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Anthropic's Method to Losing Goodwill in a Few Easy Steps

https://raheeljunaid.com/blog/anthropics-method-to-losing-goodwill-in-a-few-easy-steps/
119•raheelrjunaid•1h ago

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Zambyte•1h ago
Not sure why this was flagged, Anthropic has obviously been burning bridges. I thought this line was funny though:

> If you want to autocomplete, like I do, you don’t need Fable, or even Opus; Sonnet works fine.

It reads like "if you want to go to the grocery store, you don't need a space shuttle, or even a SR-71 Blackbird; a Cessna works fine."

raheelrjunaid•1h ago
I agree that without context, Sonnet is overkill for just autocomplete code suggestions. My point later in that section is that to have an autocomplete mindset (where an AI is a helpful tool rather than a driver), you only need a decent subset of models, not the best of the best.
gruez•51m ago
Sounds like the author is using "autocomplete" as a derogatory way of referring to LLMs in general (eg. "LLMs can't code, they're just autocomplete on steroids")
stingraycharles•29m ago
Then the author needs to be more specific because there are special models for code autocomplete that are much faster.
wmorgan•17m ago
It’s talking about how you can type

  def frobQux(Qux qux, int radians) {
And it goes and reads your code and suggests a reasonable way to frob a qux a certain number of radians. Which is at the same time (a) pretty useful!, (b) fairly new, we’ve only been able to do this since 2023 or so, but (c) also not that hard by 2026 standards because capabilities have advanced so much in the last three years.
stingraycharles•9m ago
Why would anyone be using Fable, Opus or even Sonnet for that type of work? You don’t need an advanced reasoning model for that at all.
uberman•33m ago
While I did not flag this, it is clearly a hit piece. Why write and article to publish in July that does not include June data? Unless of course one looks at June uptime and finds that does not align with their story.
tmtvl•18m ago
Are you saying that using LLMs for code autocomplete is like using an aeroplane to go to the grocery store? Because clearly there was no autocomplete before the new AI spring.
sscaryterry•1h ago
The lawsuits will come, paying the piper is inevitable.
imglorp•42m ago
Who would sue, and on what ground?

They basically gave stuff away for free and now they're speed-running enshittification. The end state will be an abusive, adversarial, fully monetized, vendor lockin experience like Oracle or Broadcom. Nobody is forced to play.

cthor•31m ago
Switching costs are still low. Anthropic can only do this while they maintain frontier status, and while they do, they can charge whatever they want. An Oracle or Broadcom would fall behind and lose all its customers in an instant.
bakies•51m ago
Think I'm about to switch. I can't build the automations i'm trying to with claude code anymore. Since they locked away the non-interactive usage and channels can't be used without interacting with the console on startup. I had a good web interface for running CC in containers in k8s but I think it's time to bail out and build around a codex subscription and pi.dev now. I have local models hooked up to pi dev and that's working well. Had it build itself Channels equivalent so agents can talk to each other and receive webhooks. I bet Anthropic will build these things into their ecosystem eventually, but I want it now and running on my cloud.
lioeters•38m ago
It reminds me of people who built businesses on top of APIs provided by Facebook, Reddit, etc. One day the company decides to rug pull the public interface, either to replace it with their own competing product or nothing at all. The anti-competitive pratice makes sense but what I don't understand is the latter case, which is common, where the company is just removing possibilities of how users can participate in their ecosystem and platform. Not only destroying third-party opportunities for profit, but not even providing their own alternative.
rapsey•25m ago
Wasn't facebooks pull a result of the huge Cambridge analytica scandal.
watwut•20m ago
Afaik no. That scandal was not about their public api.
exitb•30m ago
I'm happy using Codex for alternative harnesses and non-interactive usage, but it does make me wonder when OpenAI will start to squeeze their customers in the same way.
tekacs•51m ago
It worth noting that – just to add to the confusion – they apparently cancelled the June 15th change just before it was due to go live:

https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15036540-use-the-clau...

https://the-decoder.com/anthropic-backs-off-unpopular-billin...

So... maybe we can still use third party harnesses with Claude Code subscriptions... for now? Until they change their mind again?

ac29•30m ago
> So... maybe we can still use third party harnesses with Claude Code subscriptions... for now?

