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Audacity 4.0

https://github.com/audacity/audacity/releases/tag/Audacity-4.0.0
199•ClydeN•1h ago

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dbcooper•1h ago
Release video looking at the new UI (Qt6 based):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQymidLYIM

skrebbel•58m ago
I usually hate product announce videos but this one is so concise and fast and to the point, I'm very impressed. Also wow the new UI looks delicious!
Aldipower•12m ago
Yeah, it is a hand-made video! Someone put actual work into it. :-) Results are speaking.
AbuAssar•57m ago
in the age of 500MB apps (thanks to electron); it is refreshing to see a sub-50MB app again.
mystifyingpoi•11m ago
Reaper install is 13 megs. I have no idea how is this possible today.
Mashimo•4m ago
Now that I look at it, why is the arm64 that much smaller then x86_64?

36 vs 47MB

pluc•54m ago
Audacity and Avidemux have allowed me to look much more skilled in media editing than I have any right to claim
ancientstraits•53m ago
I have been using Audacity 3 for making music with samples for a few years. And it sort of worked, but there were a lot of things that were inconvenient, like the project sometimes not saving, or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip.

I tried the Audacity 4 beta a while ago, and it seemed super clean and like it fixed a lot of stuff. I am pretty concerned about the encroaching audio.com things (even though they are completely optional), but I still think this Audacity version has promise. I especially like how you can drag clips to time-stretch them.

embedding-shape•15m ago
> or getting a "clicking" noise across clips that I had to remove by manually fading in/out each end of the clip

Are you sure this isn't just the typical "clip/crop a sample at the wrong moment, in the middle of a soundwave, and you'll get a pop/click"? This problem happens all across DAWs and hardware samplers and such, usually there is a way to "align to zero-crossings" when you wanna avoid it, or called something similar. I'd be surprised if Audacity didn't have that optionally since before, or that they didn't have it before but now with Audacity 4 it would suddenly be used automatically, that'd be somewhat strange too.

ramon156•53m ago
Love what Audacity has become, especially the new UI that does not look like it was forced through some scrum pipeline
the_other•39m ago
Eh? It looks exactly like it was put through a scrum pipeline.
_def•7m ago
While I agree tbf it could be much worse
a1o•52m ago
Looks great. I remember a company sort of bought it but afaict they didn’t monetize it. I don’t remember the strategy, or why it was acquired, does anyone recall it?
tomkarho•45m ago
They must have abandoned such plans (if they had any) when they got some backlash after they added telemetry features and half a dozen forks popped up overnight.
haunter•31m ago
They haven't

Just go the main homepage and there is a banner which leads you to buy the latest plugin

https://www.audacityteam.org/

But hontestly nothing wrong with that imo

> half a dozen forks popped up overnight

There is only one actively maintained fork https://tenacityaudio.org/

odo1242•42m ago
It’s the same company that bought MuseScore, they basically plan on monetizing it through plugins, audio samples, or optional cloud services (like MuseScore)
Lautzi•45m ago
I highly recommend this video [1] by the Head of Software at Muse who had a big part in the development of Audacity 4.0. Some great insights and really fun to watch!

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYM3TWf_G38

chrysoprace•43m ago
Beat me to it, I was just about to post this. It's a really cool breakdown of what goes into supporting and modernising such old open source software.
stevoski•40m ago
This video is simply excellent. Really shows the challenges involved.

His other videos are awesome too. He is an expert in making great software AND a great video creator.

vintermann•6m ago
Yes, Tantacrul. Pretty weird story, a composer and programmer who absolutely roasted the UIs of well known sheet music dinosaurs Finale and Sibelius in hilarious diss videos on YouTube. Then he conceded a bit reluctantly that Musescore was the better of the lot, but still had plenty of opinions on how it could be better.

So the guitar tabs website which had then recently acquired Musescore offered him a job. Not just a job, but basically to be boss of the whole thing. Then they bought audacity, staffpad and Hal Leonard too. Then they bought out their private equity backer.

I can't think of any other time something good has come out of a private equity roll-up. They haven't enshittified it (from my perspective as a user anyway). It seems in the end these people just loved music more than they loved money.

SMAAART•44m ago
I am sure that Suno would love to buy Audacity.
thuuuomas•36m ago
Why do you think that is?
basisword•7m ago
I imagine the backlash would kill it.
GaryBluto•37m ago
Very disappointed to see a program I remembered fondly for its native-feeling interface and functional, wholegrain feeling turned into whatever this is. It’s akin to a nutrient-rich home cooked meal being replaced with McDonald’s. I should’ve known it was doomed from the moment I saw an advertisement for their Discord chat room in the readme.
JosephRedfern•19m ago
This doesn't feel like very constructive feedback. Have you actually tried 4.0 yet, or were you too put off by the Discord link to proceed?

IMO Audacity has never been particularly native-feeling, and I don't buy the McDonalds analogy - this release is still lightweight. It'd be a fair comment if they'd e.g. move to Electron, but Qt 6 is hardly that.

tontonius•2m ago
open source apps can be insanely powerful (and free!) but a thing that keeps a lot of them from 'mainstream' adoption is simply the F-tier user experience

gimp had the same issue and i wouldnt be surprised if you also miss the old GTK UI?

making audacity feel like a modern app instead of a dusty relic isnt making it into McDonalds..

I for one applaud this upgrade -- its the polish it should have had years ago

jamius19•2m ago
Ah yes, the native looking interface that doesn't even properly scale on a 4k monitor! Good times!

God forbid someone actually improves a software!

drcongo•36m ago
Finally looks great!
Sophira•26m ago
How's the telemetry situation nowadays? I haven't been updating my copy for a while.
_def•7m ago
I just started the appimage - it asks you to login to the "cloud" but also offers a prominent skip button, and then asks if you want a telemetry UUID or not.
luckilydiscrete•22m ago
Whoa what a glow up!
sapiogram•10m ago
I hope app startup times have been improved, at some this regressed massively, from 0.5s to like 2s.
apercu•9m ago
I used Audacity decades ago (2006-2010) but when I stopped buying PCs I always found there was noise on a Mac so I switched to logic.

I always thought audacity was great, and still prefer its workflow to slow tools or logic. I haven’t ever tried Reaper however.

wconrm•8m ago
Love to see a winamp-era software evolving to this beauty. Enveloppes and UI colors looks like ableton in a good way.
oidar•7m ago
>> The following Audacity 3 features are not available in Audacity 4.0, but we're working on adding them in future releases.

Time Tracks Note/MIDI tracks Mixer Macro Manager and the scripting pipe VAMP and LADSPA plugin hosting Play-at-speed Sync-Lock and the old tool modes were replaced by the workflows described above.

>>Additionally, Audacity 4 ships with some missing exporting and rendering features, analyzers, and effects.

thinkingtoilet•7m ago
If anyone here has contributed to Audacity I just want to say thank you. I'm not a power user. I'm not in audio. However, over the years I have installed Audacity to do some audio things here and there. It has always been so useful.
basisword•6m ago
It's been many years since I used Audacity but the interface looks vastly improved.
_def•5m ago
Hopefully there will be a selfhostable implementation of their cloud counterpart someday? Maybe only a weekend of vibecoding away.

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