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Nostr is an inclusive communication commons

https://nostr.org/
49•Bluestein•2d ago

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tolerance•2d ago
Nostr is in need of benevolent shills.
Bluestein•2d ago
Found this intro informative:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbt3jL1Ms0w

treyd•26m ago
The thing with Nostr is that the protocol spec expressly forbids relays from forwarding messages to each other.

What this means is that users trying to reach each other need to shotgun messages to many relays, or congregate around specific ones. User profile data will list the relays they listen on, but this suffers from the problem of sticky defaults and makes client authors the kingmakers.

There's lots of centralization pressures like this that the protocol maintainers don't have a good answer to. They tout the simplicity of the protocol, which is often a virtue, but they overdid it and made the protocol too simple to achieve its goals.

therein•19m ago
Well put, that's exactly what I think of Nostr as well.
mw888•6m ago
Nostr breaks down along the longstanding ambiguity around what 'decentralization' means.

In the literal sense, centralization leads to economies of scale and the alleviation of coordination issues. Those coordination issues are what make physically decentralized networks so complicated, inefficient and fractured. These networks usually just find ways to centralize despite.

People really want decentralization of power—let's just replace the word with a better word: accountability. One should be able to enjoy economies of scale (centralized infrastructure) but have the cryptographic mechanisms in place to ensure the infrastructure must reveal its use and abuse of power, and can be easily replaced.

Nostr, like most 'decentralized' tech will switch between the meanings of both. Either way, it fits the description above: a single relay can work well, multiple have awkward coordination. The sense it which it is accountable is only that it can be replaced, but network effects favor the largest, so that's a problem.

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