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CIA funding helped keep NeXT afloat in the 80s

https://www.wsj.com/tech/steve-jobs-apple-next-cia-161b65f9?st=NWWds1&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
50•EwanG•15h ago
https://archive.is/JfB5V

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rasz•11h ago
I dont know if im buying magic CPU upgrade story. CPU/FPU are soldered and non overclockable. Motorola didnt have a super beefed 68030 version, extra special 68882 fpu, nor faster pin compatible 56001. The only socket on board is for 56001 which was already fitted from factory.

Graphics from Intel is much more believable, probably something that later became Intel i860 based NeXTdimension. But that would push whole story a couple years since Intel i860 released mid 1989.

LargoLasskhyfv•8h ago
But they were rather uncomplicated, compared to the BGAed monsters we have now. Infrared heatguns and reflow ovens are nothing new. Neither is liquid cooling.
rasz•1h ago
The point is there were no chips to put on the Next Cube that would make it faster in 1988, and the whole system was designed and tuned for specific fixed clock so bus overclocking is also very unlikely.

The only possibility is April 1989 announcement of 50 MHz versions of 68030/68882 and Clock Doubler circuit running CPU/FPU fast only when its not touching the bus. Afaik to this day this is the only way to OC Nexts.

https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/nextstation-clock-doubler.4979...

https://web.archive.org/web/20190722120829/https://www.nextc...

But this still pushes whole thing to ~1990. Would NSA get 20000 highly binned CPUs before actual volume production? Then there is absolute lack of evidence of even one such system ever surviving, and stuff does survive despite being classified, like Tempest IBM 5170s.

dang•30m ago
[stub for offtopicness]

(we put the gift link above)

firefax•15h ago
ew paywall
EwanG•15h ago
https://archive.is/JfB5V
malshe•1h ago
Gift link: https://www.wsj.com/tech/steve-jobs-apple-next-cia-161b65f9?...
newsoftheday•25m ago
I worked at a federal contractor in the mid-1990's with one customer. They bought a ton of NeXT machines.
mrhottakes•24m ago
CIA funding helped keep a lot of industries afloat in the 20th century.
high_na_euv•5m ago
And somehow people freak out some bullshit about free market when there is gov intervention, even if it is reasonable
ParentiSoundSys•22m ago
> But why would Jobs, a child of the counterculture who had practiced Buddhism under a Zen master and cited taking LSD as a formative experience, tether his company’s future to spies?

That's a funny sentence to read when you know the actual history of LSD, how it was brought to and disseminated throughout the U.S., and the role it played in de-fanging the counterculture.

josefritzishere•21m ago
Steve Jobs was a Fed.
xhkkffbf•20m ago
The NSA bought plenty of the machines back then too. They weren't always the favorites of the staff who spent plenty of time with IBM mainframes.
Alien1Being•11m ago
Apple :

"In 2012, Apple joined the PRISM data collection program run by the National Security Agency (NSA)."

AliExpress runs silent WebAudio fingerprinting that breaks Bluetooth multipoint

https://blog.laserphile.com/2026/08/aliexpress-webpage-keeping-multipoint.html
464•emctech•5h ago•151 comments

Malicious Rust crate Arrayref runs a build-time payload

https://safedep.io/arrayref-proc-macro1-rust-build-time-malware/
202•abhisek•2h ago•147 comments

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241•simedw•3h ago•62 comments

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15•Bluestein•20m ago•3 comments

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104•encyclopedism•1d ago•18 comments

DiffusionGemma Technical Report

https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.00146
55•gmays•2h ago•9 comments

I like 'em thick: an apology to my English teachers

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20•Ariarule•1d ago•2 comments

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31•speckx•1h ago•15 comments

Every Model Cheats

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19•vga805•1h ago•6 comments

CIA funding helped keep NeXT afloat in the 80s

https://www.wsj.com/tech/steve-jobs-apple-next-cia-161b65f9?st=NWWds1&reflink=desktopwebshare_per...
53•EwanG•15h ago•15 comments

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https://github.com/runvendo/vendo
5•yousefh409•16m ago•0 comments

An elliptic curve of rank ≥ 30

https://elliptic-rank.icarm.cloud/curve/273
22•robinhouston•1h ago•8 comments

Xorg-Server 26.0.99.901

https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2026-August/003741.html
32•st_goliath•2h ago•4 comments

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1•timshell•3h ago

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194•visheshdembla•1d ago•51 comments

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20030825-00/?p=42803
302•luu•9h ago•106 comments

Git at any scale

https://cursor.com/blog/git-at-any-scale
95•meetpateltech•1d ago•7 comments

Double-double: 31 digits of precision without leaving the FPU

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8•iliketrains•3d ago•0 comments

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41•sohkamyung•2h ago•34 comments

Bun 1.4

https://bun.com/blog/bun-v1.4
99•meetpateltech•1h ago•36 comments

Nearly 1,400 live streams from Japan

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https://www.quantamagazine.org/theory-of-fluids-enters-the-21st-century-20260817/
36•librasteve•2d ago•2 comments

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https://zoneless.com
16•tinyprojects•1h ago•6 comments

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/07/01/us/america-ancestry-census-data-map.html
21•cckolon•3d ago•4 comments

Stop Anthropomorphizing Intermediate Tokens as Reasoning/Thinking Traces

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Stwipe Acquires OpenWouter

https://stwipe.com/
139•eatonphil•1h ago•18 comments

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https://research.google/blog/seeing-beyond-bmi-estimating-cardiometabolic-risk-with-smartphone-im...
42•leanderjanssen•4h ago•19 comments

Risk Engineering

https://risk-engineering.org/
55•throwaw12•5h ago•7 comments

CI jobs artifacts should not be difficult

https://deadsimpleci.sparrowhub.io/doc/job-artifacts
14•melezhik•2h ago•10 comments