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The Valley of Webhooks

https://weli.dev/blog/the-valley-of-webhooks/
16•weli•1h ago

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hungryhobbit•44m ago
Dude is not wrong ... but good luck convincing the Internet to switch to a sane system, when everyone already thinks web hooks are a "solved problem".
Terr_•43m ago
The end here reminds me of "The Log: Real-time data's unifying abstraction" [0], which has unfortunately had a bit of link-rot since 2013.

One complication in this approach involves access-windows: What if my system is only supposed to be seeing stuff that happened during two separate weeks in the year, because those are the spans when it was subscribed or authorized?

So the data-host would need to maintain a concept of "connection history" for other services, and also use that to filter/modify its real event stream, inserting artificial "initial state" roll-ups of events that happened in dark periods.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6916557

zrail•41m ago
Webhooks are a painful problem. To clarify, Stripe's events API definitely ships a cursor and polling it has been the method preferred by large consumers for a long time.
zffr•40m ago
With webhooks, consumers get to asynchronously respond to updates from a provider. If no data has changed, a provider will not send any updates.

With SCROLL, consumers are responsible for choosing when to ask a provider for updates. Without a mechanism for knowing when data has changed, consumers will be forced to be pessimistic and poll providers for new data on some cadence.

I see two issues with the proposal: (1) SCROLL will lead to an increase in unnecessary network traffic for both the consumer and provider, and (2) because a consumer cannot know when data has changed, the lag between a consumer's local model and the provider's data model will be larger when with Webhooks.

lxgr•24m ago
Assuming you're not using the proposed streaming option, I suppose you could always send a webhook for that fact alone? In other words, an empty notification, with semantics of "something has probably changed, better poll the SCROLL if you aren't already".
inigyou•22m ago
If your API is just wrapping Kafka, it can long-poll
cobbzilla•3m ago
The proposed “feed” solution is functionally indistinguishable from incremental reconciliation.

The article presents a good framing and is well-written, but doesn’t really propose anything new.

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