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GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

https://blog.roboflow.com/openai-gpt-5-6/
38•plurby•1h ago

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weli•37m ago
Anecdotal, opinion:

Gpt is really good in vision stuff, or at least their MoE seems to be really cohesive. From my experience Claude models can be really good at language but the moment they need to look at a picture and decide why the design is not good what parts need improvement it degrades a lot. My easiest benchmark is giving them a screenshot of a feature in my app and tell it "identify non-normative UI blocks and improve readability and consistency". Sol does a great job at re-structuring the page into composable units that build upon each other and the general looks and feels of the app. Claude tends to over-focus one one part while completely forgetting about the rest or the cohesion as a whole.

velcrovan•22m ago
Assessing the subjective quality of a thing is in my experience one of the worst ways to use any LLM.
rib3ye•18m ago
anthropic frontend-design skill does a great job with it.
rafram•3m ago
Have you actually read the frontend design skill? It’s placebo at best. Very short and barely focused on design: https://github.com/anthropics/skills/blob/main/skills/fronte...
DaiPlusPlus•20m ago
What is a "non-normative UI block"?
lelandfe•17m ago
areas that look weird
weli•11m ago
Segments of the UI that don't conform to any other existing established design or conventions
sscaryterry•33m ago
My anecdotal evidence says its still as blind as any other model, it has no taste, no attention to any sort of detail.
howdareme•31m ago
How can a vision model have taste?
sscaryterry•27m ago
Replace taste with consistent if that helps you. Can it follow a design system...
yreg•22m ago
As a design system engineer I usually have to fight against the taste of the designers. (And I consider it natural.)

But, if you have a proper well documented design system and you tell the LLM to use the DS and to avoid styling hacks they can generally do it. Even the dumber ones than Sol 5.6.

Of course only if the design is achievable in the design system.

sscaryterry•20m ago
This is not my experience at all.
velcrovan•21m ago
So, formulaic output…the opposite of taste
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Razengan•32m ago
For 2 weeks I've been trying to get Codex to "outpaint" a wonderful image it generated as placeholder art for a level background.

After I increased the game's resolution, I asked it to increase the image's size while keeping the same scale and existing content, and gosh, it constantly keeps getting something wrong no matter what I tell it, even on Sol Max with the $100 Pro subscription.

An average pixel-artist could have recreated the image and more within 2-3 days.

thatcat•28m ago
did you try segmenting it first?
sscaryterry•17m ago
> it constantly keeps getting something wrong no matter what I tell it

This 100%

kzrdude•28m ago
In the third vision bench result, Sol is 100% correct but the expected has 1 error. Seems like an oversight.

In the next bench, Sol looks like it’s correct again but the bboxes are rotated 90 degrees for some reason.

evrimoztamur•25m ago
Penny sample shown looks like failed EXIF orientation registered by the model/harness. The coins are correctly marked, it's rotated 90 degrees.
bob1029•16m ago
I've decided it's "good enough" after I saw it properly quote a string of text that was very roughly highlighted within a nested visual context. It also identified the context correctly (modal inside webapp inside screenshot of user desktop).
logicallee•12m ago
I agree. It did very well on an extremely challenging task.

I asked it to recognize and draw the very faint reflection of what I was wearing, visible in only a tiny black part of a very brightly lit poster behind glass.

In addition, the poster itself also happened to contain similar clothing.

You can see the reference images and its output in my writeup here: https://medium.com/@rviragh/gpt-5-6-sol-very-good-image-reco...

While a human can focus on the reflection easily, this is an enormous challenge for a vision model. It's very impressive.

iamniels•8m ago
I understand why you would like to use an LLM for vision. I do it myself often enough. I don't understand however, why the pill detection and counting is included in this benchmark. That is a task which you would perform with OpenCV right?

In my personal mini benchmark minicpm-v-4.6 scores amazingly well. Its a 0.8B model which runs fine on many consumer hardware.

5555watch•5m ago
All of your use cases are very advanced.

I recently used it at grocery stores in a foreign country. Photographed the whole aisle and told it to find Y (detergent, softener, glue, sour cream, whatever), at the same time recommend the best Y for whatever reason. Worked marvelously, including the cases where the object wasn't present and it told me there was nothing useful.

I asked then, can you crop the exact image of how does the item look like and where is it in the aisle - did that perfectly as well.

I will add that all frontier models were fine with such tasks from the early 2024's.

adroitboss•3m ago
I didn't expect Gemini 3.5 Flash to top basically every metric in this article.
iamleppert•3m ago
Where are the Qwen benchmarks in this? I would be more interesting to see how Qwen performs.
19m ago
Not really. Compliance with the letter of the law doesn't mean the intent is complied with.
sarreph•27m ago
If you're doing any kind of inference that is multi-modal and non-factual, opinions and biases will affect any kind of assessment of a visual that you provide to a model.

For example, a UI / UX professional being asked to appraise a website screenshot may determine that the image in question has "desirable" traits which are inherently not deterministically measurable. Such as, if the interface elements have strong information hierarchy, or if they are deemed to be "fashionable" with current UI trends.

DaiPlusPlus•18m ago
> if the interface elements have strong information hierarchy

...but that's an example of a UX/usability matter that can be assessed objectively and non-subjectively.

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