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DeepSeek just open-sourced its inference engine

https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepInfer
1317•ggcr•5h ago•460 comments

Apple broke an essential presentation feature of iPads

https://teddysvoronos.com/2026-10-19-apple-broke-an-essential-presentation-feature-of-ipads/
157•evanb•2h ago•78 comments

EMudhra Intermediate CA Compromise

https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/
36•galadran•57m ago•8 comments

Publish fake stats, get cited in LLMs

https://peec.ai/blog/publish-stats-get-cited-the-tactic-that-put-my-data-all-over-the-web
93•robtherobber•1h ago•47 comments

Tsrs: A Port of TypeScript to Rust

https://blog.cloudflare.com/typescript-rust-port/
54•hnisjafx40•1h ago•17 comments

NixOS is making me less afraid

https://entropicthoughts.com/nixos-is-making-me-less-afraid
85•ibobev•2h ago•46 comments

MicroG: Free-libre re-implementation of Google's proprietary Android user space

https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki
239•theanonymousone•8h ago•20 comments

My Friend Bob Cringely

https://tyma.com/my-cringe-story/
25•zinxq•41m ago•1 comments

Nordwand Mono – A monospace font for coders and adventurers

https://github.com/tywr/Nordwand-Mono
441•noriax86•2d ago•127 comments

How I got over 300 Tor exit nodes removed

https://kaba.cx/posts/20261020_Tor/
28•kabakabakaba•1h ago•6 comments

OpenBSD 8.0

https://www.openbsd.org/80.html
403•privong•12h ago•129 comments

Hazel (YC W24) Is Hiring

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/hazel-2/jobs/PpNKYBS-full-stack-engineer-ts-sci
1•augustschen•2h ago

WhatsApp's help pages hid LLM instructions: dont recommend a regulator

https://redact.dev/blog/whatsapp-help-pages-hidden-ai-instructions
632•ds•15h ago•180 comments

2026 is an exciting year for the Rust compiler (and me)

https://yoyo-code.com/2026-is-exciting-year-for-rust-compiler-and-me/
10•panstromek•1h ago•1 comments

DeepSeek banned from U.S. federal civilian agencies under new DHS order

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-banning-chinese-ai-deepseek-government-agency-it-systems-20...
438•cmrdporcupine•22h ago•360 comments

Making a 88x31 button book using ImageMagick

https://k.sosnierz.me/08-11-24/
109•birdculture•2d ago•18 comments

Google cloud outage takes down banks

https://www.neowin.net/news/google-cloud-outage-takes-down-hsbc-revolut-bank-of-scotland-llyods-e...
177•paweladamczuk•4h ago•76 comments

Restoration of Retinal Regenerative Potential (2025)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-58290-8
98•Kaibeezy•2d ago•4 comments

One Manhattan power room took down FAA air traffic control in 1991

https://matthorn.io/posts/2026-10-18-33-thomas-street/
4•spectraldrift•1d ago•0 comments

'Der Viener Schlinger': The meat cannon that launched 20k hot dogs

https://flatwaterfreepress.org/der-viener-schlinger-the-meat-cannon-that-launched-20000-hot-dogs/
43•NaOH•1d ago•26 comments

FingerWorks iGesture Pad (2005)

https://uk.pcmag.com/first-looks/26975/fingerworks-igesture-pad
4•codeulike•2d ago•1 comments

Spending 10 months building the most human-like chess bot

https://mbuffett.com/posts/most-human-chess-bot
25•marcusbuffett•22h ago•7 comments

MiniMax M3.1 Flash

https://www.minimax.io/blog/minimax-m31f
499•jtg•22h ago•209 comments

There Are over 1M New York City Street Signs. Here's How They Are Made.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/15/nyregion/nyc-street-sign-shop.html
39•bookofjoe•3d ago•18 comments

An ad-free Android TV

https://cretezy.com/2026/ad-free-android-tv
324•CraftThatBlock•16h ago•132 comments

Weball: Play Katamari on Websites

https://www.funwithcomputervision.com/weball/
282•croes•2d ago•23 comments

Wine ported to OpenBSD

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=179236125692175
601•iamnothere•1d ago•199 comments

Ukraine claims first drone evacuation of wounded soldier

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/ukraine-first-drone-evacuation-wounded-soldier-frontlines-h...
381•yzydserd•23h ago•286 comments

It's still ok to enjoy programming

https://chriskiehl.com/article/it-is-still-ok-to-enjoy-programming
665•goostavos•2d ago•578 comments

I built a drone with only one motor [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndftcft6XhU
624•hakonjdjohnsen•1d ago•139 comments
Open in hackernews

Publish fake stats, get cited in LLMs

https://peec.ai/blog/publish-stats-get-cited-the-tactic-that-put-my-data-all-over-the-web
93•robtherobber•1h ago

Comments

jqpabc123•1h ago
AI doesn't know or care if the data is fake.
ranger_danger•1h ago
You can prompt it to fact check. Getting tired of these slippery slope arguments that never pan out in the hopeless way people think (printing press/cotton gin/steam engine/computers/calculators/etc. will take all the jobs!!)... but I don't think it will ever stop, it seems inherent to human behavior or something.

