyl-cache.org/organization/on_vinyl_cache_and_varnish_cache.html
24•Foxboron•2d ago•2 comments

A compelling title that is cryptic enough to get you to take action on it

https://ericwbailey.website/published/a-compelling-title-that-is-cryptic-enough-to-get-you-to-tak...
160•mooreds•8h ago•84 comments

Bild AI (YC W25) Is Hiring a Founding Product Engineer

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/bild-ai/jobs/dDMaxVN-founding-product-engineer
1•rooppal•8h ago

Intel 486 CPU announced April 10, 1989

https://dfarq.homeip.net/intel-486-cpu-announced-april-10-1989/
136•jnord•13h ago•137 comments

Clojure on Fennel Part One: Persistent Data Structures

https://andreyor.st/posts/2026-04-07-clojure-on-fennel-part-one-persistent-data-structures/
129•roxolotl•3d ago•10 comments

OpenClaw’s memory is unreliable, and you don’t know when it will break

https://blog.nishantsoni.com/p/ive-seen-a-thousand-openclaw-deploys
57•sonink•6h ago•79 comments

Show HN: Eve – Managed OpenClaw for work

https://eve.new/login
28•zachdive•7h ago•24 comments

You can't trust macOS Privacy and Security settings

https://eclecticlight.co/2026/04/10/why-you-cant-trust-privacy-security/
429•zdw•9h ago•149 comments

Show HN: A WYSIWYG word processor in Python

https://codeberg.org/chrisecker/miniword
62•chrisecker•6h ago•26 comments

Simulating a 2D Quadcopter from Scratch

https://mrandri19.github.io/2026/04/03/2d-quadcopter-simulation.html
19•daww•2d ago•8 comments
Open in hackernews

Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

https://blog.samaltman.com/2279512
146•jack_hanford•2h ago

Comments

jazz9k•2h ago
AI is great. But it seems like those that wield its power only do so to create massive unemployment and benefits to the top 1%.
rdevilla•2h ago
> Now I am awake in the middle of the night and pissed, and thinking that I have underestimated the power of words and narratives.

I am glad you feel my pain, Mr. Altman.

angoragoats•2h ago
I wonder if this is the first time in recent history (or ever?) that he has felt this way. Must be nice.
amarant•1h ago
Do you frequently get Molotov cocktails thrown at your house?

I must admit, I've been spared the experience, and I was under the impression that was true for most people!

angoragoats•1h ago
> Do you frequently get Molotov cocktails thrown at your house?

Luckily, no. Do you frequently wade into comment threads shitting on others’ statements of their lived experiences?

rAHSg16•1h ago
Yes, very ironic. OpenAI was declared commercial through words and narratives, AI itself is hyped up with words and narratives. His Trump sycophancy are words and narratives. And that is just the start.

It isn't just irony---It's lack of self awareness! (sorry for increasing the pain that Altman et al. inflict on us.)

angoragoats•2h ago
To be clear, I don’t want anyone’s house to get firebombed by any means. But the “I’m just a humble guy making mistakes and trying the best I can” attitude of this article strikes me as extremely inauthentic based on everything I know about the guy.
coldtea•2h ago
"Our product can destroy humanity, and it's not some crank telling you this, it's the company and CEO making it themselves, but we'll continue to make it anyway, so suck it up" but also "I'm just a humble guy, why can't we all live in peace?"
carefree-bob•1h ago
Everything about Altman makes me think "scammer". If he has one super-power, it is to convince people of his own importance.

OpenAi doesn't have much time left before they are shuffled off into bankruptcy, and they certainly aren't ruling the fate of man or anything like that. It's like the CEO of Enron claiming to hold the key to the future of mankind's energy resources, and people writing ponderous articles about it and debating whether Ken Lay will be a benevolent dictator or not.

tyre•1h ago
The post itself is authentic in that it's a set narrative for this moment. When you see the world as Sam does, this event is a specific opportunity to humanize him. Through that lens, the humility is both performative (it is!) and necessary. To be truthful would be inauthentic.

The sympathy is meant to give time and slack to accumulate power. One of the largest impediments to OpenAI right now is that people don't trust them, more and more people don't trust Sam, and their commitments are starting to not pan out (e.g. cancelling of Stargate UK, dropped product lines, etc.)

People should not read a post like this as, "how does this make me feel? how might I respond in his situation?", but rather, as he does, "how can I use this?"

richardlblair•22m ago
Hes attempting to humanize himself in hopes his family home where his child lives isn't firebombed. Again.

Very reasonable response when you take a step back.

pesus•2h ago
> The world deserves huge amounts of AI and we must figure out how to make it happen.

> It will not all go well. The fear and anxiety about AI is justified; we are in the process of witnessing the largest change to society in a long time, and perhaps ever.

Boy, he really just encouraged the world to keep turning against him. This is so transparently disingenuous. I guess he has no choice if he doesn't want to give up his wealth and power, but putting statements like these out are only going to further fuel anti-AI sentiment.

I do think it's funny he opened this with an allegedly real picture of a baby, though. It may very well be real, but why would anyone take his word for that, especially those who already don't trust him?

verdverm•2h ago
The Epstein regime all seem really manic and probably fearing the French bourgeoisie treatment. They tried to get Luigi on "terrorism" charges
rootusrootus•1h ago
> They tried to get Luigi on "terrorism" charges

That's about the least controversial thing I've heard recently. Luigi murdered a guy specifically because he was a health insurance CEO. Not because of something he did in particular, but because of the role he assumed. Terrorizing other CEOs is precisely what he intended to do. It is why there are so many Luigi fans, it is what they want too.

verdverm•1h ago
Worth noting the legal system did not find it to reach the requirements for terrorism.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/luigi-mangione-due-in-co...

My understanding is that it was personal

ben_w•1h ago
So all these things he's saying are going to leave people scared and afraid, on that we agree. What's the disingenuous part here?

Don't get me wrong: others talk of a pattern of dishonesty, or that he's too eager to please*, and I'm willing to trust them on this because I found out with Musk that I don't spot this soon enough.

But what, specifically, do you see? What am I blind to?

* given how ChatGPT is a people-pleaser and has him around, Claude philosophically muses about if its subjective experience is or is not like a humans' and has Amanda Askell, and that Grok is like it is and has Musk, I think the default personalities of these models AI are influenced by their owner's leadership teams

pesus•1h ago
He's pretending to care about the negative effects AI will have on society at large, but goes on to say it's necessary and "must" happen. If he actually cared, he wouldn't continue down that path. He also wouldn't be lobbying the DoD for contracts to use his AI to help kill people.
sassymuffinz•2h ago
“I’m just trying to make the world a better place for my child by ensuring millions won’t be able to afford to feed their children.”
mc7alazoun•2h ago
Daamn, you were too fast to share the story haha.
LunaSea•2h ago
Unserious answer about a very serious event.

I don't believe a word of Sam's "I believe" section.

mixtureoftakes•1h ago
unpopular opinion but i think it's written quite well
kspacewalk2•1h ago
Perhaps by ChatGPT
0x3f•1h ago
It seems a bit stilted to be LLM'd.
kcatskcolbdi•1h ago
Yes, clearly not written with his own product.
pesus•1h ago
If that's the case, why doesn't he trust his own product enough to write this?
alpaca128•29m ago
He doesn't trust it for anything else either as far as I can tell. In an interview he's boasted about how he uses a paper notebook for everything all day.
ryan_n•1h ago
I don't think that's unpopular, it is pretty well written. But the "I believe" section is extraordinarily hard to believe given Altman's history.

> Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people

> We have to get safety right

> AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated

None of these statements, IMO, reflect his actions over the past 5 years.

> we urgently need a society-wide response to be resilient to new threats. This includes things like new policy to help navigate through a difficult economic transition in order to get to a much better future

I agree with this, but there is a near 0% chance of that happening anytime soon in the US. I think he probably is aware of this.

Just my opinion, but it comes off as very insincere.

To be clear, what happened is still awful and there's absolutely no justification for it.

SOLAR_FIELDS•1h ago
Ha, I was giving an AI bootcamp to a room full of people and someone asked me my opinion of Altman. I hesitated for a second and replied that I would not trust Altman further than I could throw a rock about anything.

