Or unfortunately, for the unlucky people who didn't do their research, so now their extra M.2 drives are sucking up some of their GPU's PCIe bus.
I wish you didn't have to buy Xeon or Threadripper to get considerably more PCIe lanes, but for most people I suspect this split is acceptable. The penalty for gaming going from 16x to 8x is pretty small.
I use ROG board that has 4 PCIe slots. While each can physically seat an x16 card, only one of them has 16 lanes -- the rest are x4. I had to demote my GPU to a slower slot in order to get full throughput from my 100GbE card. All this despite having a CPU with 64 lanes available.
> 1x PCI Express x16 slot (PCIEX16), integrated in the CPU:
> AMD Ryzen™ 9000/7000 Series Processors support PCIe 5.0 x16 mode
> * The M2B_CPU and M2C_CPU connectors share bandwidth with the PCIEX16 slot.
> When theM2B_CPU orM2C_CPU connector is populated, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode.
[1]: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-PRO-ICE-rev...
[0] shows a pretty "worst case" impact of 1-4% - that's on the absolute highest-end card possible (a geforce 5090) and pushing it down to 16x PCIe3.0. A lower end card would likely show an even smaller difference. They even showed zero impact from 16xPCIe4.0, which is the same bandwidth as 8x of the PCIe5.0 lanes supported on X870E boards like you mentioned.
Though if you're not on a gaming use case and know you're already PCIe limited it could be larger - but people who have that sort of use case likely already know what to look for, and have systems tuned to that use case more than "generic consumer gamer board"
[0] https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/nvidia-rtx-5090-pcie-50-vs-40-v...
What does this mean? Did they jack up prices?
Same thing that Avego did with Broadcom, LSI, Brocade etc... during the 2010's, buy a market leader, dump the parts that they didn't want, leaving a huge hole in the market.
When you realize that Avego was the brand produced when KKR and Silver Lake bought the chip biz from Agilent, it is just the typical private equity play, buy your market position and sell off or shut down the parts you don't care about.
For homelab purposes I'd rather have two Gen3 x8 slots than one Gen5 x4 slot, as that'd allow me to use a (now ancient) 25G NIC and a HBA. Similarly I'd rather have four Gen5 x1 slots than one Gen5 x4 slot, as Gen5 NVMe SSDs are readily available and even a single Gen5 lane is enough to saturate a 25G network connection and it'd allow me to attach four SSDs instead of only one.
The consumer platforms have more than enough IO bandwidth for some rather interesting home server stuff, it just isn't allocated in a useful way.
example: https://community.frame.work/t/oculink-egpu-works-with-the-d...
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baby_souffle•5h ago
I don't know if anybody has managed to figure out how to defeat hdcp higher than 1.4 though.
mistersquid•5h ago
This works for me: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T64JWWT
mschuster91•5h ago
I'd have expected HDMI LA to be very very strict in enforcing actions against HDCP strippers. If not, why even keep up the game? It's not like pirates can already defeat virtually all copy protection mechanisms on the market, even before HDCP ever enters the field.
mistersquid•4h ago
How is 1 review a "high number of 1-star reviews"?
There are a total of 32 reviews for this device, 2 of which are 1-star reviews. Only one of those warns "Stopped working in 5 minutes". The other 1-star review notes (in translation) "When I tried this device, I got another very bad device at a lower price".
I'm not sure what your expectation that "HDMI LA to be very very strict in enforcing actions against HDCP strippers" means in this context. Indeed, your second paragraph seems to be an expression of consternation that manufacturers would go through the trouble of implementing HDCP given how easily it can be circumvented.
mschuster91•4h ago
It used to be the case that HDMI LA would act very swiftly on any keybox leaks and revoke the certificates, as well as pursuing legal actions against sellers of HDCP strippers. These devices were sold by fly-by-night eBay and darknet sellers, not right on the storefront of Amazon.
> Indeed, your second paragraph seems to be an expression of consternation that manufacturers would go through the trouble of implementing HDCP given how easily it can be circumvented.
Manufacturers do because HDCP is a requirement to even be allowed to use the HDMI trademark, in contrast to DisplayPort. I was referring to HDMI LA and the goons of the movie rightsholder industry that insist on continuing this pointless arms race.
Havoc•3h ago
userbinator•2h ago
Aurornis•1h ago
If the Amazon listing ships from the United States it's a better choice now.
kodt•5h ago
ec109685•4h ago
I bought this a while ago and it works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_... (but is no longer available)
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/1fjbzrz/comment/lp93nd...