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We Mourn Our Craft

https://nolanlawson.com/2026/02/07/we-mourn-our-craft/
67•ColinWright•1h ago•38 comments

Speed up responses with fast mode

https://code.claude.com/docs/en/fast-mode
19•surprisetalk•1h ago•17 comments

Hoot: Scheme on WebAssembly

https://www.spritely.institute/hoot/
121•AlexeyBrin•7h ago•24 comments

U.S. Jobs Disappear at Fastest January Pace Since Great Recession

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikestunson/2026/02/05/us-jobs-disappear-at-fastest-january-pace-sin...
98•alephnerd•2h ago•51 comments

OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

https://openciv3.org/
824•klaussilveira•21h ago•248 comments

Stories from 25 Years of Software Development

https://susam.net/twenty-five-years-of-computing.html
55•vinhnx•4h ago•7 comments

Al Lowe on model trains, funny deaths and working with Disney

https://spillhistorie.no/2026/02/06/interview-with-sierra-veteran-al-lowe/
53•thelok•3h ago•6 comments

The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/02/07/ai-spending-economy-shortages/
103•1vuio0pswjnm7•8h ago•118 comments

The Waymo World Model

https://waymo.com/blog/2026/02/the-waymo-world-model-a-new-frontier-for-autonomous-driving-simula...
1057•xnx•1d ago•608 comments

Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback

https://rlhfbook.com/
76•onurkanbkrc•6h ago•5 comments

Start all of your commands with a comma (2009)

https://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2009/commands-with-comma/
478•theblazehen•2d ago•175 comments

Vocal Guide – belt sing without killing yourself

https://jesperordrup.github.io/vocal-guide/
203•jesperordrup•11h ago•69 comments

France's homegrown open source online office suite

https://github.com/suitenumerique
547•nar001•5h ago•253 comments

Coding agents have replaced every framework I used

https://blog.alaindichiappari.dev/p/software-engineering-is-back
215•alainrk•6h ago•333 comments

Selection Rather Than Prediction

https://voratiq.com/blog/selection-rather-than-prediction/
8•languid-photic•3d ago•1 comments

A Fresh Look at IBM 3270 Information Display System

https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/a-fresh-look-at-ibm-3270-information-display-system
35•rbanffy•4d ago•7 comments

72M Points of Interest

https://tech.marksblogg.com/overture-places-pois.html
28•marklit•5d ago•2 comments

Unseen Footage of Atari Battlezone Arcade Cabinet Production

https://arcadeblogger.com/2026/02/02/unseen-footage-of-atari-battlezone-cabinet-production/
113•videotopia•4d ago•30 comments

Where did all the starships go?

https://www.datawrapper.de/blog/science-fiction-decline
73•speckx•4d ago•74 comments

Software factories and the agentic moment

https://factory.strongdm.ai/
68•mellosouls•4h ago•73 comments

Show HN: Look Ma, No Linux: Shell, App Installer, Vi, Cc on ESP32-S3 / BreezyBox

https://github.com/valdanylchuk/breezydemo
273•isitcontent•21h ago•38 comments

Learning from context is harder than we thought

https://hy.tencent.com/research/100025?langVersion=en
199•limoce•4d ago•111 comments

Monty: A minimal, secure Python interpreter written in Rust for use by AI

https://github.com/pydantic/monty
285•dmpetrov•22h ago•153 comments

Making geo joins faster with H3 indexes

https://floedb.ai/blog/how-we-made-geo-joins-400-faster-with-h3-indexes
155•matheusalmeida•2d ago•48 comments

Show HN: Kappal – CLI to Run Docker Compose YML on Kubernetes for Local Dev

https://github.com/sandys/kappal
21•sandGorgon•2d ago•11 comments

Ga68, a GNU Algol 68 Compiler

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/PEXRTN-ga68-intro/
43•matt_d•4d ago•18 comments

Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

https://hackers-1995.vercel.app/
555•todsacerdoti•1d ago•268 comments

Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Technical Info

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
424•ostacke•1d ago•110 comments

An Update on Heroku

https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
473•lstoll•1d ago•313 comments

Show HN: If you lose your memory, how to regain access to your computer?

https://eljojo.github.io/rememory/
348•eljojo•1d ago•215 comments
Open in hackernews

Supervised fine tuning on curated data is reinforcement learning

https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.12856
71•GabrielBianconi•6mo ago

Comments

mandevil•6mo ago
Interesting to see two independent researchers on this. Makes me curious as to what the back-story is? Side project?
babelfish•6mo ago
Especially interesting given they both work for Google DeepMind.
GabrielBianconi•6mo ago
Yeah, I hadn't noticed!
jtspringenberg•6mo ago
Author here, just to clarify: we are both no longer working for DeepMind. This was purely an independent effort for the sake of research and understanding! Happy to answer any questions.
iandanforth•6mo ago
How is this kind of analogy helpful? You can frame any optimization problem as RL if you try hard enough. RL is a method of optimization which calls the optimum "reward maximization". You can craft the reward function any which way you want.

