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NPM debug and chalk packages compromised

https://www.aikido.dev/blog/npm-debug-and-chalk-packages-compromised
344•universesquid•1h ago•161 comments

Signal Secure Backups

https://signal.org/blog/introducing-secure-backups/
62•keyboardJones•35m ago•29 comments

Job Mismatch and Early Career Success

https://www.nber.org/papers/w34215
51•jandrewrogers•1h ago•6 comments

Our data shows San Francisco tech workers are working Saturdays

https://ramp.com/velocity/san-francisco-tech-workers-996-schedule
40•hnaccount_rng•54m ago•28 comments

Experimenting with Local LLMs on macOS

https://blog.6nok.org/experimenting-with-local-llms-on-macos/
113•frontsideair•2h ago•68 comments

OpenWrt: A Linux OS targeting embedded devices

https://openwrt.org/
33•pykello•1h ago•5 comments

Clankers Die on Christmas

https://remyhax.xyz/posts/clankers-die-on-christmas/
109•jerrythegerbil•2h ago•53 comments

Dietary omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids as a protective factor of myopia

https://bjo.bmj.com/content/early/2025/08/17/bjo-2024-326872
52•FollowingTheDao•2h ago•28 comments

Will Amazon S3 Vectors Kill Vector Databases–Or Save Them?

https://zilliz.com/blog/will-amazon-s3-vectors-kill-vector-databases-or-save-them
30•Fendy•1h ago•27 comments

Firefox 32-bit Linux Support to End in 2026

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/05/firefox-32-bit-linux-support-to-end-in-2026/
20•AndrewDucker•3d ago•3 comments

Google gets away almost scot-free in US search antitrust case

https://www.computerworld.com/article/4052428/google-gets-away-almost-scot-free-in-us-search-anti...
114•CrankyBear•1h ago•48 comments

Meta suppressed research on child safety, employees say

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2025/09/08/meta-research-child-safety-virtual-reality/
302•mdhb•4h ago•172 comments

Browser Fingerprint Detector

https://fingerprint.goldenowl.ai/
29•eustoria•2h ago•20 comments

Immich – High performance self-hosted photo and video management solution

https://github.com/immich-app/immich
236•rzk•9h ago•77 comments

Building an acoustic camera with UMA-16 and Acoular

https://www.minidsp.com/applications/usb-mic-array/acoustic-camera-uma16
16•tomsonj•3d ago•1 comments

A complete map of the Rust type system

https://rustcurious.com/elements/
59•ashvardanian•4h ago•3 comments

14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/massive-protests-in-nepal-over-social-media-ban/
480•whatsupdog•5h ago•321 comments

Using Claude Code to modernize a 25-year-old kernel driver

https://dmitrybrant.com/2025/09/07/using-claude-code-to-modernize-a-25-year-old-kernel-driver
789•dmitrybrant•17h ago•257 comments

What if artificial intelligence is just a "normal" technology?

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/09/04/what-if-artificial-intelligence-is-jus...
36•mooreds•4h ago•25 comments

RSS Beat Microsoft

https://buttondown.com/blog/rss-vs-ice
178•vidyesh•6h ago•118 comments

The MacBook has a sensor that knows the exact angle of the screen hinge

https://twitter.com/samhenrigold/status/1964428927159382261
946•leephillips•1d ago•453 comments

Why Is Japan Still Investing in Custom Floating Point Accelerators?

https://www.nextplatform.com/2025/09/04/why-is-japan-still-investing-in-custom-floating-point-acc...
176•rbanffy•2d ago•58 comments

VMware's in court again. Customer relationships rarely go this wrong

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/08/vmware_in_court_opinion/
178•rntn•5h ago•114 comments

American Flying Empty Airbus A321neo Across the Atlantic 20 Times

https://onemileatatime.com/news/american-flying-empty-airbus-a321neo-across-atlantic/
34•corvad•1h ago•34 comments

We Rarely Lose Technology (2023)

https://www.hopefulmons.com/p/we-rarely-lose-technology
37•akkartik•3d ago•38 comments

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Adventure Prototype Recovered for the C64

https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/2025/09/indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade-adventure-prototype-re...
76•ibobev•5h ago•8 comments

