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OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra on ARC-AGI-3

https://arcprize.org/blog/astra
51•vignesh_warar•1h ago

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yusufozkan•1h ago
what the hell is that score/cost curve lol
minimaxir•59m ago
DeepSeek v4 Flash recently had a similar "more reasoning is cheaper" curve. It's a fun counterintuition.
Phemist•24m ago
What is the intuition. Higher quality turns due to more reasoning results in significantly fewer turns taken?
Betelbuddy•45m ago
"For a cost comparison, during our controlled testing, human participants were paid $115 per 90-minute session, plus $5 per game completed. Participants attempted approximately nine games per session, roughly $12.78 per attempted game before bonuses.

Most of this fee pays for the participant’s time and willingness to take the test, rather than the energy their brain uses (a closer proxy to compare with AI). If we look at only the brain’s energy, and price it as electricity, the estimate drops to about 0.6 cents per session, or 0.067 cents per game attempted."

Well I dont know about all of you, but I am celebrating meat based humans...

LPisGood•24m ago
I think raw brain energy is not a fair comparison. Humans are not willing and able to serve requests at identical competence all hours of the day. You have to invest considerable resources to get a person to even do so for part of the day.
paxys•22m ago
Why are you making the assumption that a person's time is worthless? I'd argue that it is the single most valuable resource we all have.
piloto_ciego•31m ago
99.9% with the right harness? Ok, we're at AGI then.

Prediction:

We will now see the goalposts moved towards "well, a human costs less / is more efficient" - that will prevail for a few months until they come up with some other test that humans can do easily but is hard for the bots. This cycle will continue for ever and in 25 years, despite having hyper intelligent embodied robots or whatever, we'll still be arguing about if the singularity is here and if we're at AGI for the rest of my life most likely.

slopinthebag•28m ago
That’s because AGI, like a lot of terms, has no meaning besides what each individual subjectively projects onto it.
piloto_ciego•24m ago
I agree, like the average human isn't generally intelligent.

IMO, AGI is literally no different from ASI, though people think it is. Like, Imagine you have 1,000 generally intelligent humans working for you (which nobody is really) and you were to point them at your pet project. That would be amazing!

baal80spam•27m ago
> We will now see the goalposts moved

It's already happening :)

piloto_ciego•23m ago
Hilariously it is, I'm just reading more on this!
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dwohnitmok•20m ago
> Astra’s progress helps clarify which AI capabilities are out of reach and which questions remain open.

Okay. But I don't think this entire article at all explained which AI capabilities remain out of reach. Did I miss something? Other than "oh I guess it could still get even more superhuman on ARC-AGI-3 than it is?"

malfist•12m ago
Is solving a snake like puzzle game in the least number of moves really what defines intelligence?
GaggiX•10m ago
If you have never seen the game before probably.
27m ago
We were already there with Opus 5 -> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvidias-harness-hit-100-arc-a...
piloto_ciego•25m ago
I rest my case.
dgellow•23m ago
The goal moving is by design, that’s why they use something as ill defined as AGI

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