The way I read this is: yes, if the third party harness uses Anthropic's Agent SDK. Most of them do not, AFAIK, and are still against ToS (though maybe its not enforced for now)

tekacs•19m ago
I believe you're right and I'm familiar with the actual distinction – the confusion is mostly about how they _feel_ about it, and what'll change from here.
kristianc•18m ago
They didn't apparently cancel it, they did cancel it. I'm still using a third party harness absolutely fine.
m_ke•49m ago
It's looking like Anthropic is realizing that they're about to get squeezed so they need to juice revenue for their IPO before it becomes obvious to everyone else.

Open models like GLM 5.2 are getting good enough to handle 90% of tasks, and will eat most of their usage unless they start serving it at cost. And on the 1% work they fearmongered their way into falling under government control, which will limit how much they can commercialize the frontier.

Nobody will keep paying their premiums and put up with their BS when they can have similar models at cost of inference in any harness that they want.

hnlmorg•34m ago
> Open models like GLM 5.2 are getting good enough to handle 90% of tasks, and will eat most of their usage unless they start serving it at cost.

Most people either don’t have the money to buy hardware to run open models and/or don’t have the utilisation to make renting cost effective.

Systemerror7A69•23m ago
GLM 5.2 is monstrous in size, no one is running that on their own hardware.

But it's a very competitively priced model other providers can offer (since it's open) so it's a much cheaper alternative than claude in practice.

I assume that is what they meant.

Aeolos•21m ago
Fortunately, multiple model providers are offering open weights models at significantly lower prices than closed models.
m_ke•21m ago
https://openrouter.ai/models

you can use these in hermes, cursor, openclaw, opencode, etc with 2 lines of config that claude code will happily do for you if you ask

GLM 5.2, deepseek 4 Flash and the newly released Hy3 are Opus 4.8 and Sonnet 4.6 level models at a tiny fraction of the cost.

I'm on the $200 claude plan and blew through my weekly limits with Fable in a day, then ended up wasting $20 with opus 4.8 overages in an hour to finish out work in active sessions. Since then I've been using GLM 5.2 with openrouter + opencode and am spending less than $5/day for equivalent output.

iterateoften•47m ago
Anthropic takes every chance they make not only to behave suspicious and anti-consumer but also announce that they are acting in ways that hurt you while telling you it’s a feature.

Fable returning wrong answers if it suspects the topic is sensative is the ultimate icing on the huge cake of lies and gaslighting they’ve been baking the past 6 months.

karahime•34m ago
It's the nature of the safetyist position. It creates everything that it claims to avoid (duplicitous behavior, misaligned outputs, unresponsive systems).
mwigdahl•29m ago
> Fable returning wrong answers if it suspects the topic is sensative

Citation, please? On the original release they downgraded models silently to Opus 4.8 when they suspected it was being used for LLM development, but they stopped doing that. Now when you hit one of the guardrail subjects it downgrades to Opus 4.8 visibly in all cases.

I've never seen anything suggesting they're deliberately returning wrong answers. Maybe you're thinking of Gemini's anti-distillation tech?

philipwhiuk•46m ago
> Each changelog entry has a bug fix in almost every release, which is a sign of reliable and stable software!

This is a non-sequitur.

Most consumer apps don't even list all the bugfixes.

baron3dl•44m ago
I do find it challenging to understand what the TOS/AUP allow and not, and what qualifies for subscription and not. If I somehow muster confidence in my interpretation, I continue to doubt that it will be stable over even the short term.
tomaytotomato•40m ago
I have been using Claude code for a while and have recently migrated to Pi

Migrating my skills/agents and config was fairly straightforward.

Pi's agent harness seems to be more responsive and quicker than CC (perhaps with the prompt caching and squashing it does behind the scenes)

Tempted to do a write-up on migration.

