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Mesh LLM: distributed AI computing on iroh

https://www.iroh.computer/blog/mesh-llm
26•tionis•1h ago

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turtleyacht•1h ago
It sounds like iroh enables distributed compute without having to finangle custom hardware.
jmercouris•1h ago
I thought about this too, but the throughput over a network is incredibly slow. It’s not usable for interactive use.
darkpicnic•42m ago
cocompute.ai is already doing this really well.
SwellJoe•39m ago
Is it? I don't see anything on the website about splitting a model across multiple devices, only about putting local models on the internet, a wholly orthogonal problem (which is already easy with existing tools, since models use an http API).
darkpicnic•33m ago
Good point. I know cocompute is working on splitting, but it’s not there yet; I was referring to the round-robin delegation within a trusted pool. Mesh LLM looks great too!
dnoberon•38m ago
Cool, always good to have more in the ecosystem. I love Iroh and hope this continues to succeed.
SwellJoe•36m ago
I note the lack of performance information. I can only imagine it's much, much, slower than any other way to run a larger model (including, e.g. using system RAM and streaming some stuff from disk). Consumer networks, even 10gbit ethernet, are slow as hell compared to local RAM and even disks.

Are we talking 1 token per second for a split model? Less?

Edit: Found a number. On the models list, Qwen 235B A22B says "MoE 235B/22B, proven at 16 tok/s across 2 nodes". They don't say what the nodes are and what network connection they have, but that's a respectable speed. Not quite comfortable for interactive use, but pretty close.

woadwarrior01•21m ago
Perf should be fairly straightforward to ballpark. You'll need to transfer roughly 2 . hidden_size . num_shards bytes over the network per token during autoregressive decoding. And divide that number by chunk size during prefill.
darkpicnic•26m ago
Does Mesh LLM encrypt the payload between nodes? Is it possible to read requests from other users?
tekacs•7m ago
I'm not affiliated, but yes – the main 'point' of iroh is that it's 'dial-a-key', QUIC with encryption based on the keys of the endpoints.

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