The key point about RL is that it is a sequential decision making process. If you don't have something (an agent) making multiple decisions over time while interacting with an environment, then why bother calling it RL?

imtringued•6mo ago
I personally am quite disappointed by the abstract:

"Building on existing literature, we clarify that SFT can be understood as maximizing a lower bound on the RL objective in a sparse reward setting."

uh no? SFT is maximizing the RL objective in a dense reward setting. The entire point of RL, specifically actor-critic and Q-Learning, is that the RL method turns the sparse reward into a continuous dense reward against which a model can be trained on with classic gradient descent.

I mean look at the definition of Q-Learning and the bellman equation it uses. It maximizes the current reward by choosing the current action based on whether it maximizes the predicted reward, not the actual reward, which doesn't have to be continuous or produce a gradient. You can build an RL based maze solver where only the goal gives a reward to the model and it would work, albeit it would train extremely slowly.

Meanwhile supervised fine tuning always produces a continuous gradient on every single token.

chongliqin•6mo ago
TD-based approaches can have an advantage in sparse reward settings, but they come with a heap of other problems especially in the off-policy setting (see the deadly triad) and are typically not used for LLM training.

We here make a connection to REINFORCE style policy gradients which would not show any of the behavior you mentioned above.

anndvision•6mo ago
We recently ran similar experiments and saw that fine-tuning small models on automatically curated high-quality outputs from a large model can beat large-model performance while reducing inference costs by up to 30x and inference time by up to 4x.

We benchmarked closed-source (OpenAI, Google) and open-source (Qwen) models on multi-turn maze navigation (BabyAI), agentic RAG (Multi-Hop), and agentic tool use (τ-bench).

We're still running a few experiments and plan to update the post with additional results in a few days.

Looking forward to trying out importance weighting soon!

Curated Behavior Cloning: Small LLMs Can Beat Large Ones at 5-30x Lower Cost: https://www.tensorzero.com/blog/curated-behavior-cloning-sma...

chongliqin•6mo ago
Cool! If you are interested, we have open sourced our code: https://github.com/emmyqin/iw_sft
anndvision•6mo ago
thanks
TheTaytay•6mo ago
Thanks for this - I’ve spent the last hour reading your docs and blog. I like the primitives you’ve exposed in your APO, and particularly like the decision to separate out the structured inputs from the prompt when you record an LLM call, so I can finally perform optimizations and evals on past calls.

Quick question : you mentioned unsloth in the blog post. Which of the fine tuning providers mentioned is using unsloth under the hood?

GabrielBianconi•6mo ago
[I'm his coworker.] We ran Unsloth ourselves on a GPU-by-the-hour server. We have a notebook in the repository showing how to query historical data and use it with Unsloth.

It's a WIP PR that we plan to merge soon: https://github.com/tensorzero/tensorzero/pull/2273

henriquegodoy•6mo ago
It's cool to see the perspective that many problems (somekinda communication problems, look at lawyers, compliance and etc...) can be solved by treating AI less as agents and more as modular components within a larger system. Once we build a working process—monitored through evals—we can then reduce costs by distilling these modules. That means starting with superintelligent models and later distilling them down to just a few billion parameters, instead of needing hundreds of billions.
stolencode•6mo ago
> For example achieving 66.7% on the AIME 2024 dataset.

We worked _really_ hard, burned _tons_ of cash, and we're proud of our D- output. No wonder there are more papers published than actual work being done.

supermdguy•6mo ago
That corresponds to a 10/15, which is actually really good (median is around 6)

https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/AMC_historica...

stolencode•6mo ago
Isn't the test taken only by students under the age of 12?

Meanwhile the model is trained on these specific types of problems, does not have an apparent time or resource limit, and does not have to take the test in a proctored environment.

It's D- work. Compared to a 12 year old, okay, maybe it's B+. Is this really the point you wanted to make?

jpcompartir•6mo ago
This is a nonsense critique.

Modest results are worth publishing, as are bad results.

markisus•6mo ago
Something seems off with equation (5).

Just imagining Monte Carlo sampling it, the middle expectation will have a bunch of zeros due to the indicator function and the right expectation won’t.

I can make the middle expectation be as close to zero as I like by making the success threshold sufficiently high.

chongliqin•6mo ago
Ah yes you are right the rhs was meant to be proportional to the middle expectation (see the equation below), for equality the rhs needs to be multiplied by a normalization constant independent of theta. Note this doesn't affect the bounds as the constant is the same across equations. Will update the paper to incorporate.