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Show HN: I built a frontpage for personal blogs

https://text.blogosphere.app/
236•ramkarthikk•3h ago
With social media and now AI, its important to keep the indie web alive. There are many people who write frequently. Blogosphere tries to highlight them by fetching the recent posts from personal blogs across many categories.

There are two versions: Minimal (HN-inspired, fast, static): https://text.blogosphere.app/ Non-minimal: https://blogosphere.app/

If you don't find your blog (or your favorite ones), please add them. I will review and approve it.

Comments

chistev•2h ago
Great job.

Submitted my blog.

ramkarthikk•2h ago
Thank you. I approved your blog. Quick note: It looks like your feed items don't have published date which makes it hard to store and sort recent posts.
chistev•2h ago
>Thank you. I approved your blog.

Can't find it.

> It looks like your feed items don't have published date which makes it hard to store and sort recent posts

Okay, you mean the RSS feed?

the_axiom•2h ago
What if I have a personal handwritten blog but it has nazist content?
notachatbot123•2h ago
I would recommend deleting it, reading up on fascism and psychology and trying to fix whatever makes you prone to extremism in a different way that radicalism and hate.
nextaccountic•1h ago
The OP doesn't need to approve every blog that is submitted
obsidianbases1•2h ago
Something like this is very much needed.

I hope to see more things like this.

What would be really cool is if there was a personalized algorithm (for you page) that stored data and processed locally.

ramkarthikk•2h ago
Thank you. I wanted to mostly stay away from algorithmic feed to stay true to RSS. On the non-minimal version of the site, you can sign up and follow blogs to have a "For You" tab, but it's still recent posts from blogs you follow.
Miraltar•2h ago
Instead or in addition to following blogs, what I'd love to have is a way to filter out those I don't like.
obsidianbases1•1h ago
Local keyword exclusions (to keep the server requirement minimal) might be pretty high impact.
ramraj07•2h ago
give people the ability to curate their own collections and publish them
ramkarthikk•2h ago
On the non-minimal version, you can signup for an account and follow blogs (curate your fav blogs). I will add an option to making your list public.
Hard_Space•2h ago
Incredible that we are regressing back to webrings and hand-curated lists like this, both of which I remember well. That's not a criticism! I guess that the quality-drop in search wasn't quite enough to make it happen, but the advent of AI content predomination will be.
nate•2h ago
Similarly, I feel like book publishers are about to become a thriving business soon again. With any book being most likely just a bot creation, trusting "Random House" sounds like a thing more of us will start paying attention to to make sure we're buying a human made thing.
RobotToaster•1h ago
That's assuming publishers don't decide to replace all their authors with AI.
avanwyk•1h ago
I wouldn't even call this a regression. Hand curated and edited feels like the future I want right now.
coldpie•1h ago
> Incredible that we are regressing back to webrings and hand-curated lists like this

One of these hand-curated blog aggregator websites pops up on HN about every month. They're cool and good on the author for trying to solve the problem, but it seems like the wrong approach to me. They're too disorganized, a random collection of mostly tech- and politics-related writing from random people with zero way to vet the quality of the writing. They also require the creator/owner to care about the project for the long-term, which is unlikely. I never revisit the aggregators.

I wonder if webrings are a better fix here. The low-tech version could be to put a static-URL page on my blog that links to other blogs I like, with a short description. Then people who find my blog interesting might also enjoy the blogs that I enjoy. That could be powerful if it caught on widely.

Maybe a clever person could come up with some kind of higher-tech version that could present a more interesting & consistent interface to users, encourage blogs to link back to each other, and also solve the dead-link problem.

Wojtkie•1h ago
Couldn't you technically crawl all these blogs for their "blog's I'm reading" and create a social graph? You could start vetting based on how often other blogs link to that one, sort of like an impact factor in research.
travisjungroth•52m ago
That sounds like PageRank, Google’s original algorithm.
cosmicgadget•40m ago
I think Marginalia does bidirectional link analysis if that helps.
RobotToaster•1h ago
I'm honestly not sure what these do that federated link aggregators like lemmy/mbin/piefed don't already do.
glenstein•1h ago
It's a good question, and I think worth trying to answer. I think the key thing is that discovery is derived from a curated index rather than social link posting and voting, and the darwinian race to the bottom/popularity/campaigning that drives link aggregators is replaced by a more deliberate human curation with all of its good and bad. You find new things, you feel a slower pace, but maybe get bored more frequently too.
flir•1h ago
I think we're going to reinvent Google's "circles" mechanism from G+. We all (well, the terminally online, at least) are going to be part of several more or less overlapping villages, and the people in those villages are going to trust each other to not be bad faith actors. Everything else... everything that tries to scale... everything public... wasteland.

