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.de TLD offline due to DNSSEC?

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/nic.de
378•warpspin•1h ago•134 comments

Accelerating Gemma 4: faster inference with multi-token prediction drafters

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/developers-tools/multi-token-prediction-gemma-4/
371•amrrs•5h ago•167 comments

Write some software, give it away for free

https://nonogra.ph/write-some-software-give-it-away-for-free-05-05-2026
23•nohell•41m ago•7 comments

Computer Use is 45x more expensive than structured APIs

https://reflex.dev/blog/computer-use-is-45x-more-expensive-than-structured-apis/
235•palashawas•5h ago•123 comments

Three Inverse Laws of AI

https://susam.net/inverse-laws-of-robotics.html
313•blenderob•6h ago•212 comments

Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB AI model on your device without consent

https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/
1114•john-doe•14h ago•768 comments

EEVblog: The 555 Timer is 55 years old [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JhK8iCQuqI
183•brudgers•6h ago•41 comments

Our AI started a cafe in Stockholm

https://andonlabs.com/blog/ai-cafe-stockholm
28•lukaspetersson•1h ago•22 comments

Show HN: Explore color palettes inspired by 3000 master painter artworks

https://paletteinspiration.com/
68•ouli•3h ago•23 comments

Why Most Product Tours Get Skipped

https://productonboarding.com/articles/why-product-tours-get-skipped
8•pancomplex•1h ago•1 comments

GLM-5V-Turbo: Toward a Native Foundation Model for Multimodal Agents

https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.26752
86•gmays•4h ago•21 comments

Agents for financial services and insurance

https://www.anthropic.com/news/finance-agents
173•louiereederson•7h ago•124 comments

California farmers to destroy 420k peach trees following Del Monte bankruptcy

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/usda-aid-california-farmers-22240694.php
191•littlexsparkee•3h ago•240 comments

IBM didn't want Microsoft to use the Tab key to move between dialog fields

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298
257•SeenNotHeard•4h ago•149 comments

The extended predicative Mahlo universe in Martin-Löf type theory

https://academic.oup.com/logcom/article/34/6/1032/7158523
15•danny00•2d ago•0 comments

Proliferate (YC S25) Is Hiring- 200k for junior engineers

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/proliferate/jobs/L3copvK-founding-engineer
1•pablo24602•5h ago

When everyone has AI and the company still learns nothing

https://www.robert-glaser.de/when-everyone-has-ai-and-the-company-still-learns-nothing/
281•youngbrioche•12h ago•199 comments

Should I Run Plain Docker Compose in Production in 2026?

https://distr.sh/blog/running-docker-in-production/
324•pmig•5d ago•245 comments

Underwater robot tracks sperm whale conversations in real time

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/underwater-robot-tracks-sperm-whale-conversations-re...
43•thedebuglife•2d ago•8 comments

Async Rust never left the MVP state

https://tweedegolf.nl/en/blog/237/async-rust-never-left-the-mvp-state
411•pjmlp•14h ago•220 comments

Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

https://variety.com/2026/digital/news/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-publ...
138•spankibalt•4h ago•83 comments

Today I've made the difficult decision to reduce the size of Coinbase by ~14%

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/2051616759145185723
181•adrianmsmith•9h ago•196 comments

Researchers print structural colour with an inkjet printer

https://physicsworld.com/a/researchers-print-structural-colour-with-an-inkjet-printer/
31•zeristor•2d ago•5 comments

Show HN: Airbyte Agents – context for agents across multiple data sources

79•mtricot•7h ago•12 comments

iOS 27 is adding a 'Create a Pass' button to Apple Wallet

https://walletwallet.alen.ro/blog/ios-27-wallet-create-pass/
360•alentodorov•9h ago•278 comments

Apple Cuts More Mac Studio and Mac Mini RAM Options as Memory Shortage Worsens

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/05/05/apple-mac-studio-mac-mini-ram-cuts/
42•pixelesque•1h ago•29 comments

Quantum Key Distribution (QKD) and Quantum Cryptography (QC)

https://www.nsa.gov/Cybersecurity/Quantum-Key-Distribution-QKD-and-Quantum-Cryptography-QC/
36•mooreds•4h ago•13 comments

