I released Gin in Hacker news more than 10 years ago! Changed my career and allowed me to meet a lot of interesting people. Thank you HN!
khurs•59m ago
Cool! I used gin once on a company project.
peterpost2•54m ago
I'm not sure if I could use a framework that shares the name with an alcoholic drink in a professional setting.
Plenty of people who struggle with alcohol and who would benefit of not being reminded of it at work too.
manucorporat•49m ago
Truth be told, I came up with this name when I was 12 years younger. The other big framework back then was called Martini. And Gin pretended to be the idiomatic version for Go. Go -> Gin
Graziano_M•39m ago
If seeing a word written down is traumatizing, you need more help, and you’re not suited for the professional world. If coddling people like that would make you select away from a project for something beyond its technical merit, then I question your ability act as a professional.
add-sub-mul-div•34m ago
I don't agree with the original take but this response is worse. Always choose curiosity about someone else's mindset rather than use it as an imaginary platform to build yourself up and pretend to be higher than them. Find another way to gain confidence.
tptacek•38m ago
You do you, but it's tough out there for that position, given Homebrew, Flask, Absinthe, Wine, &c.
gchamonlive•35m ago
This is important, but let's think it in different light. If society treated alcohol responsibly, without hammering the population with direct advertisement in ads, or indirectly with movies and cultural production, would a package name like this be offensive? I really doubt, so the problem isn't the package naming, but the entire cultural production that incentivises and rewards alcohol abuse.
idle_zealot•26m ago
Part of reaching maturity is an ability to tell when your jokes or behavior make others uncomfortable, even when you don't think they should, and moderating yourself to enable others to feel comfortable with your presence. Part of maturity is also knowing when the things that cause you discomfort are unreasonable and recommending they be avoided is disruptive and antisocial. I think "all references to alcohol" falls pretty far under that latter category. Part of getting over alcoholism in our society is gaining the ability to hear references to it without suffering emotional distress, and while it's good to help people on that journey erasing reference to their object of dependence is both unworkable and ultimately harmful to those ends.
espetro•31m ago
Thanks for the detailed walk-through @manucorporat .
On designing for zero breaking changes, I see that is also a core value at Go. However, how did you actually apply it to software design and architecture? Got any resources to share here? Did you had to put more effort on other projects not running on Go to keep it also free from breaking changes?
I'm mainly building tooling in other runtimes like Rust and TS, and I'm interested to hear your take on it.
manucorporat•1h ago