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My Favourite Laptop

https://blog.jsbarretto.com/post/laptop
54•ibobev•1h ago

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bediger4000•1h ago
The author didn't list real mouse buttons as a benefit, and I see from the image it has them. I've been buying refurbished Dell business class laptops for a decade, the last one I bought, a Dell Latitude 7420, doesn't have them, which is turning out to be a big problem. It means that cut-n-paste went way up in hassle and inaccuracy. Why did laptop vendors quit putting in mouse buttons? Does the average Windows user only left click on things? Does any laptop come with mouse buttons these days?
WillAdams•1h ago
ThinkPads seem to still have physical buttons for clicking:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/th...

6LLvveMx2koXfwn•56m ago
My X1 Carbon Gen13 has physical mouse buttons - I totally love them.
functionmouse•38m ago
They're enshittified now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92bdOcsBVpQ

medvidek•22m ago
The ThinkPad is still the only recent-ish laptop you can actually buy with a trackpoint and a full-size ethernet port.
functionmouse•12m ago
The trackpoint of old is my favorite input method for laptops. But the trackpoint of new is not like the trackpoint of old. I still prefer it to the trackpad personally, just because it's so ingrained in me, but I no longer try to convince friends and family. It's on its way out, culturally, because of said enshittification.
_trampeltier•1h ago
Even my very light Fujitsu U939 has two real mouse buttons. On the other side, I allways have a small mouse or a trackball with me. The cursor buttons are also in full size and he has also 2 seperate PgUp and PgDown buttons. I have no idea how people can work on a notebook without these buttons.
cevn•55m ago
I thought i was crazy looking for mouse buttons in laptops, seems like the cool thing to do is leave them out.
jerlam•24m ago
Everyone trying to make a laptop that looks like Apple but doesn't work like one.
orev•47m ago
Two-finger tap acts as the right-click. Also clicking and holding the bottom-right corner.

But I don’t pretend that any of these gestures make trackpads usable.

bediger4000•5m ago
Alas, as a Linux user, X11 doesn't seem to do that sort of thing: a 2-finger tap is nothing at all according to xev. 2-finger and 3-finger trackpad clicks are basically unreliable left and right mouse button clicks.

I haven't been able to put in .Xresources entries to make some other keypad event into mouse clicks either.

pmontra•30m ago
The HP Fury 16 has buttons below the touchpad. Maybe there are no other new laptops with buttons in that position.

The ThinkPads have them below the spacebar. They are conveniently placed if one uses the little red stick, not so much for the touchpad.

alpaca128•12m ago
Maybe it's just me but I find the buttons below the spacebar far more convenient to use together with the touchpad.
bityard•24m ago
IMO, Dell Latitudes stopped being business-quality and started being consumer-quality _many_ years ago. Crap keyboards, crap touchpad, cheap painted plastic case, etc. You need to step up to at least the Precision line to get anything decent.

Although, Dell have refreshed all of their product lines lately, so even this is outdated advice. Looking through their current lineup and I don't see _any_ with real physical touchpad buttons or pointer sticks, unfortunately.

EvanAnderson•12m ago
My daughter got some low-end Dell laptop for her school machine and the touchpad w/o buttons is fucking excruciating. They had her using OnShape last year with that touchpad. I tried it and nearly gave the machine a toss in frustration. I had her use my older Dell machine w/ buttons to see how much less shitty it is (and then I gave her a USB mouse to use because OnShape with any touchpad is still difficult to use, IMO).
dayyan•1h ago
Nipple .
kamranjon•59m ago
"I’ve opted for the largest after-market external battery I could find. When doing casual work the laptop will easily survive for north of 10 hours without a charge, stretching to 12 hours if I’m careful."

Does anyone have a good suggestion for an aftermarket battery? I have a few Thinkpads and I've tried so many batteries and they all last maybe 2 or 3 hours before needing a recharge. If someone is out there making high density batteries for these old laptops I'd love to pick one up.

brendoelfrendo•38m ago
I use a T480 as my daily driver and recently upgraded to a 72wh battery after the old 24wh pack died. I bought a Lenovo-branded Total Micro battery off of CDW to ensure I was actually getting what I paid for, as the last battery was a cheap knockoff that barely lasted a year. The 72wh battery was about a $10 difference to the 48wh battery and will easily last 10 hours but could last 14 hours with conservative use.

This is the specific battery I bought: https://www.cdw.com/product/total-micro-battery-lenovo-think...

bigwheels•13m ago
FYI brendo, the link redirects to a discontinued tos audio board. Maybe missing a digit on the product ID?
kstenerud•39m ago
My "desktop" machine is actually an old T450 I bought used over a decade ago, running Linux Mint (Mate).

Weak processor, 16gb ram, but good enough for browsing and running daily tasks, and it's simple enough to connect to more powerful machines when the need arises. And the docking station has HDMI and displayport. Hardware H.264 codec, and also HEVC and VP9, but alas only with the windows driver.