Collaborative Editing in CodeMirror (2020)

https://marijnhaverbeke.nl/blog/collaborative-editing-cm.html
51•luu•2d ago•7 comments

Comparing the Z80 and 6502 to Their Relatives

https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2026/05/02/comparing-the-z80-and-6502-to-their-relatives/
100•ibobev•2d ago•19 comments

Docker 29 has changed its default image store for new installs

https://docs.docker.com/engine/storage/containerd
115•neitsab•3d ago•69 comments
Open in hackernews

.de TLD offline due to DNSSEC?

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/nic.de
367•warpspin•1h ago

Comments

warpspin•1h ago
Whole .de TLD seems to go offline right now due to dnssec or missing nic.de nameservers?
fweimer•1h ago
This works:

    $ unbound-host -t A www.denic.de
    www.denic.de has address 81.91.170.12
This does not:

    $ unbound-host -D -t A www.denic.de
    www.denic.de has address 81.91.170.12
    validation failure <www.denic.de. A IN>: signature crypto failed from 194.246.96.1 for DS denic.de. while building chain of trust
So it does seem DNSSEC-related.

EDIT My explanation was wrong, this is not how keytags work. The published keytag data is consistent:

    de. 3600 IN DNSKEY 256 3 8 AwEAAfRLmzuIXVf7x5A0+U7hke0dS+GEJG0EdPhnOthCCLhy0t0WqLyoXJOhnfsTJ8vQX5fd9qOJc9gyr3SWJZkXAhPm3yPSC7FWWHF70WZTKKM9CekmKdqwMwq6ZCjMSUcecCuSF4Sbt1MRszV7rFmfGVklA1l5UzNbqwD+Dr5vfcLn ;{id = 33834 (zsk), size = 1024b}
    de. 3600 IN DNSKEY 257 3 8 AwEAAbWUSd/QN9Ae543xzdiacY6qbjwtZ21QfmdgxRdm4Z7bjjHWy249uqxCyjjjoS4LDoRDKmj7ElffMKvTWKE1qFKu0p8TUy4wyhX0M+m5FUjvQ3CiZMi+qY7GSHA5B+Zd73cidmnTeb3e8lso6jEsXg05/VZ2AyAqWF6FexEIFxIqiwwLk4UP0BwZ17Ur3q1qx9VSbPMyHgQ9d6nHUN1EEJsTDA2v0vKumsUyp74ZanRZ/bB/6IzpaaZyr5BLF5pSCNdbRNjVmkwYD0993vm79LueyOeibsoHRc16jhALrIJou1PFjdq7YQsYN0KtqRiJtaAfPprDBREpeamPuW/MnW0= ;{id = 26755 (ksk), size = 2048b}
    de. 3600 IN DNSKEY 256 3 8 AwEAAbTe1PJi8EgIudNGb+KRTxBL2aCu5rXkZ+aIe/TC88pwRdrXYeXODp1ihZWFop5CrbWRBLrk/YUPBE8aBc6oJP+58dSkdMLYkjSkmvdvYx+zXnRLWlF2bapxvZxshATJDfGjGbCiWxKEOoyRx3UhICtHC+cUSddsEvzfacUcBb6n ;{id = 32911 (zsk), size = 1024b}
    de. 3600 IN RRSIG DNSKEY 8 1 3600 20260519030655 20260505013655 26755 de. ke56T5GZt/X6zMBAF+ouyCTnAd7RY7MsnDcfa9jyyOwSouRXhvzim/V13JDTMBAnpAHxWQXoruXrAZ6A6re5N+8Pp2utVkAEKTWs0r4UOLNKoZ2+zMwNplKjNNnY5PJIbHfa5myyziLiIsi//qDIgQEACFk+pZcHXrRdqRoXPCL3UtfaXjk3+duDQdlPnYsJys5UshjVpkALSMChW7J0anzr0sG+f9ytstBneymMwFYOUC3NqbejbLPZsXGPZBQKPAoVJuV5q3znopbcqrDFfjI7bmX3QPYNvOaiT1ElBfi2piJVpDzMaMAmm2jCmvrf5VeTOBccMroh8sBtDPsaEg== ;{id = 26755}
The signature on the SOA record still does not verify:

