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Orthrus-Qwen3: up to 7.8×tokens/forward on Qwen3, identical output distribution

https://github.com/chiennv2000/orthrus
32•FranckDernoncou•7h ago

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FranckDernoncou•7h ago
Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.12825 ; Code+models: https://github.com/chiennv2000/orthrus ; Disclosure: co-author.

Idea: Inject a trainable diffusion attention module into each layer of a frozen AR Transformer. Both heads share one KV cache. Diffusion head projects K=32 tokens in parallel; AR head verifies in a second pass and accepts the longest matching prefix. Output distribution is provably identical to the base model.

Results:

- Up to 7.8x TPF, ~6x wall-clock on MATH-500.

- 16% of params trained, <1B tokens, 24h on 8xH200.

- vs. diffusion LMs (Dream, Fast-dLLM-v2, SDAR, Mercury, Gemini Diffusion): they modify base weights and lose accuracy (Fast-dLLM-v2: -11 pts on MATH-500). Orthrus freezes the backbone; accuracy matches Qwen3-8B exactly.

- vs. Speculative Decoding (EAGLE-3, DFlash): no external drafter, no separate cache, zero TTFT penalty (no drafter to init/sync). KV overhead is O(1) (~4.5 MiB flat). Acceptance length on MATH-500: 11.7 vs. 7.9 (DFlash) vs. 3.5 (EAGLE-3).

- Single-step denoising beats multi-step (6.35 vs. 3.53 TPF). KL distillation beats CE on acceptance rate.

Limitations: strictly bounded by the frozen base model (inherits its biases, hallucinations, knowledge gaps); Qwen3-only evaluation; greedy + rejection sampling only.

ilaksh•1h ago
Amazing. Is it possible to do this with Qwen 3.6 27B? Will it work with quants (I assume so)?
xiphias2•28m ago
The most interesting part of this idea for me is how it wasn't tried / implemented before, as it makes sense.

I haven't read the paper but of course DTree tricks work here as well

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Orthrus-Qwen3: up to 7.8×tokens/forward on Qwen3, identical output distribution

https://github.com/chiennv2000/orthrus
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