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Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb

https://kuber.studio/blog/Reflections/Humanising-LLM-Outputs-is-Actually-Dumb
29•kuberwastaken•4h ago

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Xcelerate•47m ago
You ever read a work of literature with such flowery language that right after you've read a paragraph, you pause and realize you have no clue what you actually read, only to read the paragraph maybe a second or third time and have your mind space out again and again on each successive attempt?

Yeah, for me, that's what parsing huge volumes of LLM-produced text like "direct model calls as replaceable semantic workers" does to my brain. Maybe others don't really have this issue, but after any long output, I prompt the agent "Go back and decompress any LLM-speak in light of the higher level task goals. Eliminate deictic language."

The revised output documents are solely for my personal usage to expedite understanding. The LLMs can slowly converge on their own language for all I care; I retain raw agent output for future agent usage (to avoid the "lossy" problem the author mentions), but that doesn't eliminate the need for some intermediate translation I can use to actually help get my work done instead of spending hours attempting to understand what a "load-bearing pinned gate" is.

Havoc•44m ago
> The problem is that these instructions are not applied after the model has finished doing the work

Seems like something fixable with a simple two step process. Ask it the thing. Then ask it to summarise the answer in simpler terms. More tokens and time aside that would check both boxes

StyloBill•34m ago
Should be a harness feature actually.
kuberwastaken•24m ago
pretty much what I do, better yet ask it to boil it down in visuals in a simple webpage if it's a very large project
mikaeluman•29m ago
I don't get it. The skills and instruction try to make the answer more machine like on purpose.

Not humanising it...

People want the terse, matter-of-fact output. Not the conversational chatty verbose and bloated nonsense with gray words and jargon and terms like "blast radius"

alansaber•26m ago
The article lost me when it implied that verbose drivel is actually intrinsically superior rather than a way to hedge bets
alansaber•28m ago
Not sure what happened in the blog, but I quite enjoyed the mindmap in the right panel
kuberwastaken•26m ago
Thanks, I guess haha :P
spwa4•26m ago
TLDR: This is an argument to get LLMs to answer in short, even code-like statements because you can exchange information quicker with an LLM that way. Cool!
mdp2021•13m ago
Suppose you had an LLM (NN) producing its default output from an input (a generally optimal for-most-cases role-sys, and any role-user), and then you wanted to have that output reformatted in some style (e.g. "In iambic pentameter" | "haiku" | "eli5" | "in the style of Feynman" | "bulleted like Axios" ...). How would you keep the internal NN workings that were basis for the original output, and use them to get a rewritten version (instead of placing the original query and output in the context and ask to rewrite it)?

In other words, is there a way to keep the internal process intact up to the point of the formulation - and have only that vary.

7402•4m ago
I don't like it when the LLM tries to be my friend. My general prompt (a work in progress) is this. I wonder what other people use.

"Answer impersonally, objectively and analytically, without undue friendliness or enthusiasm. Use an engineering style response: concise, factual, and complete. Do not speak in the first person. Do not promote engagement or an emotional connection. Do not use emojis."

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