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Neo Emacs – Emacs from the Future

https://neomacs.org/
26•giancarlostoro•43m ago

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tommica•29m ago
Oh that looks so pretty! I've wanted an excuse to try out emacs in the first place, and this could be it!
bigfishrunning•15m ago
Please just try out traditional Emacs, I'm not sure this will paint a fair picture.
nine_k•24m ago
> Aiming for modern design, multi-threaded Elisp, 10x performance and 100% Emacs compatibility.

I'm afraid that 100% compatibility may be very often at odds with multi-threaded elisp. So much in Emacs depends on global state :-/

thih9•12m ago
Current status of the compatibility is[1]:

> ~95%, closing the last gaps

If coding with LLMs taught me anything, it’s that this last 5% can be “load-bearing”.

[1]: https://github.com/eval-exec/neomacs#status

grim_io•8m ago
That's where all the smoking guns are buried.
whois•23m ago
Interesting interesting. I'm huge into Emacs and have felt like Emacs has needed a Neovim sort of moment for a while now. A lot of the modern features you'd expect out of an IDE are bad and slow in Emacs rn due to threading and pretty core issues to Emacs (so I cope and say I don't need autocomplete).

But also suspicious of anything this AI generated which touts rust like this.

smy20011•21m ago
Seems fully vibe coded :(
pkghost•19m ago
"Emacs, rewritten in Rust — unleashed on the GPU, fixing what 40 years of C never could."
convolvatron•16m ago
general issues aside, for me one of the issues with emacs is that for historical reasons there is a cut between elisp and C that's really high up and pretty ragged. ideally a large composable lisp project like emacs would have a very accessible continuum between the surface and the underpinnings.

so I don't think one can achieve that by maintaining 100% compatibility. a much smaller base system build with better semantics that was notionally compatible would be something I would be really excited to contribute to.

cmrdporcupine•9m ago
Yeah, that's "lem" really. Though in that case it's Lisp all the way down apart from the native bits of the rendering layers.
quasarj•14m ago
I no longer see an issue with that, assuming it can be tested to prove it works. In this case, it's being tested (or well, claims to be) against real Emacs, which should be all that's needed.
otabdeveloper4•7m ago
> claims to be

Yes, quite the smoking gun of a load-bearing phrase.

veqq•20m ago
Why not... Lem?
vatsachak•18m ago
Watch demo button on the website doesn't work.

I mean gnu-emacs is already quite snappy in Wayland mode.

bigfishrunning•14m ago
the "performance" link at the top also doesn't lead anywhere...
royal__•18m ago
It's hard to take this seriously when it has wonky Claude website design. Rewriting emacs in Rust also feels like a nonsensical task.
vatsachak•12m ago
It's not nonsensical, but if you were writing emacs in rust, you hopefully would use a typed language instead of elisp
puszczyk•17m ago
the webpage fills vibecoded in the worst way tbh; i don't think that's attractive to the current gen of emacs users

maybe it targets net new users?

Svoka•17m ago
Does the "Watch Demo" button do anything?
chrysoprace•14m ago
With neovim's cult following I figured it was only a matter of time before somebody made a similar rewrite for Emacs, even if it does smell of vibe-coding based on the README.

I don't see any notes in the README about alternative scripting engines, elisp was always the main that turned me off from emacs. Does anybody know if they plan to add something like Lua?

jchw•11m ago
I've gone from being blown away by what LLMs could do with web design (I mean, it's impressive, especially what it does purely without vision...) to wishing it couldn't. Everything has become "same"y in a way that is hard to describe, kinda like AI generated images. Panda riding a unicorn? Impressive the first time. 1000 uncanny piss filter Pixar images later, you are begging for mediocrity to come back.

Not that the README is any better. It's just a long string of Claudisms. Fuck.

"Don't you ever get bored of pointing out that everything is AI slop?" Yes. I am very bored of pointing this out. I'll let you know when getting bored of it fixes the problem. I'm sorry if you think slop that will likely be unmaintained in a month and can be done even better by next month's model releases anyways is worth taking up a massive chunk of the HN frontpage forever, but I just don't agree.

EgregiousCube•9m ago
Appears to be further along than anybody's ever gotten with a multi-threaded emacs port. If that's what vibe coding gets us, three cheers for vibe coding!

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