    de. 86400 IN SOA f.nic.de. dns-operations.denic.de. 1778014672 7200 7200 3600000 7200
    de. 86400 IN RRSIG SOA 8 1 86400 20260519205754 20260505192754 33834 de. aZoiAJ+PaHUDVSHNXfV/R26ZK3GpFB7ek2Z46VnZdmPEDaTww+a7PkiQ98W83xohUunXYSvQCMeGYfUre5UT76eBKThdxW2a6ImX9/x/oEzQ9x/69Y/NSeTckOv9m3HCLBOug01op1koiHOIAVEvonOmXEHHqo1P4sR/fNbcVg4= ;{id = 33834}
kaltsturm•1h ago
not all: https://www.heise.de/ works
warpspin•1h ago
Probably just a high TTL.
0123456789ABCDE•35m ago
can confirm, at least another 54k seconds from where i sit
edb_123•28m ago
Doesn't work here, at least not anymore. Every single .de domain I have tried doesn't resolve.
kangalioo•1h ago
So glad I found someone mention this. Amazon.de, SPIEGEL.de is down. Highly prominent sites unreachable. I wonder how long this will last and how big of a thing this ends up being once people talk about it :o Feels big to me
moltar•1h ago
Both examples open for me
irundebian•1h ago
Some domains work, some not. I assume that working domains are cached.
balou23•1h ago
amazon.de, spiegel.de are down for me, too. heise.de works, but that might've been cached somewhere on my side.
yk•1h ago
dig manages to dig out ips for heise.de and tagesschau.de but not spiegel.de amazon.de and google.de However, dig @8.8.8.8 has still amazon.de cached, unlike 1.1.1.1 so perhaps Google to the rescue?

[Edit] After playing around with it, google seems to have at least some pages cached. After setting dns to 8.8.8.8 amazon.de and spiegel.de work again, my blog does not.

theanonymousone•56m ago
idealo.de, ebay.de, and spiegel.de are down, but amazon.de opens for me.
hmilch99•1h ago
https://pastebin.com/2mQUB8xX seems like someone's going to have a lot of fun tonight
krystofbe•1h ago
Looks like a DNSSEC issue, not a nameserver outage. Validating resolvers SERVFAIL on every .de name with EDE:

RRSIG with malformed signature found for a0d5d1p51kijsevll74k523htmq406bk.de/nsec3 (keytag=33834) dig +cd amazon.de @8.8.8.8 works, dig amazon.de @a.nic.de works. Zone data is intact, DENIC just published an RRSIG over an NSEC3 record that doesn't validate against ZSK 33834. Every validating resolver therefore refuses to answer.

Intermittency fits anycast: some [a-n].nic.de instances still serve the previous (good) signatures, so retries occasionally land on a healthy auth. Per DENIC's FAQ the .de ZSK rotates every 5 weeks via pre-publish, so this smells like a botched rollover.

qazwsxedchac•25m ago
So a single configuration mistake in a single place wiped out external reachability of a major economy. It happened in the evening local time and should be fixable, modulo cache TTLs, by morning. This will limit the blast radius somewhat.

Still, at this level, brittle infrastructure is a political risk. The internet's famous "routing around damage" isn't quite working here. Sould make for an interesting post mortem.

walrus01•14m ago
It looks like a failed key replacement during a scheduled maintenance event. Normally this sort of thing is thoroughly tested and has multiple eyes on for detailed review and planning before changes get committed, but obviously something got missed.
dlopes7•14m ago
I love how I work with IT for 20 years and don't understand a single acronym here other than DNSSEC
walrus01•13m ago
To be fair, advanced real world knowledge of public/private key PKIs (x.509 or other), things like root CAs, are a fairly esoteric and very specialized field of study. There's people whose regular day jobs are nothing but doing stuff with PKI infrastructure and their depth of knowledge on many other non-PKI subjects is probably surface level only.
hannob•7m ago
I know quite a bit about PKI and X.509, and I can tell you that much: the overlap with how DNSSEC works is limited.
hathawsh•5m ago
Is that actually true, though? Even though it's not really my job, I find myself debugging certificates and keys at least once a month, and that's after automating as much as possible with certbot and cloud certificates. PKI always seems to demand attention.
mschuster91•3m ago
It's not made easier by the fact that a lot of cryptography is either very old and arcane or it's one hell of a mess of code that doesn't make sense without reading standards.

