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Early 2000s were peak of humanity

https://lukaszkups.net/notes/early-2000s-were-peak-of-humanity/
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meerita•4h ago
I think the peak internet experience was blogging. When social networks and social media came along, the decline started happening fast, and I began to see it that way. I was genuinely excited when the iPhone 2G came out, but then that excitement faded, and I quit all social stuff. I still feel nostalgic for the early days of the internet, when people and communities were truly connected.
mdlxxv•3h ago
Ah, yes. 9/11. The "war on terror". "Peak of humanity", indeed.
mananaysiempre•47m ago
None of the sequelae of that have really improved since then, at least in the first world. The foundations of universal surveillance were being laid down, but it wasn’t yet feasible. Police (transport security, border patrol, potato, pot-ah-to) ruffling through your belongings had not yet been normalized. You could transact with cash. People largely still sort of believed that talking to your political opponents would lead to better outcomes than making them comply under threat of government violence or unemployment.

(Plenty of things sucked, don’t get me wrong, it’s just that a lot of the fallout from the “war on terror” was still in the upper atmosphere.)

ashleyn•1h ago
I kinda feel like many might be biased to view the era of their own youth as the peak of humanity.
vegnus•1h ago
Explain how there was "kind of" instant messengers. AIM had already been out for years at that point
kees99•59m ago
By year 2000, there were plenty "proprietary" messengers - yahoo, aim, icq, qq, and a bunch more. All of which were simple enough to reverse engineer, so Linux user could just install Gaim (later renamed Pidgin) and connect to most any of those.

What's more, there were already two open standards: SIP/SIMPLE, and newer XMPP.

mrkpdl•1h ago
I think I agree with the premise of this. I miss when there were limits on our time with the web each day. I miss not being expected to be up to speed. I really miss magazines. Etc. Windows XP/Panther felt capable enough.

If we could go back I think turn by turn navigation would be the hardest thing to give up.

comradesmith•45m ago
I actively avoid using navigation. If I’ve already been there once I’ll just try get there without it.

Sometimes I check the route on Google maps first to get an idea, then close it.

I think navigation is like a muscle and you’ve got to train it.

Though I do like rerouting depending on traffic conditions. I guess in some cities that would basically feel mandatory to use

vel0city•23m ago
> Though I do like rerouting depending on traffic conditions

This is the biggest reason why I'll use navigation even when I know almost a dozen different ways to go somewhere. Using navigation services, its easier to tell if its worth it today to take the toll roads someplace, or if I should really avoid that bridge today, or what not. Choosing the route blindly can sometimes make a difference of a half hour or $10+ of unnecessary tolls depending on the journeys I take.

giaour•56m ago
I don’t know the author’s age but suspect this is an entry in the “<my teenage years/early twenties> were the peak of humanity” genre.
bensyverson•47m ago
Every generation has their “good ole days.” Unfortunately the old days never were that good for people who were around at the time.
kypro•41m ago
You say that but people of a few different generations in my family all agree the late 90s / early 00s were amazing.

Some romanticise how things were in their childhood, but most would say that the late 90s / early 00s were objective a great time to be alive.

bryanlarsen•36m ago
The OP doesn't claim the it was the peak of humanity, the claim is much tighter than that: it was the perfect balance of technology usage.

Almost universally, any time closer to today is better for most people in most ways than a previous time. But there are exceptions -- prehistoric hunter/gatherer lifestyle is superior in several ways to the modern one, but the risk of dying early in a horrible way is high enough that it's not true overall.

Should we live more like cavemen in very constrained specific ways? Probably. Do we want to force 8 billion people to starve to death by returning to that life? Heck no.

Similar, there are likely small parts of the 2000's that are better than today. That doesn't mean the 2000's are the peak of humanity.

sph•5m ago
What is truly unfortunate is that if there was an objective way of looking at history, people would just dismiss it as "oh, shut up, it's just nostalgia."

So what if the early 2000s were, in fact, the peak of humanity? It doesn't seem so absurd when teenage people today rediscover 90s/2000s fashion and are nostalgic for an era they have never lived in. When I was a teenager in the 2000s I didn't give a rat's arse about the 80s, they felt old and stale and with terrible hairdos. Yet today young people yearn for the 00s aesthetic than whatever sanitised corporate hell we live in today.

kaon_2•52m ago
Indeed go ask anybody in China, India, North-Africa, or Eastern Europe. I am sure they will tell you things were better back then. Oh wait. Seems like the author never read Hans Rosling's Factfulness. Big recommendation for anyone out there who hasn't yet. If you have find yourself having a bleak outlook, this book is an antidote: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/34890015-factfulness
testing22321•48m ago
Agree 100%

One of the best books I’ve ever read, extremely enlightening.

TFNA•10m ago
Early 2000s in my corner of Eastern Europe (Romania) was a very optimistic time. Higher salaries for locally employed educated people were on the horizon, while there was also the ability to work seasonally abroad and make a good sum that could be invested back home. Infrastructure started to see improvement through EU funds.

In fact, it was a far more optimistic time than since about 2020, as soaring cost of food and going out means even privileged middle-class people are complaining, and infrastructure improvements have stagnated.

mdrzn•48m ago
I can't stand.

When people type like this.

New line after every dot.

Even when not necessary.

Ultra short sentences.

I guess it's "cool"?

2snakes•46m ago
Yimspeak.
cjs_ac•45m ago
I think it started on LinkedIn, where posts got more reach depending on how many users clicked the 'See More' expander link, so users who wanted to be 'Thought Leaders' were incentivised to present their banal ideas using as many newlines as possible.
swed420•7m ago
\n;dr
kypro•44m ago
This was how I learnt to write, as it's how I think.

I latter learnt in school that writing is only deemed correct when it's stylised into elaborate sentences structures that no human would use when thinking in their own heads.

If you're just trying to convey a thought I don't know why people care?

Could you not understand the point OP was making or something? In what way is this a less valid way of writing (aside from the fact it's not what's taught as correct in school?)

analognoise•26m ago
Is this satire? Please, lord Jesus, let this be satire.
stetrain•45m ago
> Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization, because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization, which is of course what this is all about.
TFNA•16m ago
I can't speak for others, but my own internal monologue is certainly not one-line LinkedIn-speak.
lylejantzi3rd•11m ago
It's how everyone with a smartphone learns how to write these days. Editing large blocks of text on a smartphone is still extremely annoying, so people get used to hitting send between every few words.

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