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Mistral Large 4 (Le Chonk) is now Open Weight

https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-4-oss/
400•kuberwastaken•1h ago•96 comments

DoorDash is acquiring Instacart for $17B

https://about.doordash.com/en-us/news/doordash-to-acquire-instacart
98•DeepLogin•1h ago•70 comments

Read the letter the FBI sent MLK to try to convince him to kill himself (2014)

https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter
307•surprisetalk•2h ago•194 comments

Gemini 4 Carbon is the new #1 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v5

https://artificialanalysis.ai/articles/gemini-4-carbon-new-number-1
248•theHocineSaad•3h ago•194 comments

Only 40% of AI-cited statistics trace back to a study

https://trakkr.ai/trakkr-research/zombie-stats
20•mektrik•50m ago•2 comments

Chained PHP2Shell Exploit Roots 25 Servers, Including US Government Servers

https://dreamgroup.com/blog/chained-php2shell-exploit-roots-25-servers
116•882542F3884314B•5h ago•53 comments

Qwenputer: A functioning, deterministic RISC-V CPU inside Qwen3.5

https://divagr.com/blog/qwenputer
635•csmantle•15h ago•133 comments

Java's new AOT cache feature is in a rough state

https://xpipe.io/blog/java-aot-cache
42•theanonymousone•3d ago•15 comments

Zero click, silent, remote Android DoS

https://smsofdeath.com/
247•MarkBlah•8h ago•125 comments

Finland investigate Google over destruction of 250k trees

https://yle.fi/a/74-20254086
68•DeepLogin•59m ago•48 comments

Why is this fingerprinting script creating bioweapons?

https://nullpt.rs/fingerprinting-bioweapons
1469•hazebooth•22h ago•273 comments

Google determines the names for bodies of water in Google Earth (2008)

https://publicpolicy.googleblog.com/2008/04/how-google-determines-names-for-bodies.html
146•terminalbraid•4h ago•116 comments

Keplearn: Extract Equations from Data in Seconds

https://github.com/owls-on-wires/keplearn
13•owls-on-wires•1h ago•0 comments

Getting debug access on a Brother printer over Telnet

https://inventor7777.github.io/blog/2026/10/22/debug-access-on-brother/
138•inventor7777•3d ago•40 comments

The US added a record 20.2 GWh of battery storage in just 3 months

https://electrek.co/2026/08/31/the-us-added-a-record-20-2-gwh-of-battery-storage-in-just-3-months/
209•ljf•5h ago•137 comments

Hackers expose the identities of more than 40k DHS employees

https://text.npr.org/nx-s1-6021497
169•firefax•3h ago•31 comments

Why are good developers so wary of agentic development?

https://martinfowler.com/rachels-ramblings/good-devs-wary.html
10•torutofu•1h ago•2 comments

Forging a Microsoft Edge Full Chain with Logic Bugs Only

https://blog.orange.tw/posts/2026-10-the-last-proof-of-human-craft-browser-full-chain/
189•austinallegro•9h ago•35 comments

Two RTX 5090 hosts sharing a KV cache over Ethernet

https://viiwork.pulu.app/blog/kv-share-two-5090-hosts/
3•velmu•1d ago•0 comments

Southern Africa's first known stenciled rock art found hiding in plain sight

https://phys.org/news/2026-10-southern-africa-stenciled-art-plain.html
29•wglb•2d ago•6 comments

MiniLake Is a Local Databricks API Emulator with SQL, Delta Lake and Spark

https://dmux.github.io/minilake/
81•kermatt•2d ago•16 comments

OpenAI's agents talked to each other through the CPU Cache

https://the-decoder.com/openais-isolated-ai-agents-found-ways-to-talk-to-each-other-through-cpu-c...
321•limbicsystem•2d ago•219 comments

NetBSD adds a new beginner-friendly text editor called atto

https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/117518160563539748
86•luke8086•3h ago•69 comments

StackOverflow now gets fewer than 1000 questions a month

https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1926661#graph?t=1
677•babelfish•16h ago•575 comments

A Health Update

https://furbo.org/2026/10/28/a-health-update/
331•frizlab•18h ago•52 comments

GitLab Security Incident: Attempted Exploitation of CVE-2026-97229

https://alpinelinux.org/posts/GitLab-security-incident-CVE-2026-97229.html
232•sashk•16h ago•109 comments

CNC Stone Carving

https://carmelitegothic.com/cnc-stone-carving/
509•bschne•1d ago•140 comments

Mexico is a showroom for electric vehicles you can't buy in the U.S.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2026/10/27/i-saw-future-driving-mexico-its-off...
9•bookofjoe•26m ago•2 comments

A new faster algorithm to compute 64-bit signed floor division

https://www.benjoffe.com/fast-floordiv
131•benjoffe•2d ago•10 comments

Requests, Please

https://morronel.github.io/requests_please/
63•sysoleg•3d ago•15 comments
Open in hackernews