My big rig desktop is now in the basement, sleeping until I need to run LLMs or diffusion or a heavy compile. I also sometimes use it for Steam gaming, connecting to it via moonlight (which works surprisingly well, even over WIFI).

bonestamp2•32m ago
I love the T Series Thinkpads... had several of them and recently did a RAM and SSD upgrade to one that is still running great. The only thing they need to improve is the trackpad. It's not bad, but the macbook trackpad is still king.
exe34•13m ago
Macbook Air mid-2012 here. 8GB. I use Nixos without a desktop env, this little machine refuses to die or become obsolete. I have a 3090 in a desktop for messing around with LLMs but that's headless.
ctkhn•34m ago
As I have done more ai coding where I'm just reviewing a PR and giving feedback to a model that runs on a studio in my home, I wonder if eventually something like this as a thin client would be nice. Has anyone done something similar? I think most of the time I wouldn't have enough internet to access my server, I also might not be wanting to code in the first place.
jeffbee•29m ago
Yeah I just remote access my agent via cloud relay. There is no need in my experience for the laptop to have any oomph at all.
adamisnotroman•14m ago
I built a mobile client for agents called Cosyra. For this use case I'd say use chat to prompt an agent because it will queue the message for when you have internet and sends it as an https request so it's pretty lightweight. You can check it out here: cosyra.com
rapind•13m ago
I built my own web tmux type thing running on a beefy metal box (for rust builds) that I access over tailscale. I was using HAPI, but I wanted to simplify and use rust for the back end and my own elm-like front-end to improve performance. I haven't published it since it's pretty specific to my workflow (I ruthlessly keep it as simple as possible), but you can think of it like a Herdr type thing in the browser. It also has a phone interface and I generally use speech instead of typing as a lot of my compositions can be stream of thought.

I use an MBA and an iPhone, but a cheap tablet or phone would work just as well. I care about network, portability, screen size + quality, and speech to text. Pretty much nothing else matters, CPU / GPU irrelevant as long as it can run a browser. I might build a native non-browser version at some point for better resource management on the client, but it hasn't been an issue so far. I would love a pair of glasses I could render text on with speech to text. It's such a gap in the market, might just build my own bespoke thing if I can source the components for it. An e-ink tablet would also be a great option for working outdoors...

bityard•18m ago
My favorite laptop has consistently been the one that I can buy off the second-hand business surplus market for cheap, and has a plethora of replacement parts available on ebay. Up until the whole PC market got stupid about a year ago, anyway.

My current daily driver is a Dell Precision 7550. It has a nice 15" display, touchpad buttons with a middle-mouse button, USB-C + Thunderbolt. Keyboard is not great, but not terrible. I did have to buy a new battery for it. I don't know what I'm going to do if/when it dies, because neither Dell nor Lenovo make a laptop now that I am interested in owning in 3-4 years.

l5870uoo9y•13m ago
I originally bought my MacBook Air M1 just as a transitional computer because my old, incredibly expensive Intel MacBook Pro had been stolen, and I was waiting for a newer MacBook Pro model. But I grew so fond of the Air that I couldn't bring myself to part with it again. It's lightweight, has incredible performance (more powerful than the most powerful Intel-based Pros), the battery lasts a long time, the keyboard is comfortable, and the design is more curved than the Pro (and the newer Air models), which means it doesn't dig into your wrists.
j45•9m ago
If that m1 today came out as a 12” retina MacBook (2lb) it would be the first Apple product I’d ever line up for.

Neo is way too heavy.

rootnod3•13m ago
An old x220 (which I have), but a bit more modern and fully OpenBSD supported would be my dream.
privong•3m ago
Agreed. I had an x201 and an x250. The 250 main board eventually stopped working (I think due to flex when the laptop was picked up from one corner repeatedly -- a known issue from what I understand). My x201 still runs great (with occasional refreshes of the thermal paste). A version of the x201-x220 era machines with modern internals would be my dream machine.
vdombr•9m ago
My favorite and most beloved laptop was the T60 with an IPS display. It was rock-solid, had a docking station, a swappable CD drive and battery, and PDF manuals for disassembly. I wish I could buy something cool now to run a *nix OS, but I cannot find anything good besides the MacBook Pro.
egeozcan•8m ago
I find the thinkpads extemely cool, and I envy the customization / repair options soo much.

That said, I switched to a macbook pro last year and these machines are like from another world. I want to get things done instead of fiddling with the machine and, famous last words I know but, this thing just works.

Yes, it'll be e-waste the moment a small thing breaks, and costs like a years wage in some parts of the world, so it's no competition to the thinkpad.

I hope framework eventually delivers the best of both worlds.

gonzalohm•1m ago
I don't think Framework aims to be a laptop that you just set it up and forget. You own everything and that comes with some concessions. Things won't always work, software will always be tricky to make fully compatible, etc.

But that's the price to pay to actually own your laptop.

That said, I heard Mac OS quality has been going downhill since a few years ago

yu3zhou4•2m ago
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ctkhn•7m ago
Have you run into any situations where you couldn't reach back to your server? I still have an m3 macbook pro w 64gb ram that I use for local qwen when my internet isn't great ie getting stuff done on a plane. Not sure if I'd feel a loss going to MBA and having a 24gb ram max or if it would be good for me to disconnect and just read a book instead

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