Ditto for the panels themselves.
No I can't. Just recycle the batteries, and you've solved both concerns in one go. Lead acid batteries have a >99% recycling rate, the economics for recycling EV & grid storage batteries are even better.
It took 20 years of standardisation and effort to raise lead acid batteries to 99%, and they're as simple as batteries get. Large scale recycle of litium batteries (including the cobalt and nickel) requires changes in how batteries are made to be (either or both) less energy dense and more expensive.
Pumped hydro is the best bet for gridscale. And i'm hoping sodium batteries roll out for EVs within the near future.
Ignoring the local effects of their construction, a damb breach is one of the worst man-made disasters possible. Mantinence and error margin must be very very carefully accounted for. There is a reason the world bank stopped funding them, and it wasnt purely enviromental. (Some badly managed projects led to expensive and dangerous situations)
So when relevant it's most powerful energy source avalible. But the list of preconditions and caveats is massive.
The sun doesn’t have this issue. It’s just sunny
China building world's largest hydropower dam in Tibet (reuters.com)
* Hydro project located on Yarlung Zangbo in Tibet
* Project to dwarf Three Gorges Dam on Yangtze River
* Start of construction fuels surge in engineering, related shares in stock market
* India, Bangladesh have expressed concern about the dam's impact
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44631938https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/china-...
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Animats•4h ago
The ideal big dam is Hoover Dam. Large, deep canyon in a desert. Narrow, deep canyon dam site. Hard rock geology. No major towns or agricultural areas in the area to be flooded above the dam. That's the best case.
Most later dams are at worse sites.
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eunoia•4h ago
Cadillac Desert is a great history of American dam building and the Bureau of Reclamation
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janice1999•4h ago
The water requirements of nuclear power stations cooling systems can cause significant issues. The discharge of heated water back into rivers and the sea is also a major problem.
tomrod•4h ago
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marcosdumay•4h ago
So, hell no, nuclear is not competitive with mega-dams. It's not even competitive with small dams.
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bobthepanda•4h ago
> China installed 1GW of nuclear last year, compared to 300GW of solar and wind, Mr Buckley said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2024-07-16/chinas-renewa...
forrestthewoods•5h ago
That is not an intrinsic truth. We have chosen to make it economically unviable.
Most things get cheaper to build with time. Nuclear is an outlier where it used to be affordable and now it isn’t. That’s insane.
permo-w•4h ago
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bryanlarsen•4h ago
Here's how much it cost to build nuclear in France during its golden age: https://ifp.org/nuclear-power-plant-construction-costs. Adjust for inflation and draw your own conclusion.
China's nuclear costs are more opaque, but are estimated at $3B per GW. Again, not competitive.
zahlman•3h ago
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Kon5ole•4h ago
Finland spent 18 years and 11 bn euros to get 1.6 GW of nuclear, the US spent 7bn in subsidies and got some 20 GW of solar in 2022 alone.
Countries going for nuclear will wait decades to get the same power that solar can add in weeks.
Nuclear basically makes no sense at all in 2025.
(For nighttime use dirt-cheap batteries and natural gas now, even cheaper batteries and generated hydrogen gas later).
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cyberax•4h ago
Solar simply can't work alone for northern countries without insane amount of batteries. We're talking about having a MONTH of supply in reserve for Germany. It's probably even worse for Finland.
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aDyslecticCrow•4h ago
Japan builds them in 3 years. USA took about the same during the heights of its use.
kibwen•59m ago
Japan hasn't built a new nuclear plant in 20 years.
umvi•4h ago
Because it doesn't have very many nuclear power plants relative to its size? France has the same number of nuclear reactors as China despite being a much smaller country.
I'd argue 50-60 nuclear power plants having the same energy output as millions (billions?) of solar panels is a win for nuclear - it's much higher energy density, much smaller environmental footprint, much smaller infrastructure investment, etc.
defrost•5m ago
* https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...
* https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profil...