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The 1944 Warsaw Uprising, in Color

https://www.barwypowstania.pl/
84•keiferski•2h ago

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sdoering•1h ago
Great work. My SO is doing family research on the part of her family that came from Warsaw (and a few other parts of Poland). I know she will love to see those.
TheOtherHobbes•1h ago
Harrowing.

For those who don't know, the Uprising was a planned resistance action to expel the Nazis from Warsaw.

Supposedly it was planned in collaboration with the Russians. But the Russian army stood down while the resistance fought alone for two months.

This allowed the Germans to regroup, fight back, and eventually to destroy the city, and most of the resistance itself.

pstuart•1h ago
Did Russia back out to intentionally let it happen or did they chicken out to avoid fighting the nazis?
Robotbeat•1h ago
Intentionally. Allowed the Soviets to administer the place when the Nazis finally left, as the Polish resistance had been crushed. Unforgiveable.
spwa4•1h ago
It was an attempt of the Polish resistance to avoid being "liberated" by the Soviets to just immediately become occupied by the communist red army. The idea being to liberate Warsaw and get US/UK assistance through the Polish government-in-exile in London to establish Polish military control before the Soviet army arrived. Getting US/UK support could have meant that Poland remained an independent state. Instead, Stalin not only betrayed them, but later actually convicted the surviving leaders of the uprising. "Crimes against communism".

This is now politely referred to as a Soviet betrayal in service of "Stalin's post-war political goals for Poland".

shakow•36m ago
It was definitely not planned with the Soviets, for multiple reasons:

  - the Poles of the AK (London government loyal) were not the communist faction (Lublin government loyal), and saw the insurrection as the last chance to get a Poland out of the Soviet sphere of influence post WWII – especially after the publicization of Katyn;

  - even if they had wanted, Stalin had zero interest in giving a hand to London-loyal Poles that were in frontal opposition to “his” Lublin-loyal Poles;

  - the Germans were not caught flat-footed, they already knew of the insurrection preparations and therefore not only was the city well garrisoned, it would have been in any case, as it was the strategic lock of the area to hold the RKKA on the Vistula;

  - and all the above is moot in any case, because the RKKA units that reached the neighborhood of Warsaw in '44 had as many chance of taking the city as the German units that reached Moscow in '41 – they were just spent and at the end of their logistic tail after months of fighting during the Bagration operation, and had no chance of successfully developing an opposed crossing of the Vistula against two Panzerkorps.

So the London-loyal Poles were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and at least they were able to go with a glorious bang. Like a Marshal said, “c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre”.
pzo•25m ago
> So the London-loyal Poles were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and at least they were able to go with a glorious bang.

Many argue this uprising is nothing to be proud of and the crime of the leadership with devastating results: ~200k civilians went with this bang, and city completely wiped out.

shakow•18m ago
This is a question I don't feel qualified enough to lean one way or the other.
consumer451•35m ago
For more context, WWII was started as a partnership between Hitler and Stalin to partition Poland. [0]

Spreading this knowledge is now illegal in Putin's Russia. [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pac...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Against_Rehabilitation_of_... (that name, lol)

Keyframe•1h ago
These two in particular:

https://www.barwypowstania.pl/photos/22

https://www.barwypowstania.pl/photos/51

and the world is stupid enough to repeat the endless cycle of violence.

cyclopeanutopia•1h ago
We have a monument commemorating children fighting in the uprising: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomnik_Ma%C5%82ego_Powsta%C5%8...
pndy•52m ago
And the "W" Hour is commemorated on every 1st August at 1700 hours

https://youtu.be/Ejd2rsXoQSI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22W%22_Hour?useskin=vector

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Also, if you ever have a chance then head to Warsaw Rising Museum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Rising_Museum?useskin=v...

tasuki•7m ago
I used to live nearby and was always weirded out by the statue just being one of the required two-minute stops for all the tourist groups. A short monologue, then move on to the next attraction...
Robotbeat•1h ago
Incredible to see just so many smiling, cheerful faces surrounded by utter destruction and death. The power of comradery, I suppose.
pzo•44m ago
It shows only the better part but doesn't show the bad part. Poles are divided about usefulness of this uprising, how it was (badly) executed and many believe it was deemed to fail.

The aftermath [1] was that ~220k Poles died and out of that 150-200k civilians, often with mass execution - later on a lot of warsaw population was sometimes bitter toward the uprising’s leadership.

To put it in context: within 2 months 200k people died, similar number like in Hiroshima but almost nobody wordwide know about warsaw uprising.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising#Aftermath

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