Something something Dunbar's number, Tragedy of the commons.

Yokohiii•46m ago
Interesting. Each time I think about how we could reboot the (social) web I have this on mind. I don't want exposure to everything, so kind of whitelisting the contacts/peoples/blogs is the first thought. I guess it could work to carve your own cozy echo chamber that once in a while lets something new in. The conflict I cannot penetrate is that some things (could) need a larger exposure surface. I.e. OS projects, maintainers that will naturally generate a large following. There are also individuals that want to maximize exposure, mostly for the sake of it. The latter could be neglected but the former not. That leaves an natural backdoor to turn any networking into the same cesspools we have right now.

I am not sure, maybe we have to subdue to the fact that a massive focus on a single thing will turn out into something bad. Considering the importance of Linus Torvalds to the software world, it can even work. He isn't really digitally socialized in a "modern" sense and he still is networked enough to manage an high impact project. Sure he is networked via the linux ecosystem, but that walls him away from direct interactions with the general public.

gibsonsmog•1h ago
I think a web ring combined with some kind of web of trust style system would be nice. Ideally they could be both centralized where an initial creator holds the keys to what's allowed and decentralized where it just sort of exists. I haven't quite been able to sketch out a reasonable way to keep sites persistent and consistent except DNS records, though. DNS of course making it hard or impossible for smaller and less tech-savvy creators while also having it's own issues regardless.

I'm a big web ring person though so I might be biased and trying to use a hammer in place of a screwdriver.

Imustaskforhelp•1h ago
> I wonder if webrings are a better fix here. The low-tech version could be to put a static-URL page on my blog that links to other blogs I like, with a short description. Then people who find my blog interesting might also enjoy the blogs that I enjoy. That could be powerful if it caught on widely.

I have been doing this by linking my linkhut profile with either my profile picture (I used to) or just mentioning it in comments like I am doing right now

https://ln.ht/~imafh , Although not really entirely to blogs, I have this place to recommend cool musicians,projects,links that I have found and I write a short note in all of them as to why I really liked the link. But with tags you can especially have a #blog #webring and use linkhut with notes feature

What do you think about linkhut, I had submitted it to hackernews as a submission after finding it but there wasn't really much traction to it, I am not going to lie when I say this when this feature really resonated with me so much.

I hope more people come to know about linkhut, I hope I am doing my part in making people know about it :)

cosmicgadget•36m ago
That is a cool project. Sorry to see it not get out of /new.
palata•40m ago
> The low-tech version could be to put a static-URL page on my blog that links to other blogs I like

I think OpenRing does that? [1]. Not my blog, just linking for illustration, but you can see how it looks here at the bottom of the page: https://drewdevault.com/2020/02/06/Dependencies-and-maintain...

[1]: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/openring

Lerc•35m ago
I like the idea of tree curation. People view the branch of their interest. Anyone can submit anything to any point but are unlikely to be noticed if they submit closer to the trunk. Curated lists submit their lists to curators closer to the trunk.

The furthest branches have the least volume (need filters to stop bulk submission to all levels, but still allow some multi submission). It allows curators to contribute in a small field. They then submit their preferred items to the next level up. If that curator likes it they send it further. A leaf level curator can bypass any curator above but with the same risk of being ignored if the higher level node receives too much volume.

You could even run fully AI branches where their picks would only make all the way up by convincing a human curator somewhere above them of the quality. If they don't do a good job they would just be ignored. People can listen to them direct if they are so inclined

cosmicgadget•31m ago
> people who find my blog interesting might also enjoy the blogs that I enjoy. That could be powerful if it caught on widely.

