The flimsy cap gets lost easy and there is an endless amount of ballpoint pens you can click, that don't even need a cap in the first place.
Average clicking ballpoint pens have a plastic that's more comfortable to suck, lick and bite.
I always hated them.
Ballpoint pens are the OG stress relief / concentration / "fidget spinner" toys. Except the BIC ones, those would easily shatter; suddenly finding your mouth to be full of sharp, orange or translucent shards of plastic, is the opposite of calm and focus.
https://postureinfohub.com/how-to-pick-a-tubular-lock-with-a...
I use BIC ballpoint because they are the only ones who don't die when I carry them in my backpack. All others just cease to function for unknown reason or leak.
It’s a ballpoint, with all of the advantages, that writes smoother than any gel.
There is a bit of a learning curve as it glides so freely across paper.
Gel pens are ballpoints. What do you mean by "ballpoint" here?
> Try a Uni-Ball Jetsream
I would never choose to use one of those, since they aren't available in 0.5mm. 0.7mm is too thick.
https://www.unibrands.co/collections/jetstream?filter.v.opti...
However!
The SXN-150 and SXN-155 lines deliver normal capacity 0.5mm Jetstream pens; and their SXR-5 refills deliver single-color 0.5mm Jetstream through the SXR-5 refills.
https://www.mp-uni.com/vn/en/product/jetstream-sport-sxn-155...
https://www.mp-uni.com/sg/product/refill-sxr-5/
You can search for the often-dehyphenated SXR-5 refill compatibility to see what pens they fit besides the official SXN-150 options (like, for example, the Pentel Energel); MP’s own website isn’t listing the options properly on the refill page — they only list the SXN-155/S and not the SXN-150/C, for example — so some footwork would remain to identify precisely which official model numbers are associated with the 0.5mm refill — e.g. the SXN-150 and SXN-157 bodies sold at JetPens are all 0.7mm/1.0mm but accept any SXR-# refill for # in { 38, 5, 7, 10 }. I suspect any SXN-xxx* body where x >= 150 is compatible with any SXR-y refill, since the discontinued SXN-100 seems not to be and the SXN-189DS seems to be.
Note that I found it rather difficult to locate the SXN-155 body by model number for shipping to the United States; the UPCs for whichever models you want, e.g. 4902778040737, were much more efficient in locating options.
TLDR: Yes, there are official Jetstream 0.5mm pens and refills, in addition to modding any SXR-refillable Jetstream with 0.5mm yourself.
“Gel pens” are technically ballpoints, true, but when one says “ballpoint” it’s usually taken to refer to an oil based ballpoint like a Bic, whereas gel ink writes quite differently.
What pens do you find best and what is your use-case?
[0] https://www.jetpens.com/blog/Uni-Jetstream-A-Comprehensive-G...
Except that you forgot to check their website. Jetpens is a reseller.
Uniball only acknowledges 0.5mm for Jetstream pens that include multiple ink tubes in one cylinder.
My use case is that I carry a pen around in my pocket in case I need to write something down. More rarely, I might actually write something down. I don't like writing in thick lines.
The pen I'm currently carrying is one of these: https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/682114580/O1CN01nP4t8J1jh...
I'm not sure what's your point. Uniball doesn't sell 0.5mm on their website, fine, but jetpens does. Is your point that Jetpens are selling fakes? Seems pretty unlikely.
Thick gel pens soak through the paper so they're not great and the thinner nibs break easily or they pierce the paper.
Most times you pick up a pen it's to jot down a quick note or number, a ballpoint makes more sense for that.
It's a lifelong mission to find any such tech product.
PS Also, the handwriting recognition was way ahead of the game.-
It requires too much pressure compared with gel pens, rollerball pens, let alone fountain pens (although the latter are not for everyone). It soon creates fatigue. And at least in my case I also make uglier handwriting with them that with gel pens, rollerball pens, let alone fountain pens.
It's an extremely reliable product to do what it does, as well as extremely cheap, but far from perfect IMO. I see it more as a last resort if nothing else is available.
I picked up a couple bolt action pens for some more heft and put the Pilot rollerball fillers into the pen to get a really pleasant writing experience.
I had one Cristal pen that I managed to hold on to and use through at least three moves and 8+ years, until I finally ran it out of ink. It didn't get lost, destroyed, eaten (by puppies or humans), or quit working -- until there was nothing left of it. It was a small accomplishment, but one that I'm absurdly proud of.
