Or rather not mention them at all. He'd rather not bring attention to the topic to begin with.

The numbers get better as they get more data.

Such an organization cannot exist. These agencies are always balancing two opposing forces, timeliness and accuracy. Data collection is inherently delayed (e.g. a lot of it is from surveys that businesses complete at their own speed, or from reports that each state/agency submits on their own timeline.) So collection for a given quarter typically completes long after the quarter is over, and then it takes some time to crunch those numbers.

So if you want early data it will inherently be of limited accuracy because that involves a lot of extrapolation with whatever incomplete data has been collected by that time. If you want accurate data you will have to wait for it because that data takes longer to be collected. You do want both because you need to make timely decisions, since most times the early numbers don't get revised by much, but you also want to course-correct when later, better data gives a different signal.

Agencies like the BLS publish their methodologies in great detail. Big revisions have always been happening, only they are getting more attention these days because of the heavy politicization.

How massively incorrect are the numbers in comparison to previous years? Was it anything unusual?

Here, take a look for yourself: https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesnaicsrev.htm#2024

If this is an understood part of the process, why is it such a problem now?

Name some organizations that have "fire employees until we get success". Does that create a culture that prizes success, or just encourage employees to hide failure?

I think you understand how labor statistics work about as well as Trump.

Yeah, tin party soldier never questions anything.

It IS THE GOVERNMENT

The President just fired the person in charge of reporting jobs numbers because he didn’t like the report.

Logically what do you think is about to happen?

On this topic- last year it was somewhat common for R politicians to criticize the D regime for the “report high, revise low” strategy - if anything, I guess, this firing has been telegraphed. Anyway, those people were also called conspiracy theorists and politically motivated. There’s clearly a conflict of interest between the facts and what is politically expedient on all sides of the political system in the USA.

I personally would prefer that the jobs numbers apparatus was extremely conservative in the sense that it didn’t overstate the strength of the USA economy. I doubt Trump has that goal in mind necessarily, laudable as it might be.

Yeah, firing the labor statistics head because Trump say she's been faking the numbers to make him look bad actually makes it seem both obviously politically motivated and casts whatever comes after into doubt. Now their credibility is degraded.

That's different from just saying the numbers are obviously being faked under Biden or whatever with no real evidence because you just feel like the economy is bad and assume corruption. Now there actually does seem to be corruption!

Wouldn’t the deportations increase the demand for low-paying jobs resulting in increasing salaries?

> hard for me to imagine how deporting a million illegal immigrants working under the table, or stealing a social security number, would hurt the minimum wage workers

Immigration is a distraction. Trump is deporting fewer folks than Obama did [1], he’s just doing it while pumping tens of billions to his buddies via ICE contracts.

Tariffs are a regressive tax. If food and metal is more expensive, service and manufacturing workers will be pinches.

[1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-deportations-trump-six-mont...

Even in the most facile analysis: Reduced labor availability either (a) decreases supply due to failure to harvest or (b) increases prices due to increased labor costs and therefore drives inflation higher faster than bottom-tier wages can accommodate.

Ah yes, blame a different group of poorly-paid workers - that always works so well!

Tfa mentions immigrant deportation as a reason exactly zero times.

Perhaps if we taxed the billionaires more we could subsidize increased wages for small business owners or even do something actually good like provide universal basic income so that they cannot be so easily exploited for wildly undervalued labor

You view this as zero sum. How many new business owners would be created if people had enough to save? How many new businesses would exist if more money was flowing in the economy? Should businesses exist if they can't pay livable wages?

These aren't hypothetical questions. We have an answer for them all over the country where state minimum wages are rising in Democratic states.

McDonalds were going to do that anyway.

And what's the point of a minimum wage of it doesn't provide a living? That's just letting private enterprise piggyback off the welfare system.

I'm obviously not an expert, but assumed the same thing. I watched a fast food joint near me go from 9/hr to 21/hr in just a few years. Maybe that was just pandemic pricing, I don't know.

But getting >2x salary in such short order is outpacing pretty much everyone else, percentage wise.

Median real wages are up since the 80s by quite a bit:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

> Decades of worsening conditions for the commoner is Ron Wyden's idea of a booming economy. Democrats are useful idiots.

I can't anymore, folks. Republicans passed the largest tax cuts for billionaires, increased the deficit by trillions, and kicked millions of people of medicaid. Meanwhile, Trump is out there creating the most regressive tax system via tariffs we've ever seen which affect the poorest the most.

Yet Democrats are the useful idiots. Incredible.

Fairly certain the OP was talking about an annual "cost of living" adjustment, and not job searching for a better offer.