If Graham says this guy will always stop at nothing to get whatever he wants, which I absolutely believe, then why would you trust anything that comes out of a person like that’s mouth?

dakolli•1h ago
Who tf is dumb enough to pay for an AI bootcamp, genuinely curious. If you're selling AI bootcamps, or whoever is, they are just as much a scam artist as Sam.
moralestapia•1h ago
Who tf is dumb enough to not do it, though?

If I was non-tech and owned a business, and someone (reputable) offers to teach me everything I need to get up to date with the most revolutionary technology of the decade (perhaps century?) for like ... 500 dollars? Why not?

dakolli•1h ago
Its neural network autocomplete that helps you write text a little faster, chill with "the most revolutionary technology of the last decade/century" talk. You're offending a lot of experts in way more important areas of research.
moralestapia•1h ago
>write text a little faster

You might actually need to attend an AI bootcamp. This is not 2022's GPT, AI can deliver plenty of value for a business owner these days.

xvector•40m ago
You're cooked if this is actually how you see AI in 2026.
hungryhobbit•1h ago
Yeah, people learning new technology is terrible. /s
probably_wrong•1h ago
10 hours ago a post made the frontpage here [0] about how OpenAI is backing a law that "would limit liability for AI-enabled mass deaths or financial disasters". Now he's here saying he believes that "working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people, and advancing science and technology are moral obligations for [him]".

I know he doesn't believe a word of what he wrote in that post except, perhaps, that he cannot sleep and is pissed. I know I should be used to people openly lying with no consequence, but it still amazes me a bit.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47717587

SpicyLemonZest•1h ago
I think it's good for CEOs of powerful companies to make statements about how they don't want too much personal power and it's important to ensure everyone does well, even and perhaps especially if there's reason to suspect they don't believe it. Saying it doesn't solve the problem, but it helps create a permission structure for the rest of us to get it to actually happen.
tyre•1h ago
The reason he's saying that is because he doesn't want you to create that structure. He wants you to not create the laws or checks & balances on him because you "trust that he doesn't really want the power".

It has worked for him, repeatedly.

SpicyLemonZest•1h ago
No, I don't think that's accurate. Altman has repeatedly and loudly demanded for these to be created, including a new detailed policy proposal just this month (https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/561e7512-253e-424b-9734-ef4098440...).
tyre•1h ago
OpenAI has also repeatedly and quietly lobbied against them.

You linked a vague PDF whose promised actions are:

> To help sustain momentum, OpenAI is: (1) welcoming and organizing feedback through newindustrialpolicy@openai.com; (2) establishing a pilot program of fellowships and focused research grants of up to $100,000 and up to $1 million in API credits for work that builds on these and related policy ideas; and (3) convening discussions at our new OpenAI Workshop opening in May in Washington, DC.

Welcoming and organizing feedback!

A pilot!

Convening discussions!

This "commitment" pales in comparison to the money they've spent lobbying against specific regulation that cedes power.

Please don't fall for this stuff.

0xy•43m ago
Incendiary and false headline aside, no sane person would suggest that a hardware store that sold an axe that was used by an axe murderer should be held liable unless that store knew what was about to unfold.

Unless AI companies knowingly participate in murder plots, they should not be liable.

Is Microsoft liable for providing Notepad, a product which can be used to write detailed and specific mass murder plots?

Is Toyota liable for selling someone a car that is later used for vehicular manslaughter?

Liability should depend on your participation in the event, of course. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to buy an axe, or a car, or use the internet at all. A closer analogy is ISPs not being liable for copyright infringement done by users, and subsequently not being required to police such activity for rights holders.

probably_wrong•25m ago
> Incendiary and false headline aside

The text of the bill literally starts with "Creates the A.I. Safety Act. Provides that a developer of a frontier AI model shall not be held liable for critical harms caused by the frontier model if (conditions)", and defines "critical harms" as "death or serious injury of 100 or more people or at least $1,000,000,000 of damages". The headline is, IMO, shockingly accurate.

> Is Toyota liable for selling someone a car that is later used for vehicular manslaughter?

No, but they are liable for selling a car with defective brakes, even if they don't know that the brakes are defective. And if the ex-Monsanto has to pay millions in compensation for causing cancer with a product that they tested to hell and back, then I don't see how that's different when the one causing cancer is an AI just because the developers pinky swear that it's safe.

bedroom_jabroni•2h ago
Did Claude Mythos escape containment?
loloquwowndueo•2h ago
“I couldn’t find vulnerabilities in Sam’s devices so I contracted a rando over the internet to Molotov his house” sounds fairly implausible :)
verdverm•1h ago
This is actually happening without the Ai

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2026/04/07/the-stra...

bedroom_jabroni•1h ago
Must've been one rare instance of AI creating jobs
psiisim•2h ago
What a tone deaf response. Sounds like he learned nothing at all from this.
0x3f•1h ago
From someone Molotoving his house? What do you think he should have learned from that?
TurdF3rguson•1h ago
That his security is inadequate.
hyeonwho5•2h ago
Firebombing homes is completely uncivilized, but I'm not going to believe a single public word from Altman about anything. He's a lying sociopath and will say whatever gets himself ahead.
ambicapter•1h ago
At this point it's probably far more productive to think of what he's saying as the necessary means he uses to make you believe what he wants you to believe. From that point you can work backwards and try to understand what he wants you to believe.
richardlblair•20m ago
Using an article about a home housing a child being firebombed to platform your irrelevant opinions about the victim is a bad look.
surround•2h ago
> There was an incendiary article about me a few days ago. Someone said to me yesterday they thought it was coming at a time of great anxiety about AI and that it made things more dangerous for me.

For context his blog post seems to be a response to this deep-dive New Yorker article:

"Sam Altman May Control Our Future—Can He Be Trusted?"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47659135

eddyfromtheblok•1h ago
Ronan Farrow, one of the journalists who worked on this article, talked to Katie Couric on her YouTube channel about this. They worked on this across ~18 months. I thought this interview was illuminating.
AlexCoventry•49m ago
Yes, it was good. It seems clear that Farrow and his co-author approached it in a methodical, fair-minded way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_sB1Hl0oM

slater-•39m ago
Turns out the article was not in fact incendiary.
stavros•21m ago
Yeah, it's one thing to write an incendiary article, it's a very different thing to write an objective article about someone who will say anything to get what they want.
georgemcbay•36m ago
He has to be talking about the New Yorker article, which wasn't incendiary at all. If anything, it seemed fully neutral to me, reporting what they could justify as facts but going out of their way to not specifically paint him or anyone else in a negative light beyond a listing of events that they presumably have solid sourcing on (if not, sue them; if so, stfu).

If a neutral look at your actions seems incendiary to you, maybe you need to rethink your own life and actions.

It should go without saying I don't think people should be attempting to light other people's houses on fire regardless of how distasteful they find those people.

davesque•27m ago
Wouldn't it be more correct to call the article "critical" and not "incendiary"? I looked it over and I don't remember seeing any calls to violence. Altman needs to remember that he holds an incredible amount of power in this moment. He and other current AI tech leaders are effectively sitting on the equivalent of a technological nuclear bomb. Anyone in their right mind would find that threatening.
h14h•21m ago
"Critical" even feels strong. The article was essentially a collection of statements others have made about Sam.
davesque•17m ago
Right, but the picture those statements painted collectively was not flattering. And that was certainly intended by the authors. Thus, critical, but not at all "incendiary."
zb3•2h ago
So there's one photo. Of one family. Now what about millions of photos of all the other families possibly affected by him? That doesn't have power?

It's like "hey you can say mean things about me but don't attack my family while I attack yours". Not that this is directed at him personally, but it's just this mindset of wealthy people..

tuckerman•1h ago
I think he's just trying to remind people that someone can both be a CEO of a powerful company you might disagree with/hate as well as a real human with a husband and child and that trying to set fire to his house could kill those people.

I personally wouldn't go as far as to say the Farrow article caused this but it seems fair game to respond to an article that had an over the top cover image of an animated Sam Altan picking and choosing faces with a photo reminding people he's human like everyone else.

joecool1029•1h ago
> Now what about millions of photos of all the other families possibly affected by him?