I had the misfortune of having to dig deep into constructing ASN.1 payloads by hand [1] because that's the only thing Java speaks, and oh holy hell is this A MESS because OF COURSE there's two ways to encode a bunch of bytes (BIT STRING vs OCTET STRING) and encoding ed25519 keys uses BOTH [2].

And ed25519 is a mess in itself. The more-or-less standard implementation by orlp [3] is almost completely lacking any comments explaining what is going on where and reading the relevant RFCs alone doesn't help, it's probably only understandable by reading a 500 pages math paper.

End of rant.

[1] https://github.com/msmuenchen/meshcore-packets-java/blob/mai...

[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8410#appendix-A

[3] https://github.com/orlp/ed25519/tree/master

nuil•1h ago
Looks Like a DNSSEC error:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/nic.de

binghatch•1h ago
Wow… it’s definitely not all .de TLDs, but a lot of prominent ones definitely.
phit_•1h ago
its gonna be all .de domains once caches dry out, anything that still works right now is bound to eventually fail until the underlying issue is resolved
fossdd•1h ago
Any .de domain with DNSSEC
meineerde•1h ago
Any .de domain is affected, regardless of the domain's dnssec deployment status, as long as you use a resolver which validates dnssec.
mrngm•45m ago
Unfortunately, even domains that did not have DNSSEC enabled earlier today are affected.

We observed issues on a non-DNSSEC .de domain at 19:45Z and confirmed around 20:12Z it wasn't just us, but also more high profile domain names.

eliaskg•51m ago
Amazon is completely down in Germany. Not only on amazon.de, even in the app.
sundiver•1h ago
Yes, all .de domains down because of DNSSEC failure at Denic https://dnsviz.net/d/de/dnssec/
taegee•1h ago
https://i.imgur.com/eAwdKEC.png

Edit: Alternative link: https://www.cyberciti.biz/media/new/cms/2017/04/dns.jpg

notpushkin•1h ago

  {"data":{"error":"Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later."},"success":false,"status":403}
There is some strange irony to this, I suppose.
yjftsjthsd-h•1h ago
In my experience, that error is a lie and is what you get if they've IP blocked you. (Easy to hit on a VPN, in particular)
itvision•1h ago
A protection against bad networks, including VPN.

It's been like that for over two years now.

ricardo81•1h ago
I get "content not viewable in your region", from the UK. Not an ideal image sharing website nowadays.
9dev•20m ago
Rather, not an ideal legislation nowadays…
_ache_•41m ago
https://dns.kitchen/dns.mp4

Or: https://dns.kitchen/jingle

pogii123•1h ago
For me bmw.de works but www.bmw.de not
benny_s•1h ago
bmw.de is down for me too
MikeNotThePope•1h ago
Both domains page load for me from Amsterdam. I wonder if there's communication disruption. Undersea cable severed?
pogii123•1h ago
$ nslookup bmw.de ~ Server: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer: Name: bmw.de Address: 160.46.226.165

$ nslookup www.bmw.de ~ ;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 8.8.8.8, trying next server Server: 8.8.4.4 Address: 8.8.4.4#53

* server can't find www.bmw.de: SERVFAIL

dark-star•1h ago
You mean the big undersea cable between the Netherlands and Germany? ;-)
dark-star•1h ago
both work for me from inside Germany
jamietanna•1h ago
Was wondering why a few of my sites aren't CSSing, as they use https://classless.de
kaltsturm•1h ago
cache
iknowstuff•1h ago
Kurzgesagt predicted this, Germany is OVER
irundebian•1h ago
Danke Merkel
merb•1h ago
Well at least it’s night time which means it’s hopefully resolved in the morning.