I am only using Pi with Github Copilot as I am scared I will get my Claude account banned if I use the Oauth with Pi.

pi.dev

dsrtslnd23•30m ago
what is the current statement on Oauth Claude use with Pi. I remember there was some back and forth from Anthropic? I currently use my Claude sub with Pi.
tomaytotomato•20m ago
No idea,

Anyone from Anthropic here who could answer this?

spudlyo•20m ago
Pi is the first, and and only agent I've ever seriously used, which I picked up after watching one of Marco Zechner's talks about it. His design approach and vision for pi resonated with me, and I've pretty much used it every day since. I, like Marco, am also a grumpy old person, so that might have had something to do with it. I have my own customizations for things like fuzzy autocompleting the name of Emacs buffers and symbols from my project's TAGS file, and a handful of skills. It's a pleasure to work with, and so far it's been my experience that if pi doesn't behave the way I want, it's pretty easy to modify to suit my needs.

OpenAI, as much as I dislike them, seems to be the only big AI lab that doesn't care what agent harness you use, so that's where my $100 a month goes.

jdw64•36m ago
I agree with everything in this post, but that doesn't mean I want to go back to a life without Claude Code. I've been working alone all this time, and finally it feels like I have someone to talk to
mamsouuu•21m ago
Sounds like Claude Code is not what you're looking for
mesmertech•33m ago
As long as they have the best model they can afford to lose goodwill.

People who don't wanna spend too much on LLMs and are trying to optimize whats subsidized even on the Max plans are customers Anthropic is honestly better off without.

lelanthran•14m ago
That's like saying as long as expensive cars are faster than cheaper cars, the expensive manufacturer can afford losing goodwill.

We have yet to see any company use Fablr to increase their profits. Until and unless you can increase your profits with the expensive models, it makes no sense to pay for them.

IOW, the expensive AI providers only draw is goodwill.

Zababa•32m ago
>Dario and Boris have us convinced that “coding is solved” with their loops. But microwaves didn’t solve cooking.

If you want a look at the timeline where the microwave solved cooking, this was an interesting article: https://malmesbury.substack.com/p/my-journey-to-the-microwav.... You can apparently sear meat with a microwave (provided you have the necessary pan).

elzbardico•30m ago
Complaining about external providers not supporting the subsidized prices Claude charge to its subscribers makes no sense. Of course, Claude Code subscription is a loss leader, it is an offering built to create a market for a new product in a very competitive environment in the hopes of capturing a dominant market position with a fully validated product with a healthy demand from business.

Of course they won't give you thousands of dollars of inference for a couple hundred bucks without making sure you're properly tied to their walled garden.

Yeah, of course Dario and any other Anthropic spoke person will vastly exaggerate the capabilities of their product and promote vibe coding and now "loop engineering", just like Coca-Cola would love for you to drink gallons of Diet Coke everyday, just like Oracle some twenty ago promoted for Enterprises that they could just use Oracle Databases to serve web applications right from the DB, as this would force you to use more CPUs and Oracle DB is licensed by core.

The business model for inference is metered usage, more usage => mode money. Again, the subscription model is just a bump in the road to acquire customers, once you're metered, the more you use, the better for anthropic.

Why people get surprised with that stuff?

jelling•20m ago
> Why people get surprised with that stuff?

Whenever you don't understand how people can think things on the internet, consider that they might be younger than you. They may not be, but it makes the world far less rage inducing. None of us are born knowing everything.

lelanthran•10m ago
> Of course, Claude Code subscription is a loss leader, it is an offering built to create a market for a new product in a very competitive environment in the hopes of capturing a dominant market position with a fully validated product with a healthy demand from business.

I agree that this is their goal. The reason that people don't understand why Anthropic wont let the subscription be used with other harnesses is because they believe that this hope of Anthropic is just that: a hope.

I personally don't believe that a harness is a moat.

supermatt•27m ago
> Your Claude subscription—which is a cheaper version of the Anthropic API—is restricted to use with the Claude Code CLI/Desktop, Claude CoWork, or @Claude in Slack.

Thats not true at all. You can use the Agent SDK [1], which uses your subscription [2]. I use it via ACP [3] with custom system prompts and tooling. I have found it very powerful and flexible. It has its own agent loop, of course, so maybe thats the limitation using it with opencode?

[1] https://code.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk/overview

[2] They were talking about giving credits for the SDK usage rather than it using your allowance directly, but that seems to have been put on hold for now.

