According to the EPA safe level for flouride for drinking water is up to 4 mg/L. The epa level for PFOS is 0.000004 mg/L, literally a million times lower.
Isn't that supposed to be some kind of demonic juice?
Why else is the government so intent on making sure that there's none in our water? I'm sure that they would much rather have the PFAS, produced by their nice, generous, industrialist bros.
I think they use this stuff: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/sand-won-t-save-yo...
nick238•2d ago
1. Invent fantastic new material that does a heretofore novel reaction or one with improved performance (chemical, photovoltaic, etc.)
2. Do #1 without lead, cadmium, mercury, or arsenic.
SociallyAwesomeAwkwardPenguinMeme("Turns PFAS to fluoride", "Contains Cadmium")
momoschili•2d ago
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djtango•2d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalyst_poisoning
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throwup238•2d ago
The problem with those catalysts is that the latter two are minor components of platinum and copper/nickel ores and despite how expensive they are, the extraction is only economically viable as part of other mining. Their supply can only grow as much as platinum extraction allows and demand is already pretty significant with environmental regulations often necessitating their use. Any more demand for them will cause their prices to rise dramatically and its a long way before they become profitable enough to mine on their own (flooding the platinum market in the process which has much higher yields from the ores).
SoftTalker•2d ago
Doesn't get rid of them, to be clear. It would still be better if a way could be found to chemically (and cheaply) convert them to something less harmful.
N2yhWNXQN3k9•2d ago
Seems like the limitation must be more than reducing concentrations in fluid? Otherwise you'd just do multiple passes?
BugsJustFindMe•2d ago
Common inexpensive non-RO filter systems come with independent test results showing 99% removal of PFOA/PFOS (see e.g https://www.brondell.com/content/UC300_Coral_PDS.pdf). Do we have reason to believe that other PFAS don't filter as easily?
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KennyBlanken•2d ago
Invent seemingly fantastic new material. Discover it is harmful to humans and wildlife, accumulates in groundwater, etc. Bury that discovery.
Get caught after decades of wild profits, the occasional secret settlement, and spend a decade more fighting legal action before finally running out of appeals or the writing is on the wall, and accept it and pay out.
Start selling water filtration systems, thus profiting off people dealing with your pollution.
This is what I find so frustrating about "the fight against cancer." I'm convinced cancer is so prevalent because corporations are poisoning the shit out of our environment, and thus our water supply, our food, our air. Because we're not equipped with timestamping chemical detection systems, it's difficult to identify the exposure that caused it or increased the person's risk, so industry gets a "freebie" death nobody can pin to them. As long as the chemical isn't toxic enough to be obvious - the companies get away scott free, despite an extensive history of the chemical industry time and time again coming up with some major novel chemical that comes to be used all over society and turns out to be toxic.
Bill Moyers once submitted his blood to a lab and asked them to test for everything they could identify in terms of industrial chemicals, pesticides, etc. The blood was a veritable toxic soup (and some of the control sample containers were contaminated from the supplier, showing how pervasive the toxins are): https://www.pbs.org/tradesecrets/problem/popup_bb_02.html
You don't "fight cancer" doing walks and charity balls and cute-kid-starts-fundraiser-because-friend-dies-from-leukemia. You fight cancer by addressing the toxins being pumped into us in the name of profit and "bettering society", allowed to get away with it because of how difficult it is to show any particular chemical directly caused the cancer.
anonymars•2d ago
PS not to diminish GE's game but they certainly weren't the only player. This one always stuck with me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease#Wastewater_tr...
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