I think even amongst the HN and Linux userbase, pop_os is still niche, let alone amongst normies who never heard about Linux. So they can afford take the high road and treat it like their personal sandbox accepting only human written code.
But larger and more important projects like Fedora and Debian are more realistic and pragmatic with the fact that they'll have to accept AI written(but human reviewed) code, if they wish to keep up with the real world development and threats, as expressed by Linus Torvalds himself.
The thing is, the cat's out of the bag on this one now, especially in the fields of pen-testing and reverse-engineering. AI can brute-force its way into projects in ways that beat experienced researchers, so your only choice to keep up is to accept the use of AI generated fixes as a counter defense.
I think a PR "in flight" shouldn't have been closed like that.
All this will do is push out developers like you that honestly disclose, and instead people will now just lie.
Are you in Python by chance? Python has a lot of crazy hidden/inexplicit/spooky action at a distance stuff (especially in the frameworks) that can make LLMs gunk up code by defensively programming or just burn context chasing data provenance
Faith is the problem. Extraordinary claims must stand up to scrutiny. They do not.
You build your OS atop thousands of open source packages, many of which contain AI generated code. Are you going to audit them one by one and remove offending packages? What about the ones you won't remove because the OS would be irreparably broken?
(I wasn't able to make it work on a scrap Dell I tried it on because the GPU was too old. Booted the USB key and COSMIC greeter failed to start)
1) Firstly, surce? My research according to Google Gemini 3.8 Pro shows top 5 DEs are as follows:
+---+---------------+------------+-------------------------------------+
| # | Environment | Est. Share | Primary Ecosystem / Defaults |
+---+---------------+------------+-------------------------------------+
| 1 | GNOME | 45% - 50% | Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, RHEL |
| 2 | KDE Plasma | 25% - 30% | SteamOS, openSUSE, Kubuntu, Manjaro |
| 3 | Cinnamon | 8% - 12% | Linux Mint flagship |
| 4 | Xfce | 6% - 9% | MX Linux, Xubuntu, low-spec PCs |
| 5 | MATE | 2% - 4% | Ubuntu MATE, Mint MATE (GNOME 2) |
| - | Others / WMs | 3% - 5% | Hyprland, i3, Sway, LXQt, Budgie |
+---+---------------+------------+-------------------------------------+
2) Secondly, keep in mind that distrowatch is not representative of linux userbase. MX-Linux kept showing up at the top spot for many years despite being niche.3) And thirdly, TOP 5 DE isn't really an achievement when Linux DE market share is overwhelmingly dominated by KDE Plasma and Gnome as the majority shareholders, with XFCE and Cinnamon trailing. So Cosmic DE if it somehow made the no. 5 spot, would still be ignorable sub <1% market share, as I initially claimed, basically invisible to bad actors.
That is such a weird statement that I am not entirely certain where to begin. PopOS is hardly niche. Its base are all fairly common components by linux standards. And, more importantly, attackers and bad actors may other considerations in mind than sheer population size -- just to point out the glaringly obvious.
<< I think even amongst the HN and Linux userbase, pop_os is still niche
I think rather than trying to disprove it, I think I should ask why you think that? If anything, PopOS annoys me because it is just a step before ubuntu ( and ubuntu is just windows at this point ). Maybe I am defensive, because my first real distribution ( that did not share disk with windows was popos )?
Reminder that AI is quite stupid.
zzzeek•1h ago
nonethewiser•58m ago
Which is why LLM PRs should just be issues (if there isn’t one already). Make the issue author a co-author on the PR. But let the maintainer actually oversee the LLM generated solution.
api•50m ago
So basically you're saying you reject drive-by PRs.
whateveracct•34m ago
nicoburns•11m ago
My repos probably don't see as much traffic as SQLAlchemy though.
baq•2m ago