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1.4 GW: battery storage at former Grohnde nuclear power plant

https://www.heise.de/en/news/1-4-GW-Huge-battery-storage-at-former-Grohnde-nuclear-power-plant-11277367.html
20•pantalaimon•1h ago

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HelloUsername•1h ago
not great, not terrible
skywhopper•1h ago
Recently had a battery storage facility nixed near where I live because the loudest local residents were panicked about possibilities of leaks of heavy chemicals into the groundwater (which is somewhat fair) and a bunch of less reasonable nonsense. Still, assuming the legit risks can be handled, facilities like these are crucial to future growth in electricity demand.
infecto•35m ago
We are in the age of anti-intellectualism.

https://www.propublica.org/article/michigan-solar-farms-heal...

We have been pumping oil out of the ground for lifetimes and still have little concern for all the leaky dead wells across the country but these solar panels, that’s the real problem.

joe_mamba•12m ago
We have also been breathing fine coal, diesel, brake-pad and tire dust for almost 100 years with no riots from gen-pop, but clean nuclear and batteries will kill us.
maxerickson•21m ago
Did they even have a material listing to base their fear on?
pjc50•13m ago
I do think there should be localized referendums where we offer people the choice of taking energy infrastructure out of local approval altogether in exchange for 10% off their bills. It would save so much time and effort. I suspect the silent majority would happily take it leaving a few people yelling at pylons.
wongarsu•59m ago
Batteries are deployed quickly, but high-capacity grid connections can take a decade in the planning phase alone. Everyone wants one, and NIMBYs are quick to oppose them. Locating at a decommissioned nuclear plant is a great solution avoiding this issue
panick21_•23m ago
Turning the nuclear plant back on would have been even better. And then putting a battery next to it would have been even better then that.

With batteries one could argue building them in a more distributed way might make more sense for overall resiliancy.

A fleet of like 70 nuclear plants at maybe 50 location could likely power all of Germany. For batteries you would likely go to 100 to 1000s of locations.

But that said, using the existing connections in some places does make sense.

egr•4m ago
Why would it have been better to turn back on the nuclear plant? What would be the specific advantages of nuclear plant back in operation versus battery project realisation? Or would battery + reactivated plant be the best overall solution?
pjc50•15m ago
Yup. Another good option is co-locating with renewables. In Scotland, there's several BESS projects that are being built on the north/renewable side of a big grid bottleneck between Scotland and England, because the grid upgrades take a long time.

(maps https://www.spenergynetworks.co.uk/pages/cross_border_projec... - it's an odd area, mostly beautiful in that stark empty way a lot of Scotland is, but there's really not a lot of human use already there apart from marginal sheep farming because the land is too steep to till.)

joe_mamba•14m ago
> and NIMBYs are quick to oppose them

I have a solution: higher energy prices for those opposing NIMBYs and cheaper for YIMBYs .

So many issues in politics would be solved if the voters of certain policies were the only ones affected by them instead of writing cheques everyone else has to cash.

nickcw•13m ago
1.4 GW power, 6 GWh capacity

6 GWh is approximately 5 kilotons of TNT equivalent.

Would make a big bang should it go off.

pjc50•11m ago
Would you like to run the same calculations for the (now decomissioned) nuclear power plant on the same site?

Or for that matter the average petrol or natural gas storage facility? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire ("Europe's largest peacetime explosion")

Belgium stops decommissioning nuclear power plants

https://dpa-international.com/general-news/urn:newsml:dpa.com:20090101:260430-930-14717/
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1.4 GW: battery storage at former Grohnde nuclear power plant

https://www.heise.de/en/news/1-4-GW-Huge-battery-storage-at-former-Grohnde-nuclear-power-plant-11...
20•pantalaimon•1h ago•14 comments