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How to save a life without knowing CPR

https://bookofjoe2.blogspot.com/2026/10/beyondthemedspeak-how-to-save-life.html
20•bookofjoe•3d ago

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advisedwang•45m ago
Are there any studies about the efficacy of this technique. Or even, you know, a reputable source for it?
advisedwang•36m ago
A bit of googling shows it is widely discussed and was once in CPR guidelines (but isn't any more). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34034775/ is a recent randomized trial that found no improvement.
ktallett•9m ago
Seems tricky to both give CPR and hold up their legs at the same time.
davidw•42m ago
Step 0: call 911 or whatever your country's equivalent is.
Ccecil•33m ago
That's what they taught us in Boy Scouts. Very first step is to get help.

Have someone call 911 (or whatever number in your country) immediately. If nobody is nearby start yelling.

Only one time in my life have I had to perform CPR (was already too late) but it is amazing how much of what I learned when I was 11 years old stuck with me.

Get help, check airway for obstructions...etc. Most importantly...take a CPR class sometime in your life and do what they say. The "ABC" of airway, breathing, circulation they taught us may not be current advice.

Sidenote: Don't be too hard on yourself if you don't save a life...even the pros say unless the patient is young/healthy you likely won't.

Edit: The feeling when the pros actually show up (in the case where I was doing CPR within minutes) is one of the biggest reliefs I have had in my life. Even knowing CPR...you feel helpless until they show up. And once they do ask immediately if they need you. If not...get out of the way.

ortusdux•14m ago
>The "ABC" of airway, breathing, circulation they taught us may not be current advice.

https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/resources/articles/abc...

Some experts believe that some situations may see better outcomes if circulation is prioritized over respiration. Most experts agree that it is still best to teach ABC.

groestl•33m ago
Step -1: touch somebody and tell them to call 911.
pockybum522•26m ago
I was taught "point at someone and tell them 'you, specifically, call 911'" but I like touch a lot better. Makes more sense for getting someone to actually do it.
thisisauserid•34m ago
Didn't read but bookmarked for later in case something happens and I need it.
e40•32m ago
It's absurdly short, recommend reading. However, I have no idea if it's correct.
ktallett•12m ago
Yeah I doubt you would look like someone who could be trusted with saving a life if you did this in an emergency scenario
ktallett•12m ago
Lay them down and hold their legs up.
whackernews•8m ago
Lol
kylecazar•3m ago
Fumbling through your bookmarks as someone lay dying
alexpotato•12m ago
A co-worker once went into cardiac arrest and, thankfully, survived due to another co-worker performing CPR. I held the affected co-worker's head while the CPR was being performed.

I write more about the whole process here: https://x.com/alexpotato/status/2094412327785316661

Some key takeaways:

- I had taken CPR many times before

- I watched the entire even unfold from watching co-worker walk in to seizure like symptoms to not breathing to urinating on themselves

- I essentially "froze"

- This was despite having years of working in high stress environments (sports tournaments/SRE on a trading floor)

- I was literally overcome by events and could not process what was happening (despite the prior training and dealing with outages etc etc)

I HIGHLY recommend that everyone, at a minimum, watch a video on how to perform CPR. Even better, take a class.

And even if you take a class, practice on a couch cushion every once in a while.

It's just like with 911:

there are stories of people in an emergency dialing 411 b/c they were overwhelmed.

In other words, fire drills exist for a reason and the same concept can be used for CPR.

ktallett•9m ago
Yes, I can help.

Why am I holding their legs in the air?

Well I read it on hacker news once.

Hacker news, oh it collates techy/stem blog posts and articles.

I don't know if the author of this post had any medical credentials.

I can see why it doesn't look like they knew what they were writing about.

dang•4m ago
Can you please follow the site guidelines when posting here, including these ones?

"Don't be snarky."

"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." (Edit: ok, maybe I was overinterpreting your comment on this bit.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If instead of posting this you had taken the time to click on https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=bookofjoe, you would already know that we worked for 38 years as a neurosurgical anesthesiologist.

iyonn•4m ago
I wonder how small or quantized would a llm have to be to hallucinate such a stupid thing
djoldman•7m ago
I had this directive as well.

I was told to point at someone and say, "YOU. Call 911."

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