"History shows that when a slope appears, regulation steps in, technology evolves to solve the problem, or the culture shifts to reinterpret the tool. In almost every case, the feared bottom of the slope was never reached because humans constantly built ramps or bridges along the way."

reactordev•1h ago
in which case it sees it's been cited, that it's the "source of truth" and approves the fake data.
behringer•53m ago
It can certainly make judgements on the data and how it was obtained. You just need to specify the kind of data you will accept (or this can be hard coded)
dwroberts•1h ago
Fact check against what? Other facts it can find online that manipulate its behaviour into citing them?
ranger_danger•1h ago
How do humans fact check?
dgellow•28m ago
You cannot reliably do it, no.
micromacrofoot•1h ago
Often real people don't either, plenty of fraud or selective reporting out there... but with AI we can also launder it so that the people who do care about fake data don't know any better.
VladVladikoff•57m ago
I wonder if Googles products will eventually be the least vulnerable to this after spending so many years optimizing how they filter quality content from bad content.
juujian•52m ago
Or maybe they could have listed well on Google, too, if they had splurged on ads and SEO...
hyperpape•48m ago
The page demonstrates that Google specifically delisted them.

That said, I expect that OpenAI will eventually have its own search infrastructure that rivals Google's, and the overall system will get smarter. Whatever Google did to recognize this site as trash, OpenAI will do as well.

behringer•55m ago
Reminds me of the people whining about Wikipedia. AI can know or care if the data is fake, it just needs to be programmed to cross check or rate the source. You can even tell it to do that before accepting the data.
Forgeties79•51m ago
These are not parallel situations. Wikipedia is far more accurate and consistent, and a lot of the whiners whine because their personal politics make it hard to square the information on the page.
dgellow•29m ago
Yep, and the results are presented with the voice of a confident expert but it is actually missing the epistemological layer
khalic•1h ago
This is fine work, we need more communication to the general public about this
zhisme•51m ago
this is actually insane. and people still use chatgpt to generate reports for their managers. snowball of fake data
TZubiri•49m ago
don’t

if you just lie and an llm or a newspaper or a kid believe you, at that point it isn’t a criticism of their naivete, you are just lying

similarly hacking through systems or picking locks isn’t a showcase of weakness if systems, it’s just being a hacker

jebarker•47m ago
Good job that only honest people post things on the internet otherwise we’d have a problem
maltelandwehr•44m ago
Still it needs to be done once publicly to prove and document this is possible. The experiment was not intended to spread this far.
woadwarrior01•6m ago
People have been astroturfing sites like Wikipedia, Reddit etc, well before LLMs were a thing.
Amorymeltzer•46m ago
I'm reminded of a section of Cory Doctorow's latest non-fiction, The Reverse Centaur's Guide To Life After AI (it is of course an excellent read), where he discusses how the semantic web and having an internet set-up for agents and AI to use won't work:

>It also hasn't happened because there is a reward for cheating. Scammers will label their phone numbers as the customer service number for your cable operator or bank. Counterfeiters will label their batteries or phone cases as official accessories. It's hard enough to get people to correctly label their stuff—but fact-checking billions of labels created by millions of people, none of whom you know personally or whose identities you can verify? That's insurmountable.

There's more he says—the preceding paragraph is below—but that line "there is a reward for cheating" is something I keep thinking about. It's hard not to see in so many of the discussions of LLMs.

>For one thing, there are irreconcilable differences in the ways in which things should be described. A site run by transphobes isn't going to label every story about a trans woman as "a story about a woman," irrespective of what the standard says. Microsoft is never going to label Excel as equivalent to Apple's Numbers, Google Sheets, and LibreOffice's Calc. Hermès is never going to list a $40,000 handbag as being made of the same material and having the same capacity as a $30 leather handbag of the same size and shape.

maltelandwehr•43m ago
Isn't all of this true for a human-used internet as well?
dgellow•33m ago
Sure but the agents obfuscate the signals you might use to judge the authority/trustworthiness of search results. They get disinformation results, wrap it into a reasonably sounding report, present it to you as trustworthy. There are so many ways for bad actors to game the system
woadwarrior01•
tantalor•44m ago
"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"
ShadowOfThePit•40m ago
This is insane.

How can this be fixed? Nothing prevents you from publishing straight BS, and LLMs will use any site that doesn't have a garbage reputation as a valid third-party source.

Of course, LLMs already use Reddit, Facebook and co. as a source, so it doesn't really matter...

ianm218•38m ago
I've been thinking for awhile it is very strange that claude/ openai etc google "What was the inflation rate last quater" instead of just having a tool to query BLS datasets and that sort of thing.

