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An Update on Heroku

https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
54•lstoll•1h ago

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slices•1h ago
Just about to set up a new app to deploy to Heroku, but this does not seem promising. Render seems like the next logical move, but curious where others are looking for alternatives.
Tankenstein•1h ago
I moved to render years ago and have been very happy with the decision. It feels like heroku, if it never got acquired by salesforce and kept improving.
guzik•1h ago
yes,, render feels like the most natural next step right now (similar mental model). Still kind of nostalgic about Heroku, had really good times with it.
hboon•1h ago
Yes, Render if you want something similar.
quentindanjou•1h ago
Railway for backend APIs. Render for front-end apps. That's my current go-to.

Although I would consider, _when possible_, using Vercel or Netlify.

nightpool•1h ago
Why/when do you use Railway over Render?
nop_slide•57m ago
why split, you could use railway and render for both front end and back end
g8oz•1h ago
"transitioning to a sustaining engineering model". I don't care what anyone says, it takes real talent to come up with lines like this.
sarreph•1h ago
Surely it's a typo and they meant "sustainable"?

Otherwise IMO such an odd word choice. Definition:

>> providing physical or mental strength or support

sebiw•1h ago
Sustaining as in sustaining their shareholders.
shortsightedsid•45m ago
Sustaining is used in Engineering to mean that it's now post-GA and there is no further development. The platform is not End of Life but there are no more features planned.
selimthegrim•1h ago
It's like PBS, they are going to beg for your money now with a sustaining engineering membership
kenforthewin•1h ago
We've been optimizing for decades to engineer the bullshit-generating super-soldiers required to craft modern PR statements.
earless1•55m ago
From a business perspective, this means they will not be investing in innovation on the platform anymore. Instead, they will focus their efforts on maintaining the current operations and keeping the lights on.
throwoutway•4m ago
Could have just said we will Keep the Lights on
BillinghamJ•1h ago
Seems strange not to just... say nothing and merely remove any mentions of an enterprise offering from the website.

All this blog post can do is make people nervous and lead to customers moving elsewhere. Revenue will drop, and further compound their desire to not invest in the platform. What's the benefit/upside in publishing such an article?

SparkyMcUnicorn•1h ago
> lead to customers moving elsewhere

Since they're no longer accepting new enterprise clients, maybe this is intentional.

CPLX•50m ago
I think they’d be happy if all the customers moved on. They just don’t want to upset enterprise customers.
simonw•1h ago
I wonder how much money Salesforce would need to sell what's left of Heroku to a better steward.
petcat•59m ago
My understanding is that Heroku is just an AWS reseller. I don't know if there's a lot of value in a PaaS piggy-backing on another PaaS anymore. Especially for Salesforce.
sebiw•1h ago
> helping organizations build and deploy enterprise-grade AI in a secure and trusted way

> Enterprise Account contracts will no longer be offered to new customers

Seems contradictory or I just don't understand how they do product management.

My opinion: Heroku had its time but then stagnated heavily in keeping up with what was going on around it. With the rise of Container as a Service platforms there now were a multitude of more cost-efficient and flexible alternatives which were comparable to the service Heroku offered.

nightpool•1h ago
Translation: We're going to reassign the engineers into Salesforce AI.
sebiw•1h ago
Huh, so that's what they mean when using the word "we". "We" is not Heroku, it's Salesforce.
sc68cal•1h ago
It's such a shame, because they had one of the best services out there. Being able to push via Git and end up with a running deployment was a killer feature. It may not have been the first (Elastic Beanstalk was way older but when it first came out it was Java only iirc, ick) but it was incredibly popular.

Seeing them now chasing AI as a "me too" after being acquired by Salesforce just shows that huge companies will acquire something then sit on it for years and let it rot.

sebiw•1h ago
Yup, their Git Push Deployment was really a killer concept and a huge gateway for people just writing good apps not needing to care about infra and still being able to get a production-ready setup.
simonw•1h ago
"We know changes like this can raise questions, and we want to be clear about what this means for customers."