- https://www.penaddict.com/blog/2016/1/17/bic-cristal-ballpoi...
- https://www.jetpens.com/blog/How-the-Ballpoint-Pen-Changed-t...
a book which has a bit on the usage of this and similar Bic models is:
https://www.paulshawletterdesign.com/2012/12/blue-pencil-no-...
(ob. discl., I received a copy (which I gave to my daughter) to write the review: http://ftp.tug.org/TUGboat/tb34-2/tb107reviews-zapfhallmark....) which has the line:
> Some such details are very humbling, such as the exquisitely beautiful design study for Zapfino-like capitals intended for use with Firenze shown with the 49 cent Deluxe Fine Point Bic ballpoint pen used to render the letters (pg. 43).
It's hard to explain how popular they were in NZ, if you asked kids to draw a pen that's what they'd draw.
I also used the plastic clip as a stapler remover.
There were many other uses for it, for sure.
https://mymodernmet.com/paulus-architect-ballpoint-pen-drawi...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Favorite_Thing_Is_Monster...
Very amazing.
I have a pen cup for when I need to jot something quickly and can't be bothered to get my primary pen from another room, and I've noticed that I rarely, if ever, choose the Cristal. Granted, it is far from being the worst pen out there, but I wince at the thought of using it as my daily pen.
Furthermore, I don't think that selling 100 billion copies of a thing is a sign of quality, e.g., see Microsoft's product line.
As for superior design in a similar price category (i.e., get it free at every conference room), hands down, it's the Schneider K15. Solid ink holders, comfortable tip, a nice weight balance (albeit I find it too light overall), with an imo beautiful modernist design as a cherry on top.
I think it's just not very solidly built, and in some set of circumstances (certainly not always) it's prone to making a mess.
(And yeah, I remember the taste of it, too. I've "eaten" through my share of these pens as a kid. It's the one pen you can't bite on, unless you like having shards of orange plastic everywhere.)
It's also magical in a big way - it's almost as if it were enchanted with a "handwriting: -10" debuff, because that's what happens when you try writing with it, relative to anything else (including pencils and crayons). To this day, I occasionally wonder, how did they manage to achieve that distinct effect.
In my circles, BIC as a brand is basically the stuff you don't buy unless as a last resort, whether that's ballpoints or razors or anything else.
https://www.amazon.com/BIC-Orange-Original-Ballpoint-Point/d...
measuring ink capacity in km makes total sense but I find it hilarious
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/0...
I've never noticed any difference other than the line width. Either barrel can shatter if you bite hard enough. They both seem to survive long periods of little or no use better than other brands.
Oh, man, those crap razors. I’m in Whitehorse, Yukon, and the only disposable razors the drug store carries are BIC. I remember that they’re crap, but obviously people must still buy them, how bad could they be?
I would have had fewer nicks and cuts if I’d used my pocket knife.
That said, it's weird how they've completely vanished from my personal landscape. The opaque white Biros are more common now. But I think I'll go seek out a Cristal later today, just for nostalgia's sake.
But if you want to know what the best cheap writing pen, it's the clear pilot pen. Everyone around me uses it. There is also the opaque pilot v5 which was the gold standard when i was in school.
> Marcel Bich bought the patent for the ballpoint pen from Hungarian – Argentine inventor László Bíró
Presumably beating his rivals John Pencil and Wolfgang von Fountain-Pen to it...
As well as being ubiquitous, reliable and cheap, you can also vary the line weight it produces with pressure. This makes it great for sketches and diagrams, as well as straight writing.
Not quite; in New Zealand they're surprisingly rare. I've never seen them for sale there, even though they're common in Australia.
https://fr.bic.com/fr/bic-m10-original-stylos-bille-retracta...
If you like taking analog notes, I highly recommend getting yourself a starter fountain pen and some good paper (emphatically not Moleskin—those work best with pencils; too much bleed with fountain pen ink) and enjoy hand writing as it was meant to be. ;)
[1]: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/08/ballp...
They could have half the ink capacity and most people would barely notice.
The BIC Round Stic, however, I love. I bought a box of sixth like a decade ago and still have like thirty left. Super simple, super cheap, and just great for me.
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From pens to ChatGPT. What a ride.-
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