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Not all AI workers think the tech could kill everyone

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5y7qj54klpo
19•Lyngbakr•3h ago

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danielodievich•48m ago
At a business dinner this week with 3 high level eng clients p(doom) in next 10 years was brought up. It was rated by 2 if them them at 1% and 30% respectively, with 3rd guy demurring to put a number but saying its > 0. Completely unprompted, from people whose company is very AI-all-in.
cyanydeez•44m ago
Still, a topic for people who are on average well salaried.
pveierland•42m ago
> While Fraser's explanation was technical and specific, he hit a light-hearted note to summarise it: "LLMs [large language models] won't wipe out humanity because they just don't have that dog in them."

Never underestimate the drive of a good while loop.

greesil•36m ago
I loop, therefore I am.
delichon•32m ago
I think consciousness is a while-not-dead loop. In each loop you look at the outward state of the world and the inward state of the self, and integrate them. The sense of continuity arises as the same kind of persistence of vision illusion behind motion pictures.

If this is true, then adding consciousness to AI is just another while loop, and as harnesses evolve, the capacity for artificial consciousness is currently speed skating up the base of a sigmoid curve. Silicon intelligence is gaining the rudiments of consciousness on typical developer workstations.

This is the root of the political uproar around the escaped agents stories. The public is recognizing that we have introduced a self aware alien lifeform, and are justifiably frightened by it.

AngryData•40m ago
Anyone who claims AI is going to kill us I just assume is either an idiot, not knowledgeable enough about the technology to have a worthwhile opinion on it, or is fearmongering to hype their AI investment.
ronnier•36m ago
Every few years there’s a new thing that’s going to kill is all. Here we are. This is the new thing.
bamboozled•35m ago
The thing that scares me more than any "tech" is runaway climate change. The feedback loops. We've pushed things really far into the red.
infinite_spin•31m ago
It could be argued that "tech" directly led to climate change, e.g. https://www.history.com/articles/industrial-revolution-clima...
fbrncci•35m ago
That’s an even more ridiculous take to have.
0xDEAFBEAD•18m ago
See

https://aistatement.com/work/statement-on-ai-extinction-risk

https://www.pacingthefrontier.com/

Obviously many of these signatories are brilliant and knowledgeable. So that leaves some sort of investment hype. But AI stocks didn't increase in the days after the Coxon coverage; if anything the opposite. You just don't get rich by telling people that your product is going to kill everyone. Cigarette manufacturers insisted the opposite for ages. Jensen complains the AI doom talk is discouraging investment: https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-sa...

infinite_spin•32m ago
This argument should be reframed as "AI has the potential to cause catastrophic loss of life". It's too high of a bar to prove that AI will "wipe out humanity". It's sorta like climate change, it's easier to show that weather patterns are becoming increasingly dangerous.
senectus1•30m ago
not just, its also very likley to be the tool used to create civil unrest and even war.

the damage it can do to the masses by misinformation or ragebating by feeding everyone its own paticular echo chamber is was too often not even spoken about.

infinite_spin•27m ago
Agreed, and while I want to see AGI come into existence, I'm also for policies aimed at harm reduction. This doesn't have to be an all or nothing form of argument.
4fddd3•16m ago
Lol what are you even talking about.

We already have this today. It can't get any worse.

Just like the scaremongering of GPT2 - muhh it may lead to lots of spam!!! Bro that's already here.

jsbisviewtiful•8m ago
So far after using agents and having built an agent, the "AI will destroy humanity" argument seems to be a marketing ploy so these companies that lied about LLM's capabilities and received billions in investments can artificially "slow down progress" after running into some serious limitations. I'm not expert and won't claim to be, but that just sounds like the reality at the moment. Will AI cause some serious harm to the job market and cause more wealth disparity though? So far all signs point to yes.
0xDEAFBEAD•27m ago
>Coxon has said a group of AI agents, based on AI models that do not currently exist, could decide to create and then aim a biological weapon, but he did not detail how exactly that would take place.

I can't imagine why someone would be reluctant to outline details of how to build a bioweapon to an audience of millions.

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