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DeepSeek pause fundraise after comments on compute gap to US leaked (transcript) [pdf]

https://github.com/demo-zexuan/liang-wenfeng-investor-meeting-2026-7-22/blob/master/%E6%A2%81%E6%96%87%E9%94%8B%E6%8A%95%E8%B5%84%E8%80%85%E4%BA%A4%E6%B5%81%E4%BC%9A-%E6%96%87%E5%AD%97%E7%A8%BF_1_18_translate_20260723201651.pdf
24•oliculipolicula•1h ago

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PeterHolzwarth•44m ago
Article grabbed at random that provides some more context (tho could use more):

https://www.cyberkendra.com/2026/07/deepseek-pauses-fundrais...

"The Hangzhou AI lab has told prospective investors in its second fundraising round that it is suspending the deal, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg on Saturday, days after remarks attributed to founder Liang Wenfeng about US-China AI competition circulated widely online."

And:

"Tencent's technology outlet published a 118-item version covering AGI strategy, chip supply, pricing, and retention. In it, Liang reportedly framed China's disadvantage as an arithmetic problem rather than a talent one: "The biggest gap between us and the US is in resources.""

"The specifics were unusually candid. Liang is said to have told investors he needed 200,000 Huawei 950 chips to train a frontier model but received 16,000, adding that "Huawei's problem is still insufficient capacity" and expecting the crunch to last at least three years. He also floated narrowing the gap with US labs to three to six months using a fraction of their computing."

cyanydeez•34m ago
this bodes well for continuing to refine smaller models and open sourcing them.

There's a delusion that what America's AI companies are doing is "best"; the chinese should realize that the forefront is bloated and there's likely hundreds of speed ups viable. Pushing open weights will continue to grind down the bloat.

Aboutplants•5m ago
I was gonna say, this just puts more pressure to deliver ground breaking research with limited resources. And if history teaches us anything it’s that scarcity produces ingenuity.
credit_guy•43m ago
I think the way to parse the current title "DeepSeek pause fundraise after comments on compute gap to US leaked (transcript) [pdf]" is that there was a leak that DeepSeek will pause fundraising because they perceive there is a compute gap with the US.

I am also guessing that the majority of the people who read this title will think that DeepSeek is pausing this fundraising because some comments they made about the compute gap were leaked. That is not the case.

solarkraft•40m ago
Thank you! That is indeed how I read it.
culi•19m ago
Maybe: "Leaked Deepseek transcripts reveal plan to pause fundraising due to compute gap"

I don't know what "compute gap" means in this context though and it's not clear that that's why they plan to pause fundraising or if the title is conflating.

oliculipolicula•7m ago
I wanted to post this which explains the wording but I thought the transcript was more interesting. Sorry. Maybe mods can help me to put that as auxiliary link. I don't know how.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-25/deepseek-...

toomuchtodo•36m ago
Perhaps there is an opportunity for China to close the compute gap by renting compute from hyperscalers through a complex web of shell entities similarly to how the US procured titanium for the SR-71 during the Cold War.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/in-1960s-russia-sold-titaniu...

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/titanium-russia-was-s...

culi•8m ago
Trump reversed course on the NVIDIA ban. It's now China that is blocking their companies from buying NVIDIA chips. So the shell entities would be to get around Chinese, not USian restrictions
orbital-decay•19m ago
Everything in this transcript reads so very different from what megalomaniacs in charge of Anthropic/OAI have to say
culi•10m ago
> Objectively speaking, if I can spend two billion this year, it would indicate that our procurement department has achieved outstanding performance. The main gap between us and the United States lies in resources, while the disparity in personnel is minimal—there is virtually no difference, as we are essentially the same team of people, possibly from China.

> With the largest models available today, we simply cannot afford to train them

It seems they're largely talking about literally purchasing NVIDIA H200 chips. Important context is that Trump first started the trade war with China largely focusing on banning anything that could improve the Chinese domestic semiconductor industry. It was a blatant attempt to prevent China from progressing up the value chain to high tech. China's response is the reason they went from a miniscule player in EVs to the world's largest manufacturer (same for other high tech industries like LIDAR, solar, etc). In his second term, Trump blocked NVIDIA from selling chips to China. China again responded with astounding progress on their domestic semiconductor industry which led to Trump backing down on the ban. However, China shocked everyone by banning their own companies from buying NVIDIA in order to support the domestic semiconductor industry. Obviously China is still years away from EUV but it now produces most of its own >14nm chips and is rapidly growing

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DeepSeek pause fundraise after comments on compute gap to US leaked (transcript) [pdf]

https://github.com/demo-zexuan/liang-wenfeng-investor-meeting-2026-7-22/blob/master/%E6%A2%81%E6%...
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