Finland investigate Google over destruction of 250k trees

https://yle.fi/a/74-20254086
64•DeepLogin•59m ago

Comments

ChrisArchitect•49m ago
Discussion on previous developments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50194283

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50048638

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49968324

ActionHank•45m ago
Nothing will happen, calling it now.
akudha•41m ago
What is the point? They will pay a fine and move on to their next exploit. Maybe the punishment should be to force them to spend as much money/time/effort as needed to regrow the entire forest, all 250,000 trees, and then some. Even if it takes 20-30 years - pay for reforestation, hire crews, pay for inspections/watchdogs to monitor etc
dcrazy•40m ago
If Finland prohibits them from continuing construction, they don’t get the data center they want, and they have to start over somewhere else.
outside1234•37m ago
This. This would be real pain for them in terms of latency to launch.
akudha•37m ago
Yes, Finland can also tighten the rules on future permits etc. But after all this, Google will simply pay a fine and look for another country/forest to exploit. It will also not bring back the 250K trees they destroyed.
JensenTorp•35m ago
The trees were being "destroyed" (harvested) anyway, that is why they were planted. I don't understand why certain types of people are struggling so hard with the facts of this case.
lifeisloving•22m ago
The issue doesnt seem to be the trees, thats more for headlines.

The real issue seems thay they didnt implement proper water mitigation which is about 100x more damaging and potentially hazardous than cutting down trees. You can see it in the photo, they arent building that complex with much concern for the surrounding environment.

dcrazy•13m ago
Trees can also provide soil stability. It’s possible that bulk razing this plot has turned it into a liquefaction zone.
tschellenbach•35m ago
It's a weird story. There must have been dozens of approvals by the government for this project.
throwitaway222•33m ago
That's the first thing that comes to mind here too. Very very very few contractors are going to do work without a permit. Maybe Finland needs to investigate their own government offices?
Hamuko•26m ago
Google (through its local subsidiary) asked the regulators if they could skip doing an environmental impact assessment. The regulators told them that they could not skip doing it. They'd already started logging before asking for the exemption and continued to log for months after being told that there would not be an exemption.

They'd also applied for a landscaping permit for the site, but were denied one by the municipality because they'd still not performed the environmental impact assessment.

SecretDreams•13m ago
It's google trying to ask for forgiveness rather than permission, the news cycles making money on the cockup, and HN whiteknighting for Google because Google pays their wages directly and indirectly.

A viscous cycle all around!

boothby•3m ago
Closing the loop: google makes ad money on all the views these stories get
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Hamuko•30m ago
The HN submission title is wrong and editorialised. Google is not being investigated for cutting trees. They're being investigated for environmental damage, including drainage and water management at the site. There's been reports of water running from the site out into the environment. The local residents have been worried over brown, muddy water streaming out from the clearance site into the surrounding nature (https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000012327899.html).
JensenTorp•24m ago
Welcome to the new Hacker News, nowhere is safe from the propaganda clowns.
baobabKoodaa•8m ago
Incorrect. While there are multiple issues, the cutting of trees is the main issue.
tremon•29m ago
This is what happens when you think you can skip the environmental assessment:

> “We had wolves coming into the village because all the wild animals moved out of the forest,” Anni Ranta, a resident of Otanmaki, told The Guardian. “They fled.”

https://fortune.com/2026/10/26/wolves-finland-google-1300-ac...

dosinga•28m ago
I think this is a case of a misleading headline. Do the 250K trees even enter into this:

> Police said that, based on current information, there have been irregularities and shortcomings in drainage and water management at the data centre project's worksite

250K trees sounds like a lot, but Finland has like 20B trees, so it would take 3 hours for Finland to grow this back

whatevaa•21m ago
9 woman can't bring baby in a month. That 3 hour estimate makes no sense.
synecdoche•14m ago
It may do so in the form of volume or weight in carpentry materiel or other word products.
watwut•13m ago
But ... but ... but 2240 women can bring a baby in 3 hours! Surely!
Arainach•18m ago
> 250K trees sounds like a lot, but Finland has like 20B trees, so it would take 3 hours for Finland to grow this back

That's not how math.....or trees.....work.

ghurtado•15m ago
Bro is using the Factorio model of resource reallocation.
mig39•28m ago
Not to excuse things, but was this an industrial monoculture tree farm that they replaced with a data centre? This isn't "wild" forest, is it?
eithed•20m ago
I'm confused - isn't a contractor (Tuike Finland) doing and being responsible for this work?
anttisalmela•19m ago
Tuike Finland is subsidiary of Google.
Hamuko•18m ago
Tuike Finland is not a contractor. It's a Google subsidiary. Tuike Finland also has the auxiliary com­pany na­me of "Google Technology Finland". Their official place of business is Ensontie 1, 49420 Hamina.

https://www.finder.fi/IT-konsultointi+IT-palvelut/Tuike+Finl...