Imho this is better at the blog post level of granularity. Sometimes I will like someone's writing style, much more often I will be interested in topical recommended reading.

renegat0x0•1h ago
I follow awesome lists. These are curated lists of software. It reverts google indexing, because search is awful.

About personal blogs... I have many many personal blogs in my repository. Around 4k. Respository below. The real problem is to find quality stuff. You can have millions of them, but if they are not worth my time, then what is the point?

I cannot verify and decide what is good manually. Obviously.

I think we cannot also rely on Google to provide rating, nor any corporation.

So I have my own ratings, because at least I will be able to find what I found worth before.

Link to my repo:

https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

ml-•2h ago
Nice job. A small suggestion, unless I completely missed it, an option to filter by post / blog language.
ramkarthikk•2h ago
Great feedback. I will add search to this minimal version. The non-minimal version comes with search. Filter by language is something neither has and will be a great addition.
setnone•2h ago
This is great. I'm curious what's your vision on adding comments?
ramkarthikk•2h ago
If you're referring to comments on the website, I plan to keep it minimal (the text version is a static site).

If you're referring to comments on blogs in general, I have many thoughts. Back in the day, comments used to be how you connected with people and let other people find you. It also came with spam (spam plugins could only do so much).

With the rise of static site generators, most people don't have comments on their blogs now. It is something I miss though.

AndrewStephens•2h ago
I haven’t had comments on my blog for over a decade now and I don’t miss them. For every useful and informative comment I got several spammy or rude reply. Anyone who wants to let me know something about my blog can message me on social media.

I’ve seen blogs that do not host comments themselves but instead automatically surface social media (usually mastodon) comments which I think is a useful technique.

paulnpace•1h ago
> Anyone who wants to let me know something about my blog can message me on social media.

But, can they?

ramkarthikk•55m ago
Yes, unfortunately spam and rude replies come with comments. I also don't have comments on my blog. I instead have one of those email masking services that allows to people to email me (and I have found this effective).
setnone•1h ago
My literal brain pictured blogosphere's frontpage as something with users, rankings and comments on the websibe.

But moderation and spam are still the hardest problems indeed.

AndrewStephens•2h ago
I love this (and submitted my blog) - people bemoan the death of the Old Web™ but in reality there is still heaps of great content being created.
SirFatty•2h ago
Did you use Frontpage to create your frontpage?
reconnecting•2h ago
<meta name="generator" content="FrontPage 4.0">
cr125rider•2h ago
Then add A BUNCH of extra XML to bloat the page nicely
reconnecting•50m ago
Back in the day, FrontPage was indeed synonymous with nested and unreliable page structure.

I wish I could go back and tell them it was nothing compared to what passes for web output in 21st century.

postalcoder•2h ago
If anyone looking for something even more minimalist, give the HN x Small Web RSS feed a try

https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&limit=50&smallweb=t...

randusername•2h ago
Great work, I haven't updated my public site in years while I waited for the LLM stuff to play out, but you've inspired me to put it back out there and submit.
mmargenot•2h ago
Very cool! This was a good impetus to actually add RSS to my blog.
sebastianconcpt•1h ago
Yeah we need to make curated human signals stronger.
Biologist123•1h ago
Nice. I can see a version of this working for ever more niche areas. Curated reading lists for areas of interest. At which point a curated list of curated lists becomes viable!
jasoneckert•1h ago
This is great, thanks! It sort of feels like browsing for gems in a used bookstore and stumbling onto authentic, personal writing. I'm always up for that, and plan on spending plenty of time exploring the list.

I’ve submitted mine as well - cheers!

glenstein•1h ago
>It sort of feels like browsing for gems in a used bookstore and stumbling onto authentic, personal writing

I don't know that I've heard a better description of the thing the so-called small web is about than that. It's the clearest answer to the "why" of having a small web of discoverable personal blogs and sites.

ramkarthikk•51m ago
That is such a lovely way to put it. Do you mind if I add it to the about page and link to this comment?
nextaccountic•1h ago
Question, is this strictly chronological, or is there anything at all to make this an "algorithmic feed" like HN, reddit, twitter, or facebook? (list is roughly in the order of less shitty to more shitty, but note that none of them are chronological, unlike, say, a RSS reader aggregating some set of blogs)
ramkarthikk•1h ago
This is strictly chronological. No voting, no algorithm.
dchuk•1h ago
Very clean site, well done. I’ve built something similar, but it also has an algorithmic front page option as well based on the “standard” algorithm from Reddit/HN: https://engineered.at

I also have it wired up to gpt nano for topic extraction and summary creation per post, if you register for an account (free) you can also follow sources and topics to fine tune things.