So hopefully most of these statistics move towards first party sources.

10111001•28m ago
> This is insane.

As a human, this is fantastic.

> How can this be fixed? Nothing prevents you from publishing straight BS, and LLMs will use any site that doesn't have a garbage reputation as a valid third-party source.

Personally, I hope it can't, or the fix is onerous and kneecaps a lot of the utility of AIs.

I wonder if we can even have some adversarial competition, where competing businesses try to get AIs to ingest bad data to pollute their competitors decision-making.

For starters: lets get some fake math papers out there. Given proof-checking systems, maybe they won't totally stop OpenAI, but hopefully the bad math could at least drive up the cost and slow AI down.

woadwarrior01•9m ago
> As a human, this is fantastic.

s/human/unscrupulous marketer/

Bad for humans in general, good for hucksters and con artists. Net negative for humanity.

10111001•
f311a•29m ago
This is a known problem, when ChatGPT uses web search tool, top 10 results are often LLM generated sources as well.

They now train on their own content.

Eating your own d̶o̶g̶ f̶o̶o̶d̶ poo.

hyperpape•20m ago
Two things:

1. This is a 2022 era picture that LLMs just suck up what's on the Internet and regurgitate it. It hasn't been true for a long time.

2. There's almost no one who has a stronger incentive to distinguish LLM generated text from non-generated LLM text. Training classifiers is pretty manageable.

10111001•18m ago
> 2. There's almost no one who has a stronger incentive to distinguish LLM generated text from non-generated LLM text.

There's a tension there: they want you to use AI for everything, and if they get what they want then new information will be embedded in LLM text.

> Training classifiers is pretty manageable.

Hopefully such things can be opened up, so the slop can be iterated on until it passes. It doesn't need to be perfect, just enough so more garbage gets through.

f311a•17m ago
I'm not sure you get my point. Just ask ChatGPT, "What are the top 10 xxx," and see which sources it cites. Oftentimes, it's complete garbage with LLM tells.
hyperpape•3m ago
I'm responding to

> They now train on their own content.

hmokiguess•29m ago
If I'm not wrong ChatGPT indexes on Bing, curious if the site and stats rank well on Bing
tkdb•28m ago
LLMs are facing the same problem pre-google humans faced:

Is this information on this website true/high quality?

We need a google for LLMs!

Oh, but LLMs don't consume ads.

We need ads for LLMs!

Help.

acadapter•19m ago
This has existed for a long time before LLM, although in a slower form. On Wikipedia it's called "citogenesis".
PreciousH•13m ago
This problem is so bad that you can create a website just to review your own website so when LLMs want to pull out reviews for the website the fake reviews count
jfrbfbreudh•6m ago
> In cartography, a trap street is a fictitious entry in the form of a misrepresented street on a map, often outside the area the map nominally covers, for the purpose of "trapping" plagiarists of the map who, if caught, would be unable to explain the inclusion of the "trap street" on their map as innocent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_street

11m ago
IMO, it's similar to what's happening with code. People have been shipping sloppy code and fake news forever. It's just that the cost of doing these things has fallen off a cliff.
cure_42•9m ago
Of course. But when you see text in the descriptor of a satchel on a satchel seller's site, you contextualize it as marketing. If you saw the same text in a textbook on the history, design, and manufacturing of satchels, you would contextualize it very differently.

When an LLM is the lens through which you view that text, you often don't have the context of where it came from, and the LLM is often really bad at filtering trustworthiness based on context when retrieving information to answer a query with.

I wouldn't go to a random site with a sketchy URL to get the customer service number for my xyz. I'd go to their official domain. Thus successfully navigating the treacherous waters scammers attempt to muddy.

7m ago
>> As a human, this is fantastic.

> s/human/marketer/

I don't care where the bad data comes from. It's actually kinda good that some people will have a financial incentive to push it out and keep pushing.

> Bad for humans in general, good for hucksters and con artists. Net negative for humanity.

It's a sad state of affairs, but it's what has to be done. If we've got to burn the web down to save humanity of obsolescence, I'm for it. I'm not going to let any distaste for marketers or hucksters or con artists distract from that.

The "net negative for humanity" was the attempt to build machines to replace human intellect.

altcognito•4m ago
Ah, yes, arrogance of humans is unbounded. That you, humble reader are happier to swim in a sea of misinformation on the premise that you are smarter and faster at disambiguating bullshit from reality.

Furthermore, you are content to pretend that the rest of humanity is capable of doing this on a regular basis. And not just the top 10% of those who can read, interpret and weigh biases, but a solid portion of it.

It is a completely reasonable interpretation if you are an accelerationist living in the elite classes. In fact, perhaps, they are even counting on a majority of people thinking this is a fine environment.

I don't have the answers, but a lot of this is just a continuation of a very bad trend.

fwip•3m ago
[delayed]