Formatting code should be unnecessary

https://maxleiter.com/blog/formatting
299•MaxLeiter•18h ago•398 comments

'We can do it for under $100M': Startup joins race to build local ChatGPT

https://www.afr.com/technology/we-can-do-it-for-under-100m-start-up-joins-race-to-build-local-cha...
44•yakkomajuri•2h ago•10 comments

Integer Programming (2002) [pdf]

https://web.mit.edu/15.053/www/AMP-Chapter-09.pdf
19•todsacerdoti•3d ago•4 comments

Writing by manipulating visual representations of stories

https://github.com/m-damien/VisualStoryWriting
38•walterbell•3d ago•8 comments
Open in hackernews

VMware's in court again. Customer relationships rarely go this wrong

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/08/vmware_in_court_opinion/
178•rntn•5h ago

Comments

wkat4242•4h ago
The bigger issue is, if you're refusing to honour a contract as a vendor, not only do you risk a lawsuit like this one. But more importantly, who is ever going to sign up for another contract with you? You just proved it isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Unwritten terms like "valid until I decide to tear it up haha lol" are not generally appreciated by companies that depend on your stuff for their business. Of course you can extort your existing customers until they manage to move away but basically in the longer term you're suiciding your entire business.

spwa4•4h ago
So switch to openstack or kubernetes (with kubevirt if you want VMs). Open source. Way more beautiful design.

With Kubernetes, actually fast storage if you need it. Can scale up to AI demands if you need it.

Or proxmox or the like if you're small enough.

tedivm•4h ago
It feels like that's the direction most people are going in, but that doesn't change the fact that no one is going to trust Broadcom again after this.
bluGill•3h ago
After this? Many people didn't trust Broadcom even before they bought vmware. This isn't something new on Boardcoms part, though it is high visibility and so people not even aware of Broadcom before are now.
stego-tech•4h ago
My beef with K8s (and to be clear, it’s the leanest cut of beef from the deli - so not much substance to it) is that unless you pay someone else to manage the Control Plane for you, you’re not only going to need to upskill your workers on K8s itself but also administering the components of the Control Plane, like HA, etcd, storage, network plane, etc.

Compared to standing up literally any Linux distro and KVM, K8s remains an overly complex PITA to get off the ground and integrated into an org on the cheap/free. In that area, it handily loses to even Microsoft Hyper-V in the “just get us going” category of business adoption/velocity.

I’d really, really like to see K8s more streamlined for initial deployment than it is. It’s getting better, but I generally still have to grudgingly recommend a premium, managed control plane for any serious deployment.

imglorp•3h ago
For small on-prem shops that don't really want to learn about running k8s, and have under a few dozen nodes, there are definitely slim options, like Talos is basically boot to k8s, and for single app level, there's things like multi-node k0s. Tech like this means you can reduce the control plane labor and focus on the workload.

https://www.talos.dev

https://docs.k0sproject.io/v0.11.0/k0s-multi-node

stego-tech•2h ago
Talos is on my shortlist but its core “grease” features remain locked behind a (reasonable, but still existent) subscription, which throws it into “premium management layer” territory for me and my odd slide deck for executives. The narrative for the past fifteen years has consistently been “we have no money for what we need because we spent it all on what Gartner suggested and a consultant told us we should have”, which means we’re constantly having to not only do more with less, but also rely heavily on “pre-greased” products like hypervisors.

I don’t like it, but that’s how the current technology environment is unfortunately setup.

God help the enterprise software segment if customers realize 90% of their needs are served perfectly well with KVM+QEMU and VMs.

63stack•2h ago
Word for word my experience with operating k8s.
stego-tech•2h ago
To be clear: I like K8s! It’s fun to be able to write some YAML, apply it, and be done!

But the sheer work of getting to that point, safely and securely? It ruins the experience for me, personally.

spwa4•1h ago
What would you like setup to look like?