Looks like it failed after a maintenance: https://www.namecheap.com/status-updates/planned-denic-de-re...

https://status.denic.de/

gpvos•18m ago
If so, it still worked for several hours after the maintenance was completed.
1vuio0pswjnm7•1h ago
.de TLD is online. DNS working fine

DNSSEC not working

If using an open resolver, i.e., a shared DNS cache, e.g., third party DNS service such as Google, Cloudflare, etc., then it might fail, or it might not. It depends on the third party DNS provider

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/materials/slides-11...

lxgr•1h ago
Wow, I thought I was somehow unaffected but my resolver must just have cached the sites I'd tried.
kuerbel•1h ago
I just spent the better half of an hour to debug unbound and the pihole because I thought it's a me problem...

Good news though, if you add domain-insecure: "de" to your unbound config everything works fine

victorbjorklund•1h ago
Same haha
chromehearts•1h ago
SAMEEEEE !!!
Bender•1h ago
I don't even enable DNSSEC in Unbound. There just isn't enough adoption yet for me to feel like I am missing out on something, yet.

"Cloudflare Radar data shows 8.11% of domains are signed with DNSSEC, but only 0.47% of queries are validated end-to-end." [1]

Zones I may care about:

- Amazon.com: unsigned

- My banks: unsigned

- Hacker News: unsigned

- Email that I do not host: unsigned

- My power companies billing: unsigned

- I found some! id.me and irs.gov are signed.

[1] - https://technologychecker.io/blog/dnssec-adoption

V__•4m ago
Just before the outage happened I updated multiple client servers. That was a very stressfull hour trying to figure out why nothing works.
__michaelg•1h ago
Finally establishing the concept of Feiertag on the internet. Come back tomorrow.
9753268996433•59m ago
Using this newfangled thingamabob on a silent holiday will result in the police kicking in your door the next morning.
throw1234567891•51m ago
Internetfreie Dienstage, 21st century variant of Autofreie Sonntage.
sunaookami•1h ago
https://status.denic.de/ says "Partial Service Disruption" for DNS Nameservice now.

EDIT: it says "Service Disruption" now

MASNeo•1h ago
At least they have some humor left.

Edit: Now even the humor is gone.

sunaookami•44m ago
Can only be topped when the status page is not reachable anymore :D
lschueller•32m ago
Or only accessible through a german dns server
niklasrde•27m ago
It says "Server Not Found" now
chromehearts•1h ago
I was STRESSING tf out because I wasn't able to connect to my services & apps through my domains like at all .. they only work when using my phone data ? .. thank god it's not my fault this time
Locke80•1h ago
But we're Germans, and we need someone to blame.
AndroTux•56m ago
I'm blaming chromehearts anyways
lschueller•39m ago
Thank god for the german chain of blame: 1. The system 2. The neighbor 3. China
warpspin•29m ago
You definitely forgot Merkel and Habeck.
Cockbrand•28m ago
Danke Merkel!!1!11!!
victorbjorklund•1h ago
I was just wondering what was up with our .de site.
jiggawatts•1h ago
I work with a few people specialised in IT security, and some of them take their jobs too seriously and will "lock down" everything to the point that it becomes a very real risk that they lock out everyone including themselves.

Fundamentally, security is a solution to an availability problem: The desire of the users is for a system to remain available despite external attack.

Systems that become unavailable to everyone fail this requirement.

A door with its keyhole welded shut is not "secure", it's broken.

QuantumNomad_•1h ago
Security is not just a solution to availability. It is also to keep sensitive data (PII, or business secrets, or passwords, or cryptographic private keys, and so on) away from the hands of bad actors.

If I’m unable to use Amazon for 24 hours it doesn’t really matter. If a photo copy of my passport is leaked that’s worries and potential troubles for years.

senkora•57m ago
Security = Confidentiality + Integrity + Availability

or alternatively,

Security = (exclude unauth'd reads) + (exclude unauth'd writes) + (include auth'd reads and auth'd writes)

Gotta satisfy all parts in order to have security.

jiggawatts•46m ago
If you squint at it, you can convert all three to just availability.