His name allegedly isn't even clear on his own! Ongoing lawsuit brought by his sister. (Amended as recently as a week ago and discussed in a flagged submission here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47640048 ).

mattsoldo•1h ago
It's never OK to physically attack someone like this. Full stop.

Separately; Sam's belief that "AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated." rings incredibly hollow. OpenAI has abandoned its open source roots. It is concentrating wealth - and thus power - into fewer hands. Not more.

nslsm•1h ago
> It's never OK to physically attack someone like this. Full stop.

I agree. The French Revolution was really, really mean.

tempestn•1h ago
Are you familiar with the details of the French Revolution? Some of the eventual outcomes were indeed positive, but a lot of what actually went on was pretty horrific.
kelseyfrog•1h ago
At the same time considering the people participating, there wasn't a way out of the problems that didn't involve violence. Different outcomes would require different choices that require different people.
mjamesaustin•1h ago
It was horrific. Revolutions tend to be. Yet our institutions continue consolidating money and power in fewer and fewer hands. If that doesn't stop, we'll be headed there again. It will probably be even worse this time.
happytoexplain•1h ago
A lot of what happened during the French revolution was horrific... This is such a bewildering sentence in this context. Yes, killing the rulers is horrific. Revolutions are horrific. Wars are horrific. It seems irrelevant to what the parent is (sarcastically) saying.
GeoAtreides•31m ago
what are you arguing? that people should not violently overthrow their corrupt leaders? that the french should've let the Ancient Regime entrench and continue? That the serfs (slaves) in tsarist Russia should've stayed put and not revolt against the corrupt and incompetent Nicholas II? Or that the Hungarians and Czechoslovaks not revolt against the totalitarian regimes propped by the Russians? Should've the Romanians in 1989 stayed at home, in cold and hunger, and let Ceausescu regime continue to cruelly oppress them?
dakolli•1h ago
AGI will be democratized when its discovered.... just right after AWS, Microsoft and Oracle finish their 6 month beta test.
burnte•1h ago
Agreed. Sam's full of crap and the way we tackle that is with conversations, not violence. He deserves to grow old like anyone else, violence isn't an answer.
Arodex•1h ago
Everyone else deserves to grow old, too...
tyre•1h ago
It's pretty amazing to observe people experience the past ten years in American history and continue to think that we can out-talk the bad people in the world.

Michelle Obama's, "When they go low, we go high", is some of the stupidest political advice and a generation has lost so much because of it. (The generation before got West Winged into believing the same thing.)

When you look to the right, you have a stolen election in 2000, a stolen supreme court seat, an attempted coup, and relentless winning despite it.

lostlogin•20m ago
This may come right when Americans see themselves backsliding relative to other power blocks, and allies turning away. It’s started.

But it seems a distant hope at best.

teachrdan•1h ago
> the way we tackle that is with conversations, not violence

I think the breakdown here is that conversation seems to have no power. To only be a bit hyperbolic, the only language with power is money -- or violence. To the extent that ordinary people cannot make change with "conversation" (which I interpret here to mean dialog within society, including with lawmakers), they feel compelled to use violence instead.

A non-rhetorical question: What recourse to non-billionaires have when conversation has less and less power, while money has more and more, and those with money are making much more money?

m4x•1h ago
There's still a meaningful difference between violence wielded by a single individual who feels angry or unheard, and violence wielded by a large representative group who has invested genuine effort in conversation before collectively deciding violence is required.
happytoexplain•1h ago
They aren't mutually exclusive. Often the former and latter, in that order, are two parts of the same historical event.
m4x•1h ago
Yes, fully agree. Nonetheless, I suspect violence can be used more effectively and more minimally if it's considered and performed by a group rather than haphazardly by individuals. I recognise that's a very simplistic view.
llbbdd•12m ago
I think it's as realistic as it is simplistic. The State gets a monopoly on violence so that you can sue someone who wrongs you instead of killing them. When conversation and cash fail, violence is all that's left, and we concentrate that power in groups of people tasked with deciding when the alternatives have failed. It doesn't always work but it's a better alternative than the individualized bloodlust disappointingly endorsed elsewhere in this thread.
pesus•1h ago
He isn't going to suddenly grow a conscience from a riveting, intellectually stimulating conversation.
AlexCoventry•52m ago
I don't condone violence, but the contract he's signed with the US military is a credible threat to everyone in the US. OpenAI will now certainly be called on to assist in domestic mass surveillance, under threat of the kind of severe penalties Anthropic has faced. So why did he agree to that contract, unless he's will to provide that assistance? So it's gone well beyond conversation, though not to a point where violence is appropriate. Boycotts and hostility are definitely appropriate at this point IMO, though.
tailscaler2026•1h ago
Sam eagerly pursued DoD contracts to weaponize AI. And then lobbied for legislation to ensure OpenAI cannot be held accountable if people are killed due to their systems.
pesus•1h ago
I find it interesting that Altman's fans seem to keep skipping past this fact. I'd love to hear their defense as to why one person potentially being responsible for hundreds or thousands of deaths is acceptable, but attacking that one person isn't. If violence is never the answer, they should be condemning Altman with even more vigor.
AlexCoventry•57m ago
Yeah, it's kind of terrifying, how this incident seems to have faded from people's memories.
IMTDb•39m ago
> why one person potentially being responsible for hundreds or thousands of deaths is acceptable

I am not sure who exactly is that one person ? Is it Altman, who is according to many people not that knowledgeable in AI in the first place; the scientist who found a breakthrough (who is it ?); is it the president of the United States who is greenlighting the strikes; the general who is choosing the target (based on AI suggestions); the missile designer; the manufacturer; the pilot who flew the plane ?

I get the point of concentrating power in fewer hands, but the whole "all the problems of this world are caused by an extremely narrow set of individuals" always irks me. Going as far as saying there is just one is even mor ludicrous.

maest•26m ago
Accountability sinks are good value and wealthy people always make sure they have enough of them
idiotsecant•23m ago
Ah the old 'everyone is responsible so nobody is responsible' canard.

I will give you a helpful rule of thumb: when in doubt the guy with a bank account larger than the total lifetime income of hundreds of thousands of people is probably the one to blame.

jrflowers•13m ago
The comment you are responding to made a pretty clear case for the person in charge of a company being responsible for the outcomes of the company’s actions. “Does the existence of more than one human mean that accountability can not exist?” would look pretty cool on a black light poster of an alien eating mushrooms though
GMoromisato•36m ago
The entire purpose of government is to have a monopoly on violence. Democracies give their government the power to decide when and against whom to deploy violence.

There is a real difference between giving a democratic government the tools to kill people vs attempting to kill people yourself. If you don’t believe this then you don’t believe in democracy.

pesus•30m ago
I'm not sure the next batch of schoolgirls getting bombed will particularly care whether the choice was made "democratically" or not.

I also won't particularly care about the distinction when AI is inevitably used to enact violence on the US population.

shakna•27m ago
> The entire purpose of government is to have a monopoly on violence.

... Isn't that rather against the spirit of the US' constitution? I can see it being a thought with other nations, but not this particular one.

> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Which kinda follows the spirit of English Common Law:

> The ... last auxiliary right of the subject ... is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is ... declared by ... statute, and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression. - Sir William Blackstone

A "monopoly on violence" is exactly the thing our laws are supposed to protect us against. Because if a state has that, then they have a monopoly against all rights, because they alone can employ violence to curb those who do not subscribe to the state's ideology.

I'm pretty much a pacifist. I _like_ Australia's gun laws. But, a government's purpose is to protect their people. They are to be representative - or to be replaced. If they leave no other choice for that, then violence is the only answer left.

lostlogin•23m ago
> There is a real difference between giving a democratic government the tools to kill people vs attempting to kill people yourself. If you don’t believe this then you don’t believe in democracy.

Is this what we just saw with America attacking Iran?

seizethecheese•35m ago
Military power and attacks on private individuals are different things. It's perfectly consistent to be against attacks on private individuals while being in favor of building military weapons.
smallmancontrov•1h ago
If only that sentiment was reciprocal!