Would there be real interest in a kubernetes distro that takes IPs and a (set of) domain names, and boots up on N nodes, installing letsencrypt, so that you can do a deployment and have ingress actually working?

andrewinardeer•4h ago
Pretty sure in Tesco's case switching to openstack is a decade long project.
bluGill•3h ago
I think they can do it in 5 years with some investment. Which is how long they need Broadcom to honor the current contract. The effort is mostly technical, and much of it you can just hire contractors to help.
bananapub•4h ago
that doesn’t seem to be an issue in this case, since it’s exactly what everyone expects Broadcom to do in any given situation. their victims/customers are people stuck on the platform from before Broadcom bought it.
stego-tech•4h ago
This.

I had to tell CurrentCo that I cannot reinstall their vSphere deployment at a client site because they bought a perpetual license, didn’t migrate it to Broadcom before they cut it off, and now we cannot simply go get the latest patch or appliance for that version number without inviting an audit and a sueball from Broadcom.

“Good thing Microsoft would never do that to us.”

Ha. Hahaha.

ocdtrekkie•4h ago
At least VMware isn't user-facing and it can be removed without riots. Imagine trying to tell someone they don't need Excel. I try to maintain at least plausible flexibility to go tell vendors to shove it, but if you have some enthusiastic fans of Microsoft Teams (they exist, who knew?)... Teams is one of those things that is inescapably tied to an incredibly deep well of platform lock-in.
snapplebobapple•4h ago
Really? Teams?? We went teams abd microsoft ecosystem fully because we needed extra windows management stuff as we have grown and users had software that required windows and excel and the biggest pain point has been teams. As near as i can tell it tries to do everythibg wrong and the things that are so blindingly obvious that it can't do them wrong, it finds a way to do them suboptimally
ocdtrekkie•3h ago
I would never invent a lie as implausible as this. Yes, there are fans of Microsoft Teams. They're out there and they make decisions.
CamelCaseName•3h ago
I... I like Teams...
dijit•3h ago
So, in the spirit of intellectual curiousity, and I will avoid making any judgements in any of my responses, I have 5 questions:

1) Have you ever been exposed to alternative communicators?

2) What features do you enjoy about teams

3) What platform are you using it from (Windows Desktop / Laptop? What spec)

4) Have you ever written a bot or integration?

5) Can you take me through a very brief working day for you, with a focus on collaborating with others.. (file sharing, online chats, IRL chats, meetings?)

axus•3h ago
I'll give my own interpretation. Not that I love Teams, but the alternative in a dinosaur corporation is basically email.

1) WebEx and the open source chat that Oracle appropriated. Fortunately Zoom came and went too quickly.

2) Searching the Exchange corporate directory. BASIC features: status, embedding pictures, attaching files that Outlook would block. Sharing links that aren't obfuscated.

3) Can you even run Teams from Apple / Linux?

4) Ha! Imagine the nightmares for the person linking Atlassian and Teams.

5) Group texts, file shares, voice calls, recorded meetings. Meetings with groups from other companies is almost painless.

dijit•2h ago
> 1) WebEx and the open source chat that Oracle appropriated. Fortunately Zoom came and went too quickly.

Ok, then I can see why Teams ranks among them. I would invite you to try something like Zulip or Mattermost but I think ignorance is bliss and you should avoid knowing about anything that could be better. Your mind might do this for you (rejection) but best not to tempt fate.

> 2) Searching the Exchange corporate directory. BASIC features: status, embedding pictures, attaching files that Outlook would block. Sharing links that aren't obfuscated.

Appreciate the list, the only one of these that's Teams specific is searching a corp directory. Do you use the "Teams" functionality, or do you use the chat exclusively?

> 3) Can you even run Teams from Apple / Linux?

Yes, it's very slow. It's also very slow from laptops, the best "Teams experience" I've ever seen has been in GameDev where we all ran Windows 7 on dodecacore CPUs with 128-256G of DDR4.

It was still slower than Slack on my macbook air though.

> 4) Ha! Imagine the nightmares for the person linking Atlassian and Teams.

Yeah, people do. People also use Excel from within Teams.

Writing bots for Teams is a special nightmare, but webhooks can work.

> 5) Group texts, file shares, voice calls, recorded meetings. Meetings with groups from other companies is almost painless.

Do you spend a lot of your day face-to-face or more of your day in Teams?

Do you find yourself arranging meetings to sync rather than using the chat functionality?

