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I posted to HN, and then my website was flooded with AI bot traffic

https://www.sammystraus.com/#i-posted-to-hn-and-then-my-website-was-flooded-with-ai-bot-traffic
41•sammy0910•1h ago

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ben_w•47m ago
It's too late to comment on your older posts, but I'd just like to say: it's nice to see someone making oldschool web browsers work properly on the modern web.

https://www.sammystraus.com/#using-llms-to-make-the-emacs-we...

sammy0910•22m ago
:) ive been dreaming of a usable emacs browser for so long
vanschelven•32m ago
I _also_ posted to HN and made it to #1[0]; the effect this had on my CPU/network traffic on a 5/EUR month VPS over at Hetzner was in the single digit percentages.

As per the wiki page for the C10k problem[1] where it says "_was_ [emphasis mine] the problem of optimizing computer networking stacks to handle a large number of clients at the same time". This was solved over a decade ago...

Now get off my lawn!

(TBF I think the author acknowledges this)

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43725815

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C10k_problem

dboreham•14m ago
The c10k problem is a different problem. It relates to simultaneous open TCP connections at a server. It would take a very very large number of crawler bots to force open 10k connections, I suspect.
bix6•32m ago
> one specific user. I won't name names

Who is?!

sammy0910•19m ago
haha im not naming names
nekusar•11m ago
You shouldnt defend bad actors and abusers. Hiding them is tantamount to them attacking others indiscriminately. Cause youre not the first victim, and definitely not the last.

You see something, you say something, or you do something.

spiderfarmer•20m ago
Try posting something viral on Mastodon. The logs clearly show that it isn't the most efficient social network.
oneeyedpigeon•13m ago
What confused me most about this is that the entire site is, apparently, a single page (there's no sitemap that I can use to verify this; there IS an RSS file which appears to confirm it) containing all posts. Links at the top (headed "Table of Contents") are all in-page links.

At first, I assumed this was a single blog post, especially with a "Table of Contents" at the top. I guess it's following some old-school blogging conventions, but AFAICR, even those sites retained individual pages for separate posts.

sammy0910•7m ago
it's org-html-export-to-html babyyy lmao
sammy0910•3m ago
I think I could improve the format a bit with something like Jekyll, but I haven't had a good chunk of time to sit down and work on it
switz•11m ago
There is so much spam, abuse, and aggressive scraping that I've had to block:

  - AWS
  - Google Cloud
  - Azure
  - Alibaba Cloud
  - Oracle
and a handful of other ASNs on almost all of my properties. It would be one thing if it was simple scraping, but it's often genuine agentic abuse (just spamming for vulnerabilities* or scraping millions of pages with very little valuable or dynamic content). These clouds must get the abuse happening under their own roof under control.

I banned Alibaba's Cloud two years ago and it still hits one of my domains 1 million times per day, despite every route 4xx-ing during that time.

Even Apple has aggressively ramped up its scraping in the past few months, but thankfully they do respect robots.txt.

It's frustrating because some of my real users route through these clouds via their work VPNs.

* like leaked .env routes, brute forcing admin panels, and so on

paaloeye•7m ago
Have you tried dealing with bots using CF Turnstile? Ref: https://www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/
sammy0910•1m ago
not yet, but I think something like this would be a next step
ChrisMarshallNY•4m ago
Heh. I posted a GitHub project Show HN, a couple of days ago, and it never even made it out of new, but it got me some bots.

That's a big reason that I never post any of my apps here.

Welcome to hell, kid...

janalsncm•3m ago
Ok, on the one hand to have one bot hitting your website to populate some kind of slop newsletter is pretty annoying.

On the other hand, “multiple times per minute” doesn’t seem that high? Even if it was 60x per min that’s fully within the limits of what a 2015 laptop in the closet can handle.

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