When the job losses hit in earnest and the vague handwaving about making it right all inevitably turns out to be hollow, those on top will be exceedingly comfortable using violence to keep the underclass in line. It has happened before and it will happen again.

Ms-J•43m ago
Exactly.

People don't need to act like a slave.

Make your own decisions in life.

topato•35m ago
The ‘graduation day massacre of 2047’, ycombinator’s greatest tragedy…. The ceremony was interrupted by ‘Anti-AI’ + ‘Pro-Trump/Palestine Gaza Hotel & Casino’ protesters (who all refused to wear their anti COVID-47 plastic vampire teeth) and, with good cause, were massacred by the Cyber-Hot-Pinkertons

I forgot what I was typing this in response to, so I’m just going to stop and post lol

hungryhobbit•1h ago
I categorically reject that assertion. Two simple examples: 1) when you see someone assaulting someone else, it's absolutely ok to attack them, and 2) the American revolution!

It's like that old joke:

A man offers a young woman $1,000,000 to sleep with him for one night.

“For a million dollars? Sure, I’ll sleep with you.”

He smiles at her, “How about $50, then?”

“How dare you! I’m not a whore!”

“Look, lady, we’ve already agreed what you are, now we’re just negotiating the price.”

Similarly in this case, you can't make up absolutes and assert the're true, while ignoring that the real world is more complicated. And once you do realize the world is complicated, you realize there aren't absolutes: everyone is a prostitute, terrorist, or whatever other bad label you want to throw at them ... it's just a matter of degree.

So no, it's not always wrong to physically attack someone like this. You can debate specifically whether Altman has committed enough violence himself to justify violence against him: that's something two people can reasonably disagree on. But you can't just say "violence bad" like its some great pearl of wisdom, while ignoring that violence has in fact been good many times throughout history.

etchalon•1h ago
It's always OK to punch a Nazi.
suby•15m ago
One problem with that thought process is that the label nazi gets thrown around and misused to the point where it becomes meaningless. I've seen threads on tech forums like lobste.rs where prominent people in the industry like DHH are called nazi's. We should recognize that labels are often coupled with hyperbole. We should not be advocating for violence.
zinodaur•1h ago
Is it okay to profit off of a machine that kills innocent people? Would it be immoral to attack the builder of that machine, if it stopped the operation of the machine?
imiric•58m ago
I'm on the skeptic side of "AI" and find this entire industry obnoxious, but your argument doesn't hold any water.

Technology that can be used to kill innocent people is all around us. Would it be moral to attack knife manufacturers? Attacking one won't make the technology disappear. It has been invented, so we have to live with it.

Also, it's a stretch to say that "AI" "kills innocent people". In the hands of malicious people it can certainly do harm, but even in extreme cases, "AI" can currently only be used very indirectly to actually kill someone.

Technology itself is inert. What humans do with technology should be regulated.

IMO the fabricated concern around this tech is just part of the hype cycle. There's nothing inherently dangerous about a probabilistic pattern generator. We haven't actually invented artificial intelligence, despite of how it's marketed. What we do need to focus on is educating people to better understand this tech and use it safely, on restricting access to it so that we can mitigate abuse and avoid flooding our communication channels with garbage, and on better detection and mitigation technology to flag and filter it when it is abused. Everything else is marketing hype and isn't worth paying attention to.

Barrin92•27m ago
>Would it be moral to attack knife manufacturers?

if they're selling the knives knowingly to a knife-murderer, it might be worth discussing.

Sam Altman is not, although he portrays himself that way, some geeky guy without power who just builds products, he's the guy who makes the decision to supply this tech directly to the US government who is on the record about using it for military operations. And you're right on the last point. Sure the 20 year old guy who threw a molotov cocktail at Sam's house is, I'm going to assume for now given the topic Sam chose for the piece, an anti-tech guy.

But assume for a second you had your family wiped out in a bombing run because Pete Hegseth attempted to prompt himself to victory with the statistical lottery machine. If the CEO knew this and enabled it to add another zero to his bank account, not so sure about the ethics of that one.

lostlogin•17m ago
> Would it be moral to attack knife manufacturers?

Apply this to guns.

Then look how this works in the US. You could, but then a law was made to protect gun manufacturers, The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

AI will get this treatment I’m sure.

gnuvince•1h ago
> Separately; Sam's belief that "AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated." rings incredibly hollow. OpenAI has abandoned its open source roots. It is concentrating wealth - and thus power - into fewer hands. Not more.

We should call it what it really is: oligapolization of intellectual work. The capital barrier to enter this market is too high and there can be no credible open source option to prevent a handful of companies from controlling a monster share of intellectual work in the short and medium term. Yet our profession just keeps rushing head first into this one-way door.

Waterluvian•1h ago
The thing about the rich is that they have access to sufficient levels of abstraction that they can commit terrible, disproportionate violence without it looking that way. And then fools who crave the simplistic safe comfort of moral absolutes come to their aid.

Throwing a petrol bomb at a building with children inside is about as evil as murdering 150 students at an all-girls school. I'm obviously not defending that.

lostlogin•30m ago
> Throwing a petrol bomb at a building with children inside is about as evil as murdering 150 students at an all-girls school. I'm obviously not defending that.

Really? I don’t know how many were in his house but at most it’s attempted murder of a few versus killing 150.

I see a difference.

US law sees a difference too. The person that threw the firebomb will get the full weight of the law if they are caught, and spent an awfully long time in prison.

Those that killed the school girls will never face punishment.

rootusrootus•23m ago
If you want to draw that distinction, then don't you need to account for intent? I don't think the USG intended to bomb a school. The guy throwing a Molotov cocktail has even less claim to it being an accident.
lostlogin•15m ago
It would be manslaughter where I am, 150 counts.

But the idea that the US cares is laughable.

d_silin•1h ago
Violence is language that needs no translation. Everyone across the world, every culture, every country, every social group - from elites to homeless can converse in it using the same vocabulary.

It is useful to have some degree of mastery in this discipline. Sometimes it is the only language that can deliver the important message to an unwilling listener.

ambicapter•1h ago
He's saying that just so he can use if another company gets bigger than OpenAI ("you can't have all the power"). If OpenAI were the top dog by a large margin, you wouldn't hear him say a peep about this (as was demonstrated by his actions with the charter).
dakolli•1h ago
Knowing Sam, this entire event was fabricated or done at his behest.
Ms-J•28m ago
His face screams bullshit. If I ever need to laugh, I look at people like him or Elon.
lores•1h ago
I've never understood this specific taboo against physical violence. Firing a thousand people or stealing their wages, ruining their life and their families', passing unjust laws that threaten the well-being and happiness of a million, that's ok! A punch in the nose, that's not ok!

There are far worse things than physical violence against one person, and with the end of the rule of law there isn't any other recourse. The one value that is common across all cultures is that the wicked must be punished for their wickedness; expect to see violence against oligarchs and CEOs spread like fire.

SpicyLemonZest•1h ago
The idea that firing you or stealing your wages is the worst a CEO can do to you is itself a product of the taboo against physical violence. There are a number of famous incidents from the late 1800s and early 1900s, when the taboo was weaker, of CEOs sending private armies to shoot inconvenient labor movements. It's not an equilibrium you should defect from lightly.
lores•1h ago
A CEO can choose physical, mental, legal or financial violence against the common man. The common man only has the choice of physical violence. Without it he is impotent.
xvector•46m ago
This mindset trivializes the immense achievements of "the common man" over the course of millennia.
xvector•47m ago
We'd have never progressed as a species with your mentality. Change is painful and it's part and parcel of progress.

Humans would be suffering far more today if we weren't willing to accept short term pains for progress.

lores•41m ago
Change and progress like the people of France deciding they had enough of injustice and nobles' impunity, then? A little short-term pain for social progress? We agree.
xvector•8m ago
Look where France is now. Can't afford their own retirement.
kelnos•37m ago
That sounds suspiciously like a "ends justify the means" argument.

It's easy to say we need to be willing to accept short term pains when it's someone else who has to bear the brunt of them.

pesus•26m ago
Are you willing to stand by this argument and give up your career?
Teever•1h ago
That's not true.