Do you find that people have to ask around a lot to get an answer and then ask again later when it's forgotten, or can they find their answer in history?

masfuerte•2h ago
Is native Teams on Linux still a thing? I had it installed but the package disappeared from the MS repository. I currently use the web version.
dijit•2h ago
Quite right, it seems that Teams for Linux is discontinued.

Guess this means I wont' get to run Teams in the company I'm joining, which is doing all its security attestation via Microsoft;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32678839

vondur•1h ago
The web version runs fine in a chromium based browser.
inetknght•1h ago
It also refuses to run well in non-Chromium-based browsers.

Yet more vendor lock-in.

jabl•2h ago
There is a PWA you can install, with it's own icon and everything. Yes, it's a not-even-glorified-web-browser, but meh, it works (for some definition of works).
axus•2h ago
Someone patiently explained and introduced the "Teams" feature of "Teams" to me. It's easy to ignore. Here's a tough one: ever used a Microsoft Loop component?

My preference is text chat but we do a lot of unscheduled voice chats when screen-sharing is involved. In-person meetings are nice when possible, it's been easy enough to connect a Teams meeting from a conference room phone.

Before Teams I set up a Mattermost instance, and I think RocketChat integrated to GitLab? Nobody used those. As we all know the value in these things comes from network effects; with Teams corporate IT can set Teams as a startup app by Domain policy, now everyone in your company has to be online. That's the real killer feature.

mr_toad•2h ago
> 3) Can you even run Teams from Apple

Unfortunately. Teams is just as performant on MacOS/iOS as it is on Windows.

lenkite•2h ago
Teams is a React App. Teams classic uses Electron - so perf was identical. The New Teams uses native platform web-view, so mileage may slightly vary. Still a React App, though. sighs.
javcasas•1h ago
Teams works better in a browser window in Linux where if it hogs too much CPU Cromium pulls the plug.

That's how I run it.

inetknght•1h ago
> Fortunately Zoom came and went too quickly.

I've used both Teams and Zoom (and others). Honestly, I'd rather use Zoom instead of Teams.

> BASIC features: status, embedding pictures, attaching files that Outlook would block. Sharing links that aren't obfuscated.

Status is settable by just about any competitor to Teams. Slack and Zoom both can set your current status.

Embedding pictures and files is also not unique to Teams.

Obfuscated links? Just a matter of time before Microsoft changes that to some microsoft link for a "vulnerability scanner" and then charges the company for the privilege to block random things it doesn't understand how to scan.

> Can you even run Teams from Apple / Linux?

Yes / technically yes (not supported any more)

> Group texts, file shares, voice calls, recorded meetings. Meetings with groups from other companies is almost painless.

Slack and Zoom are better at all of these.

d0100•1h ago
Teams is fine, especially as others are so expensive for small non-US shops

We already have to bite the bullet and pay for office, at least we get free chat

I wish Teams integrated better with Github Issues/PR, but it works well as a company-wide chat

dijit•1h ago
No, Teams is not fine.

If cost is your concern: SaaS Zulip is free.

SoftTalker•54m ago
Yeah, it's fine. It's apps in a browser. It basically works. It's as good as anything else I've tried.
fhars•18m ago
Teams brings back a sense of adventure into boring online meetings since you never know what works subtly different than id did last week and who will be made to act the clown due to strange glitches.

Poor mac users.

ecshafer•3h ago
The only way you could be a fan of teams is if you've only ever had to use stuff like cisco connect or lotus notes chat. It really is just terrible. Teams on my window laptop makes the fan go more than running a pretty massive compute cluster, its crazy how non performant it is.
gotbeans•3h ago
You didn't really say much of what does it do wrong or right, you seem to just try to convey a for-granted idea.

I've been an msft employee for a couple of years and teams... Was ok. I prefer slack, but meetings, video, messaging, formatting, etc. was just fine in teams.

spogbiper•1h ago
i agree. teams is "ok", for my purposes at least. don't really understand the hate it gets in certain forums
firesteelrain•3h ago
I’ve got users rioting over the fact that we might remove Mattermost and move them to Skype/Teams. Note that I am in airgap and can’t use Slack. I am looking at Rocket.Chat though since MM is $$$$$!
dathinab•2h ago
> someone they don't need Excel

well I have news for you ;=)

I pity the people who have to deliver news like that from time to time.

yndoendo•2h ago
You don't need Excel. Have not used it in over 10 years.

