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EFF to Governor Newsom: Veto California's AB 1709

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/08/eff-gov-newsom-veto-californias-ab-1709
43•mdp2021•52m ago

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nickslaughter02•29m ago
Gavin Newsom the governor who signed the original OS level age-verification law?
elictronic•19m ago
Good to see the Social media companies eating feces instead of forcing everyone else to.
convolvatron•18m ago
it seems like this whole discussion, both the proposed law and EFFs full throated support for social media giants is getting lost in the weeds.

we used to have a small number of media outlets for structural reasons. and we were concerned enough about their ability to filter what everyone saw that we tried to pass some laws that's weren't very useful or effective

now that the structural barriers are gone, do we see a greater diversity of editorial decision making, a greater number of channels in which to learn about the world. we could easily have a world where every single person could parameterize their own agents or choose from sets of parameters to present customized views on the sea of information available.

instead we see a massive concentration of control. instead of trying to legislate the behavior of a company whose entire profit is based on manipulating the narrative we all see, shouldn't we be promoting alternatives? if we are going to legislate meta instead of picking one little aspect maybe demand instead that some of of the core functions like data and identity be open access?

baggachipz•17m ago
I agree that this is a very blunt instrument rife with terrible potential, but I don't know what could be done in its stead. The EFF makes excellent points, but in my view the social media algorithms do way more harm than good, especially for minors. What would be the more ideal solution here? Clearly we can't do nothing, and time is of the essence for the current generation.
SecretDreams•13m ago
Agreed entirely. They're really glossing over the harm parts. The vibe in this article feels like someone who used the internet in the 90s and 2000s when community was actually a thing. Maybe even early Facebook days when it was college level and newly released to the general public.

What was once genuinely helpful for society is, by and large, now doing more harm than good. So, unless these multibillion dollar companies seriously reform (which would hurt their bottom lines), I don't know what you'd do other than banning the product, much like what we did for cigarettes.

jjulius•11m ago
>They're really glossing over the harm parts.

Yeah, it's weird - the first couple of paragraphs feel a lot like, "... but FOMO!" is their argument against it.

nhinck3•11m ago
Ban smart phones for kids.
ulrikrasmussen•7m ago
Ban targeted advertising
deburo•16m ago
>particularly harming vulnerable youth and marginalized groups who often find safety in supportive online communities

This is debatable and may actually have a net negative effect on those groups. Not to say that this bill is desirable. Shouldn't they push for stronger/better/flexible parental controls in devices instead? Perhaps offering to set them up in OOTB experiences?

zer00eyz•14m ago
This whole argument makes me feel old.

This smacks of "satanic messages in metal made my kids kill themselves" and of the PMRC. Of a trailer getting burned down cause kids watched Bevis yell "fire" one too many times.

Our modern society has fucked up kids, and I wont argue that tech isnt an enabler. But the fact that kids ONLY lens into the world independent of their parents is their digital life is PART OF THE PROBLEM.

https://abcnews.com/GMA/Family/mom-arrested-after-son-report...

Go back to the 80's and 90's we had to tell parents to do their job: "I learned it by watching you dad" and "its 10pm do you know where your kids are" ads probably need a modern refresh.

"You have been scrolling for 30 minutes... Do you know what your kids are doing on line" PSA's should probably be a thing. I say this as a parent whos kids were raised with devices, and despise social media, and only use it begrudgingly.

red_admiral•11m ago
I'm afraid this reads like "we've not 100% proved that smoking causes cancer, so ..."

Is the science 100% settled? No. Is this the best possible way to regulate this? No. But it's sure better than the current state of things.

"laws such as A.B. 1709, as passed by the legislature, function as a ban on social media use for people under the age of 16"

That's not my reading of the bill, specifically 22683. (a) (2) on https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml...

"This subdivision does not prohibit a covered platform from permitting a user who is under 16 years of age to create or maintain an account on the covered platform if that user is not provided with any addictive feature"

They just need to take out the endless autoplaying shorts and other features that are, honestly, annoying in the first place. The main thing I would change here is that even adults must be provided with a setting to opt out of addictive features.

Would it destroy TikTok's business model? Maybe; maybe that's even a good thing.

akersten•8m ago
No, sometimes doing something really is worse than doing nothing.
akersten
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4m ago
> Clearly we can't do nothing,

Why is that so clear? I can think of hundreds of real daily problems I'd rather my legislators be focused on than deciding how old my kids have to be before they're allowed on some website.

I would like affordable groceries and public transport, not whatever this is.

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