As a defense contractor Altman is a legitimate target for a country that the US has attacked like Iran.

The US is engaging in military action against many countries and has threatened to annex or invade allies.

In that context Altman is 100% a legitimate target to those whose sovereignty is threatened and whose people are being killed.

minimaxir•1h ago
I didn't think Hacker News needed an explicit "calls for violence are bad" guideline but the comments here have shown otherwise.
Teever•45m ago
Do you feel the same way about comments that support the US military action in Iran? Why or why not?
johnisgood•37m ago
It is unnecessary, and it was an obvious offense, not defense. Of course it is "bad". We (Trump) need(s) to stop creating wars and fucking up the economy, while killing others. It is bad all the way down.
stavros•30m ago
Are calls for violence bad when you're calling for throwing a molotov cocktail at a child? At an adult? At a serial killer? At someone who's about to shoot you unprovoked? At someone who murdered your family? At someone who's about to?

If you said "yes" to all of the above, I'd love to know your reasoning.

lostlogin•28m ago
The general tone here is that freedom of speech is absolute and nothing should curtail that.

Not my personal view.

HeavyStorm•1h ago
Like this, for sure not. And Sam has not, even with that article, done anything to warrant violence.
quantified•58m ago
If Sam disperses his power, we can believe him. So long as he's just concentrating wealth and power, he's just another tech bro.
mememememememo•50m ago
"Like this" is doing some serious work in that statement!
truncate•48m ago
>> It will not all go well. The fear and anxiety about AI is justified; we are in the process of witnessing the largest change to society in a long time, and perhaps ever. We have to get safety right, which is not just about aligning a model

The question is what are they doing about "getting safety right" and are they doing enough. To me it seems like all the focus is on hyper growth, maximum adaptation and safety is just afterthought. I understand its competitive market, and everyone is doing it, but its just hollow words. Industries that cares about safety often tend to slow down.

intrasight•17m ago
I told my GF over dinner tonight that historians in 1000 years will look back to Nov 2023 as a pivotal fork where humans lost.

Without missing a beat, she said " If humans loss was that complete, there would be no historians.

I responded that I never said they were human historians.

Noaidi•44m ago
‘Working towards prosperity for everyone’ was extremely hollow as well. If he believed this, he would be running his company as a cooperative and not as a for-profit company.
an0malous•34m ago
Well said, I condemn the violence as well. I had to stop at that point too though, it's so blatantly disingenuous and hypocritical.
matheusmoreira•33m ago
Can't say I feel sorry for the guy. Anyone who actually believes his platitudes about "democratizing" AI is far too naive. If he really believed that, he'd make a torrent out of ChatGPT's weights and upload it to the pirate bay.

The fact of the matter is these AI CEOs are actively trying to economically disenfranchise 99% of the human race. The ultimate corollary of capitalism is that people who aren't economically productive need not be kept alive any longer. Unproductive people are nothing but cost, better to just let them die. A future where the richest classes can turn the underclasses into soylent is now very much within the realm of possibility.

If this doesn't radicalize people into actual violence, I simply have no idea what will. "Attacking someone is wrong" is a completely meaningless statement to make to someone who believes society as we know it today is going to be destroyed. Honestly, I can't even blame them.

avs733•30m ago
If we are going to say violence isn’t okay then it is important that we be clear about the boundaries of what we define as violence.

Theft is a nice analogy here. The default model of theft is property crime but the largest type of theft is wage theft.

If we fret about violence done against individuals but not violence against groups our attention is going to end up steered in a narrow direction.

lostlogin•26m ago
> It's never OK to physically attack someone like this.

I broadly agree. But… there are some who have lived who made the world a worse place. Who gets to decide? Trump has done a bit of this Sort of deciding and it hasn’t gone great so far and there is no sign that it’s actually helped.

notyourwork•21m ago
> OpenAI has abandoned its open source roots.

It was only a matter of time. The font on the dollar sign kept increasing, eventually selfish humans will always crack. Keeping it open had to be instilled with it becoming a public utility. Private companies don't do altruistic things unless they benefit.

grafmax•11m ago
An oligarch who promotes “democracy”. Is trying to cynically ingratiate himself, or is he really that deaf to the irony?
Arodex•1h ago
Ah, the Elon manoeuvre: trying to make would-be assassins hesitate by using your own child as a shield.
TurdF3rguson•1h ago
It's like a baby on board bumper sticker. But for your house.
Vaslo•1h ago
Yeah it’s like they don’t want their children murdered, crazy
megaman821•1h ago
Gross man, get help. Living with your family isn't using them as a sheild.
happytoexplain•1h ago
Historically, was it always so common for powerful or famous people to seem to purposefully garner hatred like he, and others, have been for the past decade? To speak in a petty, self-important, "trolling" manner, to a very broad audience? To embrace traits that are intrinsically negative? Or are we living in a rare time?
hahahacorn•1h ago
Can you explain the petty, self important, trolling manner? Which traits are intrinsically negative?

Genuine Q

happytoexplain•1h ago
Of Altman, Trump et al, Elon, the Nvidia guy, etc? Or am I not understanding the question?
hahahacorn•43m ago
Of Altman in this blog. Put another way I didn’t read those traits from this post and I’m curious what I’m missing.
adestefan•1h ago
New England colonists had a habit of ransacking and burning down the houses of government officials throughout the 1760s and during the Revolutionary War. Got bad enough that most did not sleep in their government housing.
techblueberry•16m ago
We are in a fact still in the tail end of a uniquely measured and peaceful time.
zoklet-enjoyer•1h ago
TIL Sam Altman is gay
arduanika•33m ago
https://xkcd.com/1053/
brailsafe•1h ago
I can't help but be reminded of last year, when our landlords (chill boomers) sold the house my girlfriend and I were renting the basement of (to presumably rich asshole millenials). The demographic doesn't really matter, but the old landlords kept us in us in the loop throughout the process, we knew as much as we could going into the new year. Apparently the new buyers wanted to keep us as tenants. Day 2 of them taking possession, the man came down with his innocent toddler and introduced themselves. He seemed friendly enough, and on Day 3 he came down in the middle of the day and handed me eviction notice papers.

I didn't firebomb his house, but I can't say I definitely didn't want to shit on his doorstep.

kelseyfrog•1h ago
No one deserves to be attacked.

I also believe that there will be more casualties in the AI Wars. We should be prepared for that. Capitalism, AI, and human life are mutually incompatible and I'm still not sure which two will survive the conflict.

TurdF3rguson•1h ago
Is the underground bunker in New Zealand ready yet? Better check on it.
raslah•1h ago
OpenAI will end up the hero of this whole AI saga. I actually believe what he wrote there. Anthropic just took a left turn when they chose to lock up mythos. That was a pivotal move that proved Anthropic’s mindset is dangerous. They just changed the trajectory of AI completely, for the worst.

OpenAI just needs to learn to manage products. They need to start finishing things rather than just shutting down projects without putting real effort into iterating on them to create viable business models. They are undisciplined. They’ve done this phony version of looking disciplined by shutting down Sora and nixing adult mode, but that’s superficial. The things they’re pivoting to are no more serious. They just sound serious. They gotta learn to create desire in consumers and design viral AI products. Like Apple. Consumer facing pop culture products. That’s the market that’s wide tf open. They can print if they get good at that.

klik99•1h ago
Genuinely surprised at the extreme comments against sama here. I don’t think he’s a good steward of the technology, but I don’t think violence is funny or justified. I also don’t think it’s justified for him to use it to say that a negative article about him is correlated to this event. Seems to imply that an “incendiary article” led to this and that criticism is tantamount to calls to violence. He drives the conversation with apocalyptic terms, and both investors and crazy people buy into it.
llbbdd•1h ago
Responses in this thread are embarrassing. Cat's out of the bag and needs a steward. People acting like Altman can just turn the machines off and this all stops are deluded.
amarant•1h ago
What the hell is up with this thread? It seems half the people here are saying they get molotoved on a weekly basis,Sam is a such and such for not taking it like a man, while the other half appears to mourn the lack of casualties?