[3] there isn't an official ACP wrapper - zed have one but its quite limited. its trivial to build one though, or you can just use the SDK directly and wire it into your interface of choice.

haktan•23m ago
How do you use API keys with Claude subscription? I can't see any keys at claude.ai settings. Only panel I could find was behind another login and it didn't have a subscription option.
auspiv•17m ago
you don't. they are distinct entities. https://platform.claude.com -> api keys
Grombobulous•22m ago
I think this article is contradictory of the reality that Anthropic is picking up B2B marketshare like crazy, recently overtaking OpenAI.

I wouldn’t call Fable “enshittification.”

Anthropic knows what they have.

I’m looking around for the article with the marketshare chart over time and I’ll update my comment if I find it.

This is the closest article I could find, though the one I had read earlier had a nice graph and was updated to 2026:

https://chatforest.com/guides/anthropic-overtakes-openai-ent...

zeppelin_7•20m ago
Btw, they are also getting aggressive with bans. Furthermore the process to repeal is broken in the UI, and there is no way to get support
internet2000•20m ago
They're subsidizing their tokens as long as you use their software. That's a fair exchange, I never understood why people took issue with it.

If you don't want to get locked in to Claude Code, you can pay more. Just like you can pay more for an unlocked non-carrier subsidized phone. (Which I personally do.)

rvz•17m ago
> As of writing, Claude Code CLI only has around 9100 open Github issues, with small unresolved issues like it completely freezing for the last 6+ months or a screen flickering issue open for more than a year.

But surely those fully autonomous coding loops will solve all those 9,100+ open issues on GitHub? Why haven't they?

What happened to Claude's C Compiler [0], or that browser "built from scratch" by Cursor? [1]

Why aren't the agents maintaining it if they are supposed to be cheaper than humans?

> But why do they have us by the balls? Dario and Boris have us convinced that “coding is solved” with their loops. But microwaves didn’t solve cooking.

They have you by the balls if you allow them to, if you continue to listen to their bullshit.

Both of them are essentially salesmen at this point. They don't care if they are wrong and will sell Claude to whoever is thinking of planning the next mass layoff. Their definition of "AGI" is different to yours.

The correct answer to all of this pricing nonsense that Anthropic and others are doing is local open weight models that you run on your own machine. They know this and powerful local models undercut their entire business model if hosted by others or if a smaller local model matches the performance of larger ones.

[1] https://github.com/anthropics/claudes-c-compiler

[0] https://github.com/wilsonzlin/fastrender

khurs•15m ago
>But surely those fully autonomous coding loops will solve all those 9,100+ open issues on GitHub? Why haven't they?

Shhh, you may pop the bubble and cause the collapse of the US economy.

ngriffiths•12m ago
One way of reading this is an article about how good Anthropic's product is. "Look at how many serious flaws users have been willing to accept in order to keep using this thing"
m_ke•8m ago
Model is the product, people will put up with anything as long as you're on the pareto frontier of performance x cost.
skydhash•5m ago
Work as long as you’re the only one (or the few) in town. Nad giving it for free (or nearly free). I have Cursor and when I use it, I keep it to auto, never caring about which model I use.
delduca•6m ago
It was so good when it was possible to use Claude subscription on OpenCode.

Nowadays I went from Claude 20x to 5x and been using the GLM model on OpenCode... No regrets.

CodingJeebus•20m ago
Agreed, these types of posts often feel like they're missing the forest for the trees. Sure, migrate away from Claude and maybe that will provide some runway, but all of these companies are built on the same economic fundamentals that do not scale.

We are currently in the "$7/mo Netflix with all the good movies" era of AI that will leave and never return.

bakies•5m ago
At the very least the harness will be able to connect to non-OpenAI stuff as soon as the (if) the same thing happens. :)

I've already got it hooked up to local models if there's no viable hosted option.

hnlmorg•17m ago
Ahhh that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
NetOpWibby•16m ago
This is where I’m at. While I’d LOVE to have a powerful near-frontier model at home, I don’t have the extra funds necessary to purchase a tricked-out Mac Studio…and if I did, I’d pay off debts.

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