If the path of the photons is indeed transverse to the flow of charge, millions of transistors could share a single wavefront.
It makes me raise so many questions. 1 PHz corresponds to a wavelength of 300nm, UV light. How does it make sense? It can't be the transistors we are used to, that's all quantum weirdness at this point. How do you even use them? Things like copper wires feel meaningless at these scales.
A 1 petahertz chip would be 200,000 faster than a 5 gigahertz chip. You've skipped past the terahertz range.
They say the light pulse is 6.5fs FWHM, so they weren't able to switch it on and off 1.6 quadrillion times per second; it's just that the transition from on (29nA) to off (<1nA) was only 630 attoseconds long, which is what they're describing as "petahertz". But "petahertz" implies a whole cycle time under a femtosecond, a cycle which would involve two transitions, which would presumably be 1.26 femtoseconds at this speed. (If they measured the speed of the off-to-on transition, I missed it skimming the paper.) And the actual light they're making the 6.5fs pulse out of is a "supercontinuum laser beam that spans over 400–1000 nm". That's still blue enough to raise some concerns about device longevity (though maybe graphene will prove tougher than certain other semiconductors which shall not be named here), but not to the same degree as if they were using actual petahertz light.
I think the 2× exaggeration is sort of forgivable, and nothing else seems to be intentionally misleading, but it would still be easy to draw incorrect conclusions from the headline.
It would be such a strange mistake to occur on a paper about a topic of this caliber that I feel like I must be missing something.
ChuckMcM•2d ago
It's also kind of funny that you could mine the shit out of Bitcoin with something like this, which would either pay for itself or crash Bitcoin, hard to predict.
Someone•2d ago
Bitcoin has a built-in mechanism to counteract improvements in hashing speed (either because of hardware getting faster, algorithmic improvements, or more hardware getting devoted to hashing).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin#Mining: “The difficulty of generating a block is deterministically adjusted based on the mining power on the network by changing the difficulty target, which is recalibrated every 2,016 blocks (approximately two weeks) to maintain an average time of ten minutes between new blocks“
I think there’s more than enough range available here to handle a million-fold increase in hashing power.
inhumantsar•2d ago
if someone had a monopoly on chips like these, they could dominate the network and freeze out other miners. which would likely tank the network and make those BTC worthless
Someone•2d ago
I guess that didn’t happen because making ASICs is relatively easy, but even if it isn’t, what would be in it for a potential monopolist to tank the value of bitcoin in that way? They better take a large but not overly large part of the market and keep mining money for a long time, only speeding up when a competitor steps in.
jorvi•6h ago
Shorting BTC. But you'd have to gather a humongous mining farm / pool in secret, wait until right after the recalibration and then turn on everything at once, mining those 2016 faster. People would panic, enabling you to close your short positions.
After those 2016 blocks you can just keep mining for a regular return, although I'd just sell the farm to an organisation interested in doing so.
It's a fun theoretical attack, if capital intensive. And aside from the short positions (which you can cover instead of going naked), your capital isn't at risk because the worst result is that you'll own a crypto mining farm.
sigwinch•6h ago
Someone•5h ago
Bitcoin is fairly popular among criminals, so you might also get some people visit you to argue that is best for both of you to give them back the money they lost, using strong arguments such as threats of bodily harm.
Devasta•6h ago
The difficulty will have gone through the roof and transaction processing time by the rest of the network will then slow to a crawl.
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phkahler•4h ago
Does handing transactions require similar amounts of power to mining?
Edit: also, if transactions are ultimately handled by just one or two entities, there will be no point to bitcoin any more.
kragen•4h ago
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gosub100•7h ago
Has anyone even made a flip-flop or latch with any optical transistor yet?
jlokier•4h ago
That said, you don't need flip-flops or latches to calculate SHA-256 for mining Bitcoins. You only need them at the edges of the circuit, to use the results. But you can do that with electronics at the edge, if you want to avoid stateful logic in the all-optical part.
dgfl•6h ago
It might turn out to be great for the applications that they point out in the paper itself, not so much for logic. I would say bitcoin mining discussions are a bit premature, and potentially not relevant.
programjames•4h ago
These exist:
https://ultrafast.mit.edu/
knome•4h ago
at petahertz (10^15) speeds, you could sacrifice a lot of space for larger components, and still come out on top vs gigahertz speeds (10^9) by doing more work but a hell of a lot faster, no?
if you can build a chip that's a million times faster, you can sacrifice 3/4 of that speed to doing more work with fewer components and still be 250,000x faster.
formerly_proven•3h ago
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hulitu•2h ago
So more like an optical triode (the transistor apnplifies).
stretchwithme•2h ago
Just don't sell it all at once.