Wtf is wrong with you people? Get off my lawn and go back to Reddit where you belong!

raslah•1h ago
The FOBO here smells.
happytoexplain•1h ago
You might as well say it's bad to be human.

What FOBO smells like, is what's happening.

copypaper•1h ago
In all seriousness, what is the game plan for society moving forward as AI takes more jobs? The government doesn't seem to care. The AI labs don't seem to care.

What happens when more and more people can't afford housing, kids, food, health insurance, etc.? Nothing more dangerous than a man who has no reason to live...

I don't advocate for violence, but I do foresee more headlines like this as things get worse.

smallmancontrov•1h ago
The game plan is the same as it was for globalization and previous rounds of automation: gaslight workers into thinking that they are the problem. Push all the taxes into the labor economy and all the money into the capital economy and use the inevitable budget shortfall to justify skimping on social services. That'll work until it doesn't, at which point the Ellison strategy will be employed: pay 10% of the poors to keep the other 90% in line.
dsa3a•1h ago
Out of curiosity... why do you think this?

I think this is complete madness. Im not someone that is in a job so I have the luxury to think critically about what is going on and... I just dont see it.

What I see is that LLMs will complement Labour and the excess returns of model producers will be very minimal (if at all any) due to the intense competition - keeping switching costs to a minimum (close to zero). This is before mentioning open source models which I expect to continue to improve.

There is no specialisation re. models at this moment in time so it is very likely to be the case.

OAI and Anthropic have to generate enough after-tax cash flows from operations to cover their reinvestment needs to continue going on. If they can't cover reinvestment then they will obviously lose as their offering will not be competitive.

There's no certainty they generate this amount of cash profits either. They still have a high chance of going bust, of course that gets lower - IF - they can keep ramping up revenues.

onemoresoop•39m ago
How about the economic impact of all the over investments in AI? It’ll all be dumped on us all Im afraid.
dsa3a•39m ago
Thats a separate issue. lets stick to the issue re. labour
onemoresoop•27m ago
Labor looks like it’s going to become more and more commoditized and AI will turbocharge all that.
Chance-Device•24m ago
I think what you’re describing is a more general race to the bottom where everyone loses, including the AI companies.

This won’t happen because the AI companies will collude to prevent it from happening, meaning they’ll drop out of that race leaving the rest of us to claim victory.

Generous of them, really.

dsa3a•21m ago
No Im not describing a race to the bottom. Im saying that its in Google's best interest to ensure Anthropic and OAI do not continue to operate as a going concern and generate enough cash flows to finance reinvestment - by providing a very competitive offering.

Price of tokens is one competitive-instrument for them to achieve that but not the only one - they offer a whole lot more to enterprises that OAI and Anthropic don't.

By doing so Anthropic and OAI's valuations go crashing into the ground along with future prospects of raising funding externally.

stale2002•51m ago
> what is the game plan for society moving forward as AI takes more jobs

> What happens when more and more people can't afford housing, kids, food, health insurance, etc.?

What about when the opposite of this all happens, society massively benefits, and unemployment rates stay about what they have always been?

Will people still be yelling about the doomsday of societial collapse that has failed to materialize every single time?

onemoresoop•34m ago
How would society benefit if all the benefit collects to the top of the pyramid? Same old trickle down? The technology isn’t inherently bad but if it comes with massive unemployment and creates social unrest while a few at the top profit… That’s what is what makes me uncomfortable.
akramachamarei•13m ago
I think, like other disruptive inventions of the past, there will be pain for many, but it will pass. Society will grow and adapt. There's some statistic somewhere I will paraphrase and/or botch that goes like: 90% of the jobs people have today didn't exist 50 years ago. I think no one can imagine what possible opportunities will manifest in the future. It's a lot easier to imagine everything that might go wrong because we evolved to see a sabertooth in the rustling leaves.
kbelder•1h ago
Sure, he's sleazy. Doesn't matter. It's not ok to firebomb jerks or saints. Rich or poor. It's both a criminal and an immoral act.
drowntoge•1h ago
I find myself resenting him and his ilk on a daily basis for what they did to the computing space which was once sacred to me with their profiteering. But nothing justifies violence, not even close. Simple as that.
BloondAndDoom•41m ago
This question doesn’t apply to Sam, but since you made a general statement, I’m trying to understand.

When it comes to people who openly incite or directly use violence. why do you think it’s unethical to attack someone like that? If one responsible from directly or indirectly killing hundreds, what’s the ethical argument to not use violence against that person?

Not trolling or anything I’ve been just thinking about this for a while and trying to understand what am I missing in this argument.

akramachamarei•19m ago
It's an interesting question. Here's my reductive, off-the-cuff take: violence is justified when defending oneself or another from imminent bodily harm, or even under threat of imminent, considerable property damage. When a threat is not imminent, or an action is past, we use the police and the courts, because we as a society–in the sense of subscribers of the US constitution or similar tracts–believe that it is better to have a judicial system and impartial officials determine whether it is worth depriving someone of their bodily liberty or taking their property, that is, jailing or fining. Taking some sort of extrajudicial action or applying corporal punishment (!) requires a much higher bar. How and when would one determine that the judicial system is so unreliable as to morally permit vigilantism? It requires a great deal of moral self-confidence to take matters into one's own hands.

I focus on the question of vigilantism because that I think is the issue. Many people feel an emotional impulse, that they want to side with the CEO killer, for example, and they find ways to rationalize. What I'd say is, if you think Joe Blow is so evil , why don't we take him to court? What kind of possible actions could we not jail or fine him for but for which we would accept Johnny Anarchy, y'know, igniting his lawn furniture? Of course, the justice system is imperfect, but nobody lawfully elected the next sexy assassin as judge, jury, and executioner.

Chance-Device•17m ago
We use a lot of euphemisms and have a number of myths around political violence. The fact of the matter, so far as I can see, seems to be that political violence is extremely effective, however also extremely destabilising if used at scale.

Force just works a lot of the time, assuming you can win, and often even if you can’t, as even imposing a cost on your opponent often gets you a better deal. There’s a reason we keep having wars.

Also realise that the government monopoly on force is ultimately the only reason that anybody follows laws. That following laws is good for us is beside the point - force must be threatened and used in order to maintain control.

So, force, a euphemism for violence, is ultimately the way anything gets done, and we all have an incentive to lie about this just for the sake of stability.

I don’t know if this answers your question, but it’s what comes to mind on the subject for me.

richardlblair•25m ago
Why did I need to scroll halfway down the page before finding a comment that says it was wrong to firebomb his house and nothing else?
weedhopper•1h ago
If the billionaire is “awake in the middle of the night and pissed”, it means you’re doing it right.
akramachamarei•10m ago
Envy is a deadly sin for a reason
fzeroracer•1h ago
> This is quite valid, and we welcome good-faith criticism and debate.

It's always funny when they pull out this argument when they've been working overtime to pull up the ladder and embed themselves in the MIC.

Listen, for people unaware of history things used to be a lot more violent as workers had to earn their rights with blood. The state had to respond by first attempting to squash it violently and second compromising in such a way as to ensure workers had a bit more power in the system.

As long as AI shit continues to consume the economy, kicking out people who can no longer find a job and survive while the government also removes any remaining safety nets, the end result is going to be violence. This doesn't make the violence right or just, but rather completely predictable. And if people don't learn from history then it will be repeated, unfortunately.

hungryhobbit•1h ago
*Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people, and advancing science and technology are moral obligations for me."

"Prosperity for everyone" ... you lying weasel! You literally took a contract from Anthropic because they wouldn't mass surveil Americans or mass murder non-Americans ... and you would!

Tyrubias•1h ago
Violence like this is not the answer. However, this post feels like a thinly veiled attempt at using this alarming attack to reclaim public goodwill after the New Yorker article the other day.

> Now I am awake in the middle of the night and pissed, and thinking that I have underestimated the power of words and narratives.

Yeah, the words and narratives that Sam Altman promoted caused so much fear and uncertainty and anger that someone thought their only option was to attempt a horrific crime.