Proceeds to not be clear about what this means for customers.

dmathieu•1h ago
It means: go elsewhere, they're dead.
an0malous•52m ago
What's the best alternative?
syx•47m ago
Moved from heroku to fly.io three years ago and I don’t regret it, great platform occasionally goes down and requires a bit of attention but the support forum is great
dainiusse•1h ago
Was this written by llm?
sebiw•1h ago
Dogfooding their future products!
realusername•1h ago
This blog post is peak comedy. Heroku is half abandoned, I expected the post to be something like "we're sunsetting Heroku" before clicking and what we get instead is about AI.
CPLX•49m ago
They are discontinuing it, you were right.
easton•1h ago
I just got some Heroku socks like two months ago at an event, they must've killed it at the start of the year. Weird.
swader999•1h ago
They will still raise prices when renewal time comes around.
bluedino•59m ago
Sad day. Was such an amazing product and gave a start to so many companies back then.
xXSLAYERXx•48m ago
It was the easiest place to host my Rails apps back in the day.
ProfessorZoom•58m ago
more like herok-who?
prodigycorp•56m ago
This may be the worst piece of corporate communication that I've ever seen.
PanMan•56m ago
It really surprises me there isn’t a modern heroku alternative that supports the same.. things. Like build pipelines, routing included, multiple worker types. AWS is way less batteries included. And none of the competitors seems to offer the same kind of service, last time I looked.
culi•49m ago
I think there's a couple decent alternatives out there: https://alternativeto.net/software/heroku/

There are also a lot of cool "self-hosted Heroku" alternatives

- Coolify (PHP) (2020) https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify

- Dokku (Go) (2013) https://github.com/dokku/dokku

- Dokploy (TypeScript) (2024) https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy

- CapRover (TypeScript) (2017) https://github.com/caprover/caprover

- Komodo (Rust) (2022) https://github.com/moghtech/komodo

ezekg•42m ago
Literally nobody who seriously uses Heroku wants to self-host their own Heroku.
emilsedgh•3m ago
We had an enterprise account on Heroku. We invested a little in Dokku and moved to self host it as of a few months ago.

We now have a kubernetes (k3s) backed Dokku self hosted on Hetzner. Significantly cheaper but pretty robust.

Just saying that it's not literally, but you are right, most people wouldn't be interested in self hosting.

Robdel12•50m ago
Salesforce is the worst, lol
xnx•49m ago
Not at all surprising, but a real shame. Nothing that I know of has come close to the ease of the "Deploy to Heroku" button.
baggy_trough•49m ago
It's nice that they would admit this, but it seems a little strange that they would. Why not just never add new features and let people figure it out on their own? A big statement like this seems more like implicitly killing the platform, which is what they say they aren't doing.

I guess the best way to interpret this is that they are killing the platform over time but they don't want to kill it right now since money is still coming in and it would make too many customers mad.

nelsonfigueroa•48m ago
The corporate speak is crazy. I think the update boils down to this sentence:

> Enterprise Account contracts will no longer be offered to new customers

kristapsmors•48m ago
chatgpt translation: Heroku isn’t shutting down, but they’re basically done building new stuff. For those who want to move and potentially save $ in process, here is a nice cost comparison: https://infraslash.com/costs/
kuczmama•47m ago
This is a sad day. I used heroku for years (in the past).

A few alternatives to consider

- https://render.com/ - this is very close to heroku

- https://coolify.io/ - My personal favorite. It's slightly more involved, but you can run it on any hardware like hetzner and save a boatload.

hakanensari•47m ago
So they are going into maintenance mode?
mixtureoftakes•43m ago
i am impressed. no ai can ever write announements this bad
awad•42m ago
For those not as well-versed in corporate PR....Salesforce are going to do just the bare minimum to keep the service going until the revenue dries up (or some > 0 $$ threshold where it just doesn't financially make sense to keep it running).

Pour one out for Heroku as they were truly a revelation back in the day and one of the most magical experiences ever on first run.

czhu12•42m ago
I’ve been developing an open source Heroku alternative so we may never again be gouged for nice deployment pipelines.

https://canine.sh

It supports all the quality of life features like opening a shell via a cli, which I found was one of my favorite parts of Heroku (canine run —myproject /bin/bash)

Been fortunate enough to get a sponsorship from the Portainer folks, which allows me to maintain and develop full time!

Trasmatta•39m ago
This is such a weird press release that totally obscures what it's trying to say. Just use clear and concise language and treat your customers like adults.
singularity2001•2m ago
It's a bit surprising, one would have thought that with the event of accessible coding through agents, such site deployment sites would prosper.

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