I know there are bad business reasons, but how can someone classify a VPN leak as "not a security issue" and keep their pride?
boje•1h ago
That assumes there is pride they have to bother to keep.
k4rli•1h ago
Interestingly GrapheneOS being so good brings more money to Google as only Pixel phones are supported.
mcraiha•59m ago
There should be at least one Motorola phone before end of the year that has GrapheneOS support.
oceansky•53m ago
So far. Other companies surely will make their devices compatible if the market share increases for it
snapplebobapple•41m ago
First motorola grapheneos phone i am buying to get fully off the google pain train. Grapheneos tides me over until a real linux smart phone shows up or i die of old age. Now if home assistant could get thread network join*ng working without an android phone with a google account i could ve fully ris of those eh holes.
surgical_fire•15m ago
I am patiently waiting for that one. I have been willing to move to GrapheneOS for a while, but I don't feel like buying Google hardware.
iamtedd•9m ago
> Now if home assistant could get thread network join*ng working without an android phone with a google account
There is already a way to do this. It's fiddly, but not by much. Once set up it's a much better experience, though.
Sadly, Verizon Pixel phones, even after carrier unlocking, seem to be forever blocked from using GrapheneOS.
zb3•3m ago
I don't see a problem with supporting their legitimate hardware or cloud business models. But of course I see a problem supporting their illegitimate adware and spyware business models.
OutOfHere•1h ago
It wasn't patched by Google because it's a backdoor. For various reasons, modern mainline Android is substantially hazardous to use.
nottorp•59m ago
> Because system_server operates with elevated networking privileges and is exempt from VPN routing restrictions
So a VPN isn't a VPN on Android? Regardless of this bug. Do other locked down operating systems act the same?
Paradigm2020•23m ago
Ios does the same, only way around it is if you have an ?enterprise? licence (250+ devices)
Mullvad and others reported on that one ages ago
unethical_ban•23m ago
MacOS has had instances where their own apps could bypass always-on VPN. I'm not sure if there have been exploits or gaps where traffic could go to arbitrary destinations directly.
mmooss•9m ago
How hard would it be to fix the system_server (and any other) bypass?
zb3•6m ago
Stock Android is spyware and adware, back in the day we called such software malicious and removed it, now it's the default.
unethical_ban•1h ago
boje•1h ago
k4rli•1h ago
mcraiha•59m ago
oceansky•53m ago
snapplebobapple•41m ago
surgical_fire•15m ago
iamtedd•9m ago
There is already a way to do this. It's fiddly, but not by much. Once set up it's a much better experience, though.
https://www.matteralpha.com/how-to/how-to-use-home-assistant...
winter_blue•19m ago
zb3•3m ago