Altman wants to seem relatable and personable even though he’s one of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world. You don’t get that option when you control a technology that has the potential to alter so many lives, especially when you just sold said technology to the US military. All the talk around democratizing AI rings hollow.

The implication of Altman’s blog seems to be “stop writing critical articles about me because it will cause more violence.” However, the rich and powerful cannot use this excuse to escape objective scrutiny.

rustystump•17m ago
Interesting you say not vs never. It seems this kid thought it was a time where violence was needed. The question i always ask in these situations is about what the line would be that would justify violence?

Things like healthcare, crime, existential ai, have very grey lines as it isnt obvious when one needs to flip the table. How broken must a system be?

throw7•1h ago
*Working towards prosperity for everyone, empowering all people, and advancing science and technology are moral obligations for me.

How so? What is your theory of morality Sam? What I hear is Google: "Don't Be Evil".

dakolli•1h ago
Sam had this pulled off the front page, because the whole charade obviously isn't getting him the positive attention he was looking for.
minimaxir•1h ago
It most likely tripped the flame war detector heuristic (comments > points), and there is definitely a flame war here.

EDIT: Looks like a mod rescued it (surprisingly) and it is now back to #2.

reducesuffering•1h ago
Sam Altman has written, and probably still believes,

"Development of superhuman machine intelligence (SMI) is probably the greatest threat to the continued existence of humanity."[0]

This means he acknowledges that his actions have the potential to kill every human family on Earth. It should be of no surprise that people took his beliefs seriously.

[0] https://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1

alekq•1h ago
It’s funny how this happens the very same moment we get to read about Claude’s Mythos and a New-Yorker article. I really doubt the attacker is up to date with either…

The only thing surprising here is how naive you guys are. He is a marketing&sales guy in the first place.

gverrilla•42m ago
> The only thing surprising here is how naive you guys are.

Is it really, though? I could have bet money that would be the case. HN crowd is very gullible.

adi_kurian•38m ago
It's sad that loony tunes conspiratorial thinking sounds all the more credible. What a time to be alive.
drivingmenuts•1h ago
None of the things you believe are working out.

1) Working towards prosperity, etc. - the prosperity is all going toward the top 2%. The people who need it most are not seeing it and probably never will because the only ones who guarantee a benefit are the ones with the money to direct that benefit.

2) AI will be the most powerful tool, etc. - see point 1.

3) It will not all go well, etc. - probably should have thought about that before you released it on the world.

4) AI has to democratized, etc. - true, won't happen. See point 1.

5) Adaptability is critical, etc. - Yes. Fully agree.

The problem, Mr. Altman, is that you believe the rest of the world thinks like you do, which is clearly not the case at all. While we have the ability to solve so many of the world's problems, it is absolutely clear that this is not what's happening. The rich in resources are getting richer and they're not doing anything to help those poor in resources become better off. Instead, they are claiming those resources for themselves against the day that everyone else runs out.

Same as it ever was, Mr. Altman. Same as it ever was.

joshcsimmons•1h ago
This is both horrible and not at all surprising.

Every quarter there are more layoffs and we're told how AI will replace us and that we can do nothing to stop it. We cannot afford the simple things our parents were able to and are supposed to be grateful that we are living in a time with such "amazing" technological progress.

Sam is one of the most media-visible people that represents AI replacement of average people's livelihood (not agreeing with this stance but yes, outside of the Hacker News SF-tech matcha latte bubble, this is a commonly held thought) which makes this unsurprising.

Still horrible and not right.

AlexCoventry•58m ago
> The only solution I can come up with is to orient towards sharing the technology with people broadly, and for no one to have the ring. The two obvious ways to do this are individual empowerment and *making sure democratic system stays in control.*

OK! So he's going to renege on the contract he's signed with Hegseth, which effectively commits OpenAI to serving as the IT Department for Trump's secret service?

gverrilla•48m ago
this is probably orchestrated by sam altman himself or one of his lackeys
BloondAndDoom•47m ago
Can someone help me to understand why OpenAI and Anthropic talks as if the future of humanity controlled by them? We have very strong open (weight) Chinese models possibly only 6 months behind of them, gene is out of the bottle, is 6 months of difference really that important? And they don’t have good reasons for that 6 months to stay that way.

Am I missing something or are these just their usual marketing? I’m not arguing about importance of AI but trying to understand why OpenAI and Anthropic are so important?

nthypes•46m ago
I have the same feelings
cj•45m ago
These kind of people have highly paid emoliyees surrounding them on all sides propping them up and very likely making it very easy for them to actually believe it.

It feels like they actually believe it, rather than just “marketing” and I don’t know which is worse.

johnfn•45m ago
Some people think there will be an exponential takeoff, which means that a 6 month lead effectively rounds up to infinity.
tyleo•41m ago
I suppose most just haven’t seen the Chinese models in practice. I haven’t. I was skeptical of AI coding until using Claude Code in February. I saw and I believed. I’ve only done that with Google, OpenAI, and Anthropic’s models so far.
tinyhouse•40m ago
They own the best models and will probably keep owning the best models for a while. They have much more compute now and more data to keep improving their models on many tasks. Open source won't close the gap in 6 months. They are also trying to block other companies from distilling their models [0].

[0] https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...

BloondAndDoom•32m ago
I need to check benchmarks on the models, I wonder what the benchmarks are saying in terms of how closely models tracking these frontiers. —on my mobile at the moment

When it downs compute power I assume you are referring to power to training and interference. Then is it more about training gap will get wider and wider ? Is that the assumption, I know there limited GPUs etc. But I’m having hard time to believe to the idea of China cannot catch up. Even if the gap is 12 months I’m struggling to see what that means in practice? Is that military advantage, economical, intelligence? It still doesn’t explain and whatever the advantage is, aren’t we supposed to see that advantage today? If so, where is it? What’s the massive advantage of USA because of OpenAI and Anthropic?

nothinkjustai•5m ago
GLM 5.1 already closed the gap on Opus 4.6. Deepseek 4 could surpass it.
stavros•36m ago
The Chinese models are distilled from GPT and Claude, so it's not like China would pull ahead if those companies went away for six months. They really are at the forefront of innovation right now, as much as I hate to think of the consequences of this (a single company owning a superintelligence is basically a nightmare scenario for me).
largbae•28m ago
Don't worry, if someone truly achieves superintelligence it won't be controlled by anyone for long.
stavros•25m ago
That's my other nightmare scenario :P
georgemcbay•20m ago
Just imagine how inexpensive paperclips will become, there is always a silver lining.

We will finally have achieved abundance.

stavros•19m ago
Not just abundance, we will have the maximum amount of paperclips possible.
chihuahua•9m ago
There will be a blinding flash which signals the superintelligence singularity. When the smoke clears, you'll see a 50-foot tall Altman/Borg hybrid. He is about to destroy humanity with his death ray. Suddenly, a 50-foot tall Musk/Borg hybrid appears out of nowhere, and stops Altman just in time. Then they work together to destroy all humans.
isodev•27m ago
I think that’s the realm of conspiracy theories. There are also not only Chinese alternatives- Mistral in Europe is doing pretty good in several categories they’ve opted to focus on.

This kind of reiterates the parent’s question I think - people are maybe too focused on the gpt/claude model and forget about all the other ways of using the tech.

stavros•26m ago
Is it? I thought it was pretty well established that open models were distilled from the proprietary, frontier ones. Maybe I'm wrong.
airstrike•22m ago
No, that is not well established at all, and generalizing all open models under that inaccurate umbrella doesn't really help anyone.
isodev•31m ago
> just their usual marketing

I think that’s a very common element for most US tech corps. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta, X etc - they’re all “making a dent in the universe”. It’s unfortunate when their employees and CEOs loose track of the line that separates marketing from reality

neya•29m ago
Two words: Delusion and overconfidence.

"You're absolutely right!" Right after fucking up my entire codebase isn't anywhere near AGI, let alone "having the power to control it"

georgemcbay•26m ago
When you are raising many billions of dollars to build up your infrastructure, you don't have much choice but to project a belief that the eventual outcome will result in a situation where there will be a return on that money.