Teams, that application IT is forcing me to use because they are a "Microsoft" house. Same application currently stating I'm on the _Calendar_ screen on the Task bar but actually in the _Chat_ screen; _Calendar_ bloatware feature and others have been removed and will always. Even when _Microsoft_ screws the user and force a reinstall of features after a Teams update.

Microsoft is a trillion dollar company that rejects quality user experience, QA, and is great at producing crap-ware. There is not a single product sell that I will spend a penny on. Still waiting on that 7+ year request to destroy | delete dangling pull request in Azure.

dcminter•1h ago
> You don't need Excel

This is the kind of thing that gets tech people a bad reputation. YOU don't need Excel. I don't need excel - but that guy? You have no idea what he needs and if the people he's supporting need (or just want) Excel to get their jobs done it is incredibly arrogant to tell him what he does or doesn't need.

Now, I've loathed Microsoft since the 90s, but that makes me a weird and special little petal - it doesn't count for squat in business.

SoftTalker•56m ago
Right, and even "that guy" might not need Excel but the second he opens up Libreoffice or Google Sheets and something doesn't work the way he's used to, he will say it's broken. He's not interested in learning how LibreOffice or Google does it, he's just trying to close a $5m deal. And he's not wrong.
magicalhippo•4h ago
Isn't their whole strategy that they want to squeeze the customers they got by the balls?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE

ocdtrekkie•4h ago
Mostly they seem committed to drop smaller customers and pursue very lucrative deals with large companies only. But to do that they should be valuing those relationships with the big customers, and they clearly aren't doing that either.
stackskipton•4h ago
Ops person here, VMware is so embedded at these companies that switching away would be like Google saying, no more gRPC, everything is now SOAP. The amount of impacts is just too mind boggling to even consider.

2 companies ago was heavily invested in VMware. It impacted monitoring, backups, deployments, networking, cloud migration and more. I can only shudder at level of effort they might be going through to get off VMware.

Because of that, they probably won’t for years even as Broadcom screws them over.

raverbashing•4h ago
The bias with technical people is thinking every problem is technical

VMWare may have hiked the prices and might be an important dependency but at a certain point it is cheaper to sue and/or switch from them.

Seems that they have gone way past this point

bluGill•3h ago
Switching away today is too mind boggling to consider, but switching is purely a technical problem. We can put a price on the costs, and the time. VMWare was founded in 1998 - that means 27 year ago nobody was using it, and in turn we can say took you less than 27 years to get dependent on and - surely you can switch to something else in 27 years. More likely you can switch in 2 years - that is about what it took one company I know of.
stackskipton•2h ago
Sure but old company cut Ops team to the bone, which is why I don’t work there anymore. So CTO is faced with, pay VMware or cut back on deployments so Ops team can have some breathing room to work on migration to whatever they pick.
zhengyi13•2h ago
... Google did say "No more Oracle EBS" and switched entirely to SAP. It took multiple years, and it was not a small effort, but there was the will, and a way was found.
stackskipton•2h ago
sigh I didn’t work at FAANG type, we don’t hire FAANG skill level. Whatever Google did is completely irrelevant to this conversation and most other conversations.
kstrauser•39m ago
In my experience, FAANG are no more skilled than anyone else. The main thing is that they seem to do a better job of not hiring complete duds, so their average cleverness may be higher, but I’ve worked with brilliant people at every regular shop.
henry700•2h ago
AI-assisted migration of glue boilerplate code transforms this mind-boggling amount of impact into a two-year project, max.
LegionMammal978•2h ago
Only to the extent that the team is competent enough to properly test all that boilerplate code, which is very far from a given. A relative of mine in IT has had a large internal-tooling migration get dragged on for years by the persistently bug-ridden code of one of the groups working on it.
mlinhares•1h ago
These days it is really hard to figure out if comments like these are real or satire.
johncolanduoni•1h ago
The AI can’t migrate the knowledge of all the people that have to operate your on-prem VM deployments.
bityard•38m ago
What code? An on-prem VMWare deployment is all about hardware, storage, networking, and fuck-tons of planning, budgeting, and approvals. There is little to no customer-written code in a typical VMWare farm, except maybe some Ansible or whatever for minor customizations and automation.
fragmede•2h ago
The bigger issue is the lawyers get the money so go back to school as a lawyer and choose better parents.
eqvinox•2h ago
As someone who only knows Broadcom's silicon business: there, they're just used to people having no other choice, with their quasi monopoly in some fields. Are they (mistakenly) transferring that attitude to VMware?
natebc•1h ago
Yes.

