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Residential Proxies Are a National Security Threat

https://jacob.gold/posts/residential-proxies-are-a-national-security-threat/
24•joshbetz•2h ago

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jayturley•56m ago
First heard about this through this podcast. https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/172/
macintux•32m ago
That’s a scary read.
Shank•54m ago
Citation needed? I'm not a fan of residential proxies but these are pretty wild claims that aren't substantiated. Calling them a "national security threat" implies it is a threat to e.g., the continued existence of the United States. Is it really that? All of the activities described are already violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

> At the very least, major American ISPs (Comcast, AT&T) should detect clearly suspicious activity coming from customer IPs and warn them to scan their computers, check their TV apps, and find whatever is turning their internet into a proxy.

What are we saying? Really, what are we saying? We should turn domestic ISPs into domestic surveillance apparatuses to "detect clearly suspicious activity"? What is "clearly suspicious activity"? Section 230 is still law.

cute_boi•44m ago
The router could also be a good place to display live TCP usage and last 30 days usage and other network activity. There should also be a service that can identify whether specific IP addresses belong to botnets or other malicious infrastructure. If there are any abnormal activity mobile app can notify the user.

Governments could even purchase residential proxies themselves and check whether they're being used for malicious activity.

It isn't that difficult, but I guess governments just aren't that interested.

advisedwang•53m ago
Relevant Darknet Diaries episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/172/

The interviewee seems pretty inept yet still managed to uncover something really interesting and nefarious.

yellow_lead•45m ago
No they aren't.

> Actual data and identity loss of American citizens.

> Malware that can record video and audio from infected devices.

> Infrastructure for foreign covert influence campaigns.

> Botnets used in hacking and DoS attacks

These things have existed for 20+ years. Bad but not exactly a national security threat.

cute_boi•43m ago
Yea, but with AI we also have seen unprecedented amount of hackings etc.. using these residential proxies. Now even normal plebs can do so much harm.
himata4113•38m ago
So it's okay for organized crime to do it, but not normal plebs? The former is obviously a lot more harmful and in reality this is just a wakeup call to get their shit together.

People were dismissive of security far too long. I think it's actually good that AI instills some fear into people causing it to take a lot more seriously than they have previously done so.

basilikum•27m ago
Mirai took out the internet in large parts of the US. The situation hasn't exactly improved since then.
anabis•43m ago
It's an anti-consumer evil practice, but if it is a national threat that's on the nation's security infra.
DANmode•29m ago
Does this take include, or exclude, DDOS?
mindslight•25m ago
They're also a wholly necessary endeavor until the surveillance industry stops discriminating against IP ranges with endless captcha nagwalls. That, including its next development of remote attestation, is a much deeper problem for Internet freedom and needs to be addressed first.
bofadeez•21m ago
Sounds like fear mongering to justify some kind of otherwise unpopular surveillance laws
brikym•16m ago
They have their problems but how else am I supposed to scrape data from companies that want to hide it?
alexspring•16m ago
Google propaganda. Botnet proxies, agreed. All residential proxies, dumb. Educate yourself: https://layer3intel.com/blog/measuring-the-netnut-takedown
iammrpayments•14m ago
Maybe IOT is the actual national security threat?
abofh•13m ago
Anonymous packets are a national security threat!
bharatsuthar•9m ago
If anonymous currencies can be considered a national security threat despite making up less than 0.001% of the world's total value, then why not anonymous packets?
ietcd•13m ago
internet is a security threat, tell other...
bharatsuthar•8m ago
The optimum amount of residential proxies are non-zero.

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