That said, I do agree with you that the moats are very shallow and any particular frontier AI lab is unlikely to "win the AI race" and capture enough value to be worth the amount of investment they are all currently burning.

unleaded•26m ago
It's a marketing strategy. If it's almost certainly conscious and capable of ending the world if it desired (even if it isn't), imagine how good it could be at building your dream SaaS!
EA-3167•23m ago
Anthropic in particular does this masterfully, you’d think they’d invented Skynet by the way they hand-wring.

As always what matters are actions and evidence, not talk.

therealpygon•10m ago
Especially when Google is in the far better position to come out ahead…imo.
ghshephard•8m ago
Do any of the open weight models from smaller labs exist if they can't distill from the SoTA models that are throwing billions of dollars of compute into pretraining?
adi_kurian•43m ago
Was solid until the word 'democratized'.
jibal•40m ago
So he spends a few seconds writing something generic about his family and then uses that as a platform for a bunch of personal PR. That's sociopathy.
b8•33m ago
We still haven't made AGI, so I don't understand what he's saying they did.
IAmGraydon•10m ago
The guy is either mentally unwell or grifting. Most likely the latter.
richardlblair•33m ago
Jfc. People, a molitov cocktail was thrown as his home.

The rest of what is written doesn't matter. This isn't the moment for that conversation. That's his family. He has a fucking child.

Holy shit.

atbpaca•32m ago
I have many disagreements with Sam Altman. But physical attacks are never the answer. Especially attacking one's family.
kelnos•30m ago
> AI has to be democratized; power cannot be too concentrated. Control of the future belongs to all people and their institutions. AI needs to empower people individually, and we need to make decisions about our future and the new rules collectively. I do not think it is right that a few AI labs would make the most consequential decisions about the shape of our future.

What a bullshit thing for someone who is not actually democratizing access to AI to say.

maplethorpe•21m ago
Maybe they're about to open source their weights?
imiric•29m ago
> We have to get safety right, which is not just about aligning a model—we urgently need a society-wide response to be resilient to new threats. This includes things like new policy to help navigate through a difficult economic transition in order to get to a much better future.

This might be the greatest example of cognitive dissonance I've seen in years. I can't understand how someone who's clearly highly intelligent can express this opinion, while doing the complete opposite. Does he think that everyone is a fool and that nobody will notice? Is this some form of gaslighting? Unbelievable.

Violence is not the answer, but it's easy to see how Sam's public persona would push someone to do this. There are certainly disturbed people who don't need any logical reason for violence, but maybe it would help if Sam stopped being so damn dishonest and manipulative. Even this post that is intended to gain sympathy ends up doing the opposite.

As a sidenote, I wish we would stop paying attention to these people. A probablistic pattern generator is far from the greatest technology humanity has ever invented. Get off your high horse, stop deluding people, and start working with organizations and governments to educate people in understanding and using this tech instead of hoarding power and wealth for you and your immediate circle of grifters.

> A lot of companies say they are going to change the world; we actually did.

Ugh.

jrflowers•26m ago
> Words have power too. There was an incendiary article about me a few days ago. Someone said to me yesterday they thought it was coming at a time of great anxiety about AI and that it made things more dangerous for me. I brushed it aside.

> Now I am awake in the middle of the night and pissed, and thinking that I have underestimated the power of words and narratives. This seems like as good of a time as any to address a few things.

This kind of reads like “It is Ronan Farrow’s fault that some crazy person tried to burn my house down”.

Like this guy was going to go about his week, being normal and not making Molotov cocktails, but then he picked up a copy of The New Yorker and lost his mind

w10-1•22m ago
I appreciate his post and his tone.

No one should need to attack (on the one hand) or "trust" (on the other) Sam Altman (or Donald Trump or Barack Obama).

Power is reliance by others, and that's conditioned on behaviors which are made observable and systems to ensure stakeholders' interests are maintained. Yes, there's some hero-worship, some arbitrary private power, some evasion of systems, and some self-dealing by leader coalitions (indeed, we seem to be at a historical peak), but that's not about him personally but about us, and our willingness to vote (writ large).

We do have to be careful about private power saying managing their issues are a matter for public governance (democratic or otherwise). It's a bit convenient to deflect blame (like having it be the jury that "decides" a case, because then you can't blame the judge). I like that Anthropic stepped up to pay any electricity increases, Apple has been recycling and cleaning up their supply chain, etc. If anything there should be a stronger support for contributing vs. Hobbesian corporations.

creddit•16m ago
1) It's terrible that this has happened. People who do this are evil.

2) It's atrocious that Sam makes it seem like any investigative reporting into him as a major public figure at the head of one of the 5 most important companies in the world is somehow responsible for it.

3) Sam is always playing the smol bean victim for sympathy points. To be clear, he is absolutely the victim of an atrocious crime. However, this post is not done for any reason other than to continue the exact same playbook he has for the last N years in order to manipulate public opinion to his favor. This post will do nothing to stop deranged, evail people but it may make people feel sympathy for him.

throwatdem12311•14m ago
I don’t this will do much to help his image.

They had to stop putting Luigi Mangione in the media because public sentiment was not going the way they expected.

DoneWithAllThat•8m ago
Who is “they”?
jesse_dot_id•11m ago
Not that I excuse this behavior, but it's expected is it not? He's claimed to have built the replacement for human labor while participating in the regulatory capture that ensures that process screws the affected parties out of any effective recourse.

He's stood atop a soapbox, in earshot of everybody, and shouted to the corporations that because of him, they can now fire hundreds of thousands — millions — of people with impunity. It doesn't matter that it's not true and that the firings are probably not actually due to AI. But he's standing in front of them and providing the cover.

He's a marketing guy. He made himself the face of AI. His message out of the gate was that it was going to replace human workers. What did he think was going to happen?

It's like all of these people think that humanity has evolved out of the collective rage spirals that powered political revolutions in the 1500's, 1600's, 1700's — every 100's. Nope. It's always still there. We've had a middle class for awhile to mask it but it's being hollowed out and when it collapses completely, that ugly and ever-present human urge to eat the rich will rage right back to the surface again. Yet, they all seem to be apt to fight to be first in line to be the face of injustice during a volatile period for some reason.

It's kind of baffling but also interesting to witness.

presides•11m ago
>“Once you see AGI you can’t unsee it.” It has a real "ring of power” dynamic to it, and makes people do crazy things. I don’t mean that AGI is the ring itself, but instead the totalizing philosophy of “being the one to control AGI”. The only solution I can come up with is to orient towards sharing the technology with people broadly, and for no one to have the ring.

The analogy has 2 simple rules and you can't even follow them:

#1 It MUST be destroyed.

#2 SOMEONE has to have the ring until then.

Without BOTH of those things you have no meaningful analogy. If we're being super charitable, "For no one to have the ring" is Frodo sitting at the council, with the ring on the table, naively thinking that it can stay right there in that spot forever, safe in Rivendell, about to have the horrifying revelation that there are 2.5 more books in the story. More realistically, it's Boromir moments later arguing that Denethor has the mandate to use it to fight on Gondor's behalf.

Fuck. I'm so past the point of caring about the extinction of our species, or your role in enslaving us to our robot overlords or whatever... but SELLING US SPECIOUS RING ANALOGIES IS WHERE I DRAW THE FUCKING LINE

dmitrygr•9m ago
> There was an incendiary article about me a few days ago [...]

That is a lot of words, none of which state or claim the article was in any way inaccurate. Curious, that

nothinkjustai•7m ago
> It will not all go well. The fear and anxiety about AI is justified; we are in the process of witnessing the largest change to society in a long time

Reason enough to pause and figure out the best way to continue. A massive societal change that won’t all go well means millions dead and tens more with their lives upended.

taurath•5m ago
Scrolled thru.

> A lot of companies say they are going to change the world; we actually did.

Just couldn’t resist. So much of it reads like a marketing message.

Sam - when you say all society will benefit and that’s what you’re working towards, you can’t just say that. Nobody believes you and more importantly nobody has any reason to believe you. When you lead with that, and say nothing about what you are actually doing towards it, you make people work against you. When you put yourself up as a dictator for the collective needs of humanity, you have to put up or shut up.

So many put huge faith in you, but it’s turned out to be in the end entirely about you.