Our 5 year ELA for vmware went from 1.5M USD to 12M USD. Higher ed.

Our Hyper-V environment is coming online this month. It was already included with our ELA with Microsoft so we were able to splash out a bit for some higher tier support.

bityard•32m ago
Mistakenly? No, Broadcom was very up-front about their plans to offload small customers and massively upcharge large customers pretty much the same week the purchase was announced. It's stupid, and Broadcom are certainly assholes, but they did give a LOT of advance warning.
haskellshill•1h ago
> who is ever going to sign up for another contract with [VMware]?

Oh geez I dunno, surely now it's over for them

n4r9•4h ago
> As The Register's European editor wearily remarked: "Search the site for Simon and VMware. We've got pages of this stuff. Go. Look."

In case anyone else was wondering who "Simon" is, I'm pretty sure it refers to this editor: https://www.theregister.com/Author/Simon-Sharwood

lewdwig•4h ago
To Broadcom you’re not a customer, you’re a mark, a patsy, stooge, a _victim_. Their aim is to establish exactly what they can get away with, how far they can abuse you, before you’ll just walk away.
travisgriggs•3h ago
But this is where all/most “platforms” go. As the product offering flounders over time, your quality talent (engineering and business) boils off to other opportunities. Then the short term value extraction methodologies show up, and everyone looks on in horror as the platform is “destroyed” through “mismanaged” consumer relationships.

Working in agtech, I’ve always wondered if this isn’t just the disenfranchised farmer story.

Give a farmer 1,000 acres to farm, and if they’re playing the long game, they’ll intermix their high value crops with responsible crop rotations. Managed well, this business can go on indefinitely.

But tell them they have 5 years left to farm the ground, and that the land will be of no value after that, they’ll grow the most expensive crop they can every year, soil quality be damned. It makes the most sense from a value extraction point of view.

Broadcom seems to be the kind of farmers that buy up forsaken land and extract as much value as possible before it finally fails.

walterbell•4h ago
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevemcdowell/2025/08/31/broadc...

> Many mid-market and regional operators view the new [subscription] structure as untenable and are actively exploring alternatives.. Nutanix emerged early as the leading competitive alternative to VMware.. over 2,700 new customers.. driven by organizations fleeing VMware's new pricing model.. [including] more than 50 Global 2000 companies, representing major enterprises willing to undertake complex, multi-year infrastructure overhauls.. With VMware serving approximately 200,000 customers globally, Nutanix sees most of the migration opportunity still ahead.

alephnerd•4h ago
> Many mid-market and regional operators

These aren't Broadcom's ICPs.

> Nutanix

Good for Nutanix. Market segmentation exists for a reason.

The article is also written by Steve McDowell, who's analyst firm (NAND Research) is sponsored by Nutanix [0][1]

Welcome to Enterprise Sales.

[0] - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93FbVZGDXoY

[1] - https://www.nutanix.com/theforecastbynutanix/technology/hype...

walterbell•3h ago
The article mentions several VMware alternatives:

  - RedHat OpenShift (k8s)
  - Scale Computing HC3
  - Wind River Cloud 
  - public cloud providers
Any other alternatives?
riddley•3h ago
Proxmox leaps to mind. HyperV, XCP-ng, raw KVM..
sherr•3h ago
Xen is still around, including an open-source version. It's not as visible as it used to be but works e.g. XenServer (https://www.xenserver.com/editions). I'd look at this over VMWare anyday.
stephen_g•3h ago
When I was looking at solutions, most of what I found seemed to indicate Xen is waning in popularity. I considered XCP-ng but since KVM seems to be more preferred now, I ended up going with Proxmox for a few small work (3-5 hosts) and home (1 and 3 host) systems. It’s actually been rock-solid, basically had zero problems with it