I have a big list of features to continue adding to it, like an ability to “claim” your site so you can get some analytics from the site, and potentially to boost your site in the algorithm. Might also add a jobs board.

If you’re interested, while this site is closed source, the feed monitoring rails engine is open source: https://github.com/dchuk/source_monitor

Yokohiii•22m ago
Not sure if you want feedback on this, but mine is free.

The lists are impenetrable for my eye, I think an key mistake is that you don't use an accent color for titles in lists (i.e. look at a google serp).

That you don't directly link the content, felt like an offense, followed by a slap in the face looking at an AI generated summary.

The layout feels too reddit and too industrialized and the way you plan to progress the project, rings my "pet project to slam ad's on" bells.

I think the pure intent of OPs site naturally makes it more approachable and likeable.

lemiffe•1h ago
Great idea! Could you add a "music" category please for blogs?
danielszlaski•1h ago
Nice and clean.
LostMyLogin•1h ago
Love this! New homepage for me. Do you have a buy me coffee button to help keep it live?
glenstein•1h ago
Right! My concern with these tools is sometimes they are too good for this world and likely to live a few months.
ramkarthikk•57m ago
Appreciate it :) I don't have one. This is hosted on Cloudflare as a static site and a cron that runs on a $5 VM (that also hosts other things). So it doesn't cost me much to keep it alive other than the domain cost. I built it this way intentionally so that I can keep this running forever.
glenstein•1h ago
Love this! I very much appreciate the inclusion of a lightweight version, as I think lightweight discovery for blogs and the small web is where good tools and apps are needed.

Also, given that the lightweight version is very hn styled format it naturally leads my brain to imagining a version with upvotes and commenters (which may be a good or a bad thing) but with the link submission part automated. Not necessarily the intent here but it was the first time that particular combination of possibilities occurred to me as a way to do things.

Also curious about how these blogs are indexed/reviewed. Is the list ever pruned over time due to inactivity?

ramkarthikk•1h ago
Thank you. The initial list was from blogroll.org (mentioned in the about page, and I emailed the person who built that). From then on, I review every submission that happens via the form.

The scheduler flags blogs that fail and doesn't try to fetch after a few tries. I'm still working on an effective way to re-review and prune. Open to any feedback.

glenstein•34m ago
I suppose my dream would be that the protocolization of this from back in the day gets revived in some way. Like a google pagecrawl style index built up from blogrolls (though I don't know if the blogroll itself was ever literally protocol-ized), combined with some checking of RSS feeds for activity. Or webrings, or something else.

Though in some respects these are less smart than what you're already doing, but I would like to think there's an elegant way to make an index emerge organically to minimize the editorial burden of any one person.

bovermyer•1h ago
There's also this: https://minifeed.net/global

However, I think (text.)Blogosphere has a nicer interface, personally. Maybe I'm just used to HN.

Imustaskforhelp•1h ago
Yes!! I found a new website to use :-)

I just hope if you can add dark-mode, I use hackernews essential which adds dark mode and more features which I really like in hackernews, Perhaps something like this can be added but overall I really like it!

You have (essentially) just made something which I imagined 2 years ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41789661: Ask HN: Are you interested in a Hacker News alternative which doesnt focus on AI (Oct 9 2024)

My point, which has only grown to an even larger degree is that Hackernews has too many AI discussions, which both feels a bit fomo to me and also I am seeing AI generated blog posts and comments now on Hackernews as well.

At some point, I want a website where I can talk about the more human aspects, some occasional AI mention is fine but not if a quarter or half of front page is hackernews and some genuinely nice projects don't get the attention :(

I had joined hackernews to read those content pieces and fell in love with the human discussion aspect but now there are definitely moments of browsing hackernews which makes me feel as to what I had written in the ask HN

my last line within the ask HN was: I just want people who don't want the latest ai hype to gather around and discuss some other cool things which are "not" AI. This kind of fits into that

Adding my submissions of blog-posts into it in sometime :) See you there!

rednafi•1h ago
This is great. But I’ve bookmarked at least 10 of these aggregators over the years, and I never revisit any of them. Partly because I don’t have the time to browse and discover new content.