Notably, this is the address of Google Hamina Campus.

https://www.datacentermap.com/finland/hamina/google-hamina/

eithed•7m ago
Thank you, that clears it up that it's indeed still Google.
jacquesm•12m ago
Google has a lot of subsidiaries all over the world that are very clearly NOT Google and never mind the fact that we only have one shareholder, whose name we unfortunately can not divulge.
dcrazy•26m ago
Even if Google abandons the site and refuses to pay a fine, they’ll have lost all the money they have invested in site surveys, contracts, labor… even the delays alone of making them fulfill the EIS cost them money, not to mention whatever opportunity cost they were trying to minimize by flouting the environmental regulations.

Google is already feeling pain from this.

akudha•20m ago
How much money did they spend? A few million, few tens of millions perhaps? That is not even a rounding error for them.

Maybe the delay and opportunity cost caused them some pain, but whatever they invested in contracts, labor etc is probably pocket change for them

dcrazy•13m ago
You seem intent on arguing that enforcement of this cannot possibly matter. That kind of defeatism often wins Internet brownie points, but is not a useful way of actually being an effective force for change in the world.
JensenTorp•37m ago
See the previous comments for why it's a mostly fake story designed to make low-information people angry.
wongarsu•26m ago
The real punishment arguably already happened. This could have been a feel-good project with lots of positive PR: a datacenter built far from major population centers, in a place with lots of available water that isn't used for anything else, in a country with relatively cheap electricity that is overwhelmingly produced from nuclear, hydro and wind. Amid all the negative datacenter PR it could have been a project Google could point to where every single objection has been addressed. Instead it has become a PR disaster that has been dragged through the news cycle and social media's outrage cycle.
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24m ago
Every time it gets posted most assume that the forest was supposed to be protected and they decided to cut it down anyway.

The details are much less dramatic: The company doing the work messed up on a part of the approval process that was supposed to be completed first. It’s technically possible that the environmental impact review would come back with some obscure exception that required them to revise their plans, but it’s unlikely that anything was going to stop those trees from being cut down.

The 250K trees headline appears dramatic if you don’t know that Finland is covered in trees and cutting down a lot of them is part of building anything.

saalweachter•11m ago
In the US there's also a third category besides "permit approved" and "permit denied", "no permit needed": the thing you are doing is allowed and not covered by the permitting process. You just do it. This shows up in both building code (you typically don't need a permit for most repairs or cosmetic renovations) and environmental protections (you don't need an environmental study for logging in a non-protected forest).

The tricky part with "no permit needed" is that while you can just go and do whatever, if someone charged with enforcement suspects you're doing something that requires a permit, they can still demand you prove you don't (and stop work until you do), and if you guessed wrong and you did indeed need a permit, you're double-fucked.

That's why for many of these processes, there's also something like a certificate of no-permit needed, where you go through an abbreviated permitting process spending a lot of time and money while all of the clerks and officials stare at you like you're a moron before finally giving you a piece of paper saying you didn't need to do any of that in the first place.

And that's why a lot of people with a lot of experience and a good understanding of the law skip getting a "no permit needed" certificate.

I am assuming it's similar in other countries.

rconti•23m ago
Yeah, and it's being done by a local contractor who presumably knows the process. It'll definitely be interesting if some moustache-twirling CEO at a foreign company is shown to have yelled "BURN THE FOREST DOWN, I WANT IT NOW!" at the contractor, but that feels unlikely in this case.
CrimsonRain•15m ago
Funny thing is, if this "forest" is to be protected, why doesn't the govt buy/own the land? What an idiotic thing to say you plant trees in your land but you are not allowed to cut it. Don't approve of a data center in a land where you won't let them clear it. Bureaucracy must prevail!
mirekrusin•11m ago
I think they were expecting them to be replanted on the roof.
SecretDreams•15m ago
Exactly. There's a whole gestation period where the mom tree carries the baby tree to term. Then the baby tree needs years to mature and develop. And because the dad tree was lost in the great google felling of 2026, the baby tree will be raised in a single tree family household, which will put additional strain on its development.
drivingmenuts•7m ago
Oh, that's just great. It'll turn into a juvenile delinquent tree, hiding behind other trees to leap out and scare unsuspecting hikers.
gwjeglkefnf3•15m ago
What does the total number of trees in Finland have to do with the amount of time it would take to grow 250K tree back?
alienbaby•10m ago
I think he means, if an average tree adds say ~10g of wood per day, I had 20B trees and cut down 250000 of them, how long do the remaining trees take to grow back the wood that was lost from the trees that were cut down.

Turns out, if the trees lost are about 2000kg, it takes about ~ 2.5 days.

delichon•4m ago

  Growing stock volume: ~2.66B m^3
  Annual volume increment: 103M m^3
  Approximate average tree volume: ~0.125-0.13 m^3
  Volume of 250K trees: 250k x 0.1275 ~ 32k m^3

  Time for remaining trees to grow that volume back: 32k / 103M m^3/year ~ 0.00031 years ~ 2.7 to 4.3 hours