    Confidentiality = available to us, but nobody else.

    Integrity = available to us in a pristine condition.
It's a bit reductive, I'll admit, but it can be a useful exercise in the same way that everything in an economy can be reduce to units of either: "human time", "money" or "energy". Roughly speaking they're interchangeable.

E.g.: What's the benefit to you if your data is so confidential that you can't read it either? This is a real problem with some health information systems, where I can't access my own health records! Ditto with many government bureaucracies that keep my records safe and secure from me.

yosamino•1h ago
The last time .de I remember .de had a major outage like this was 2010. I would cite some sources but... you know. That was a fun afternoon, though.

I am very happy that it doesn't happen more often.

kaltsturm•1h ago
https://dnsviz.net/d/spiegel.de/dnssec/

yes indeed

dark-star•1h ago
How come I have zero problems with any .de domain I tried accessing in the last half hour?
pw6hv•1h ago
cache
AndroTux•59m ago
maybe your upstream doesn't validate DNSSEC?
dark-star•52m ago
maybe? I'm using PiHole and 8.8.8.8/1.1.1.1 as upstream, and both options show "DNSSEC" next to their options in settings, so I assumed DNSSEC was enabled (unless I have to enable this somewhere else as well?)
warpspin•46m ago
That's weird cause 8.8.8.8/1.1.1.1 will already answer with SERVFAIL right now, unless the domain is still in the cache.
kaltsturm•1h ago
even their own status page is not reachable: https://status.denic.de/

As fallback they should use their X account: https://x.com/denic_de

dgellow•39m ago
Seems to be up now?

May 5, 2026 23:28 CEST

May 5, 2026 21:28 UTC

INVESTIGATING

Frankfurt am Main, 5 May 2026 – DENIC eG is currently experiencing a disruption in its DNS service for .de domains. As a result, all DNSSEC-signed .de domains are currently affected in their reachability. The root cause of the disruption has not yet been fully identified. DENIC’s technical teams are working intensively on analysis and on restoring stable operations as quickly as possible. Based on current information, users and operators of .de domains may experience impairments in domain resolution. Further updates will be provided as soon as reliable findings on the cause and recovery are available. DENIC asks all affected parties for their understanding. For further enquiries, DENIC can be contacted via the usual channels.

elch•35m ago
All .de domains are down for me.
kaltsturm•34m ago
with firefox: KO with chrome: OK
sunaookami•26m ago
They did now! https://x.com/denic_de/status/2051779175908774148
niklasrde•22m ago
And in English: https://x.com/denic_de/status/2051779740080521646
tarruda•58m ago
Mailbox.org (also from Germany) seems to be experiencing issues too.
pocksuppet•57m ago
I must be early. There's not a single tptacek DNSSEC rant in this thread yet.
aberoham•54m ago
He’s busy with MathAcademy earning XP-SEC
mike-cardwell•46m ago
Perhaps he's moribund
0123456789ABCDE•30m ago
doesn't this event speak for itself though?
elevation•56m ago
I've considered hard-coding some addresses into firmware as a fallback for a DNS outtage (which is more likely than not just misconfigured local DNS.) Events like this help justify this approach to the unconcerned.
whalesalad•47m ago
The irony is that DNS is a global and distributed system meant to be resilient. It’s the DNSSEC layer on top in this case causing problems.
siginator•56m ago
how is that possible?
aweiher•16m ago
Solar Flares
dnnddidiej•4m ago
Took more than cloud flares?
dwedge•52m ago
On a slightly unrelated note, I was setting nameservers for two .de domains a few weeks ago and thought my provider was being crazily strict because they kept getting rejected. Turns out you can't point to a nameserver until that nameserver has a zone for the domain, and you can't use nameservers from two providers unless those two providers are both in the NS records at both ends
whalesalad•49m ago
Common paint point with DNSSEC. It’s brutal in the domain industry because when you buy a name with DNSSEC enabled it oftentimes can’t be setup to resolve due to these sorts of issues. Typically seller needs to deactivate first.
siva7•46m ago
Crazy. I can't remember an incident like this ever happened before and it's still not fixed? .de is probably the most important unrestricted domain after .com from an economical perspective. Millions of businesses are "down".
lschueller•42m ago
It's Germany, pessimistic time estimation + 1/3 and you are in a realistic time frame for the issue being resolved.
warpspin•39m ago
It's night. Somebody has to fill a form to approve night work first.
snapetom•33m ago
Luckily it's not Sunday. Everyone would be out in the country hiking.
lschueller•28m ago
Or reading the latest prints about tax filings and how to conduct a compliance audit with pen and paper.
thih9•6m ago
Or sweeping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehrwoche

greyhound•27m ago
And send it by post for approval, which will take 5-30 business days.
9dev•24m ago
Oh come on, that’s not true. You could also fax it. That might come with an additional processing fee though.
rasz•10m ago
Dont be ridiculous, thats what FAX is for.
Cockbrand•29m ago
In addition: it's Germany, pessimistic cost estimation + 2000%, and you are in a realistic budget for the issue being resolved.
lschueller•27m ago
:D... before tax!
rwmj•37m ago
I remember when .com went down, in July 1997.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/we...

ctippett•16m ago
> For instance, the name "www.nytimes.com" corresponds to nine different computers that answer requests for The New York Times on the Web, one of which is 199.181.172.242

  $ dig -x 199.181.172.242 +short
  www2.nytimes.com.
Neat.
AndroTux•28m ago
DENIC apparently resolved all .de domains to NXDOMAIN in 2010: https://www.theregister.com/2010/05/12/germany_top_level_dom...
whalesalad•33m ago
You can visually see this anomaly in many of CF Radar's charts: https://radar.cloudflare.com/dns/de?dateRange=1d
g4cg54g54•24m ago
funfact: enabling DNS sec NOW will fix your domain instantly if dnssec was disabled before

-> no idea if that also "heals" anyone who had dnssec on before.

-> no idea if maybe they need to roll back something and then rebreak the new dnssec i made a minute later lol...

tom1337•21m ago
I have never used DNSSEC and never really bothered implementing it, but do I understand it correctly that we took the decentralized platform DNS was and added a single-point-of-failure certificate layer on top of it which now breaks because the central organisation managing this certificate has an outage taking basically all domains with them?
Medowar•15m ago
What you see here is decentralisation working. The issue is with the operator of the de TLD, and as such only that TLD is affected. DNS is not decentralised in such a way, that multiple organisations run the infrastructure of a TLD, those are always run by a single entity.(.com and .net are operated by Verisign)

So what the issue is, that the operator has, does not change the impact.

0x80h•16m ago
Am I reading this correctly? All .de domains are down? Looking forward to reading the postmortem.
nfreising•13m ago
They can join the (rather long) list of TLD DNSSEC outages https://ianix.com/pub/dnssec-outages.html
edo888•13m ago
https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/issues-getting-certifica...
kaltsturm•11m ago
Denic should work out a desaster recovery test - like: https://blog.apnic.net/2022/02/14/disaster-recovery-with-dns...
sanbaideng•11m ago
aiimageupscaler
Aldipower•9m ago
Apparently the DENIC team was on a party this evening! Party hard, but not too hard. https://bsky.app/profile/denic.de/post/3ml4r2lvcjg2h
FinnKuhn•7m ago
A real party killer if I have ever seen one.
SOLAR_FIELDS•5m ago
At least all of the appropriate people were in a room together when the outage happened
walrus01•4m ago
Interesting "bus problem" to have in a scenario where everyone who is qualified, experienced and trusted enough to commit lives changes (or perform a revert, undo results of a botched maintenance, etc) in an emergency situation is not completely sober.
kaltsturm•7m ago
Denic will be added to the "Major DNSSEC Outages and Validation Failures" list: https://ianix.com/pub/dnssec-outages.html
yowmamasita•3m ago
The same day Kurzgesagt posted their video “Germany is over”. Huh. https://youtu.be/n-gYFcVx-8Y