I also don’t read the blog spam from prolific writers who pop up here every two days, especially the low-quality ones constantly yapping about AI. So the number of blogs I revisit is a handful, and I have a page on my site listing them [1]. Some of the blogs I’ve listed also have backlinks to my site. It’s super simple and works fairly well for me. Plus there’s rss.

[1]: https://rednafi.com/blogroll/

efilife•1h ago
This doesn't have an RSS feed? bummer
gorfian_robot•1h ago
yeah +12 if it had an rss feed
ramkarthikk•1h ago
It's the next item on the list I plan to add. Likely will be adding it today.
Kye•1h ago
Variety! I appreciate that it's not all tech writing from tech blogs from people in tech like almost every blog list/aggregator thing on HN.
arrty88•1h ago
super dope. now make it infinite scroll and put ads all over the place! /s
joenot443•1h ago
I love it.

I'd love a search bar and maybe a means to sort by popularity (however you define it.)

I like that it's free and clean and direct; I hope it remains that way!

BrokenCogs•1h ago
Now please build a frontpage for all the frontpages on blogs
colejhudson•1h ago
Lovely!

Those who enjoy this might also like:

- https://kagi.com/smallweb

- https://blogroll.org/

- https://minifeed.net/welcome

- https://ooh.directory/

bryanhogan•1h ago
Any plans on adding a way to filter out "lower quality" posts which usually dominate chronologically sorted post lists?

And, possibly a way to filter type of content more in-depth than just one category?

ramkarthikk•1h ago
No plans to add a filter for "lower quality" since that takes away from the ethos of RSS. Certainly looking to add more ways to filter. Open to ideas.
kypro•12m ago
It's refreshing to to see something intentionally uncurated.

I think "low quality" content has it's place. A lot of my favourite blogs back in the day could be considered "low quality", but for whatever reason I liked them and read their stuff... Same was true of my own blog. It wasn't particularly high quality but back then even a lowish quality blog would still occasionally be surfaced on Google if the right key words were searched for.

I miss this about modern YouTube too... I used to love watching content from small creators even if their content was "lower quality", but it's so hard to discover that type of content today.

Everywhere you go there is an algorithm pushing you towards larger and more professional creators. And that can be fine, but it's nice to have some balance.

_HMCB_•48m ago
Superb! Thank you. Psychologically, the minimal version feels perfect; as if it were more connected with the spirit of blogging.
sodapopcan•36m ago
Very nice, this is great! Love that you give the two UX options.

FYI (bug report): In the non-minimal version, navigating by category is janky in FireFox. The logo briefly disappears with the nav jumping up in its place every time you click a category.

ramkarthikk•30m ago
Ah, thank you. I will check this.
wonger_•35m ago
FWIW hackr.news has a smallweb filter: https://hcker.news/?smallweb=true

But kudos for different people working on similar good ideas

napolux•30m ago
scoring will bring spam and voting brigades if not managed properly
AnonyMD•28m ago
It's a very modern and clean design.
highspeedbus•27m ago
That's great. I wish we could convince more people to use similar tools regularly, myself included.

It may not 'scale' as well as algorithmic feeds, but maybe that's what will save the Web. We need more sweat and passion, both in curation of content and in the effort to find it.

robertheadley•13m ago
Great concept, I miss the ability to like things though.
robertheadley•12m ago
ah, looks like the .app version covers that. I will have to check it out outside of work.
siva7•12m ago
This feels so Yahoo-1994. Love that we are getting back to our origins thanks to AI.
reedlaw•3m ago
I've come to the conclusion that Hacker News is the best aggregator out there. Substack knows my interests yet gives terrible recommendations. Youtube constantly recommends the same videos or exaggerates my interest in a topic based on a few views, spamming me with related content until I watch something unrelated. The only downside of Hacker News is that its focus is narrower than other sites. But perhaps because the focus is "Anything that good hackers would find interesting" there is a bias towards things I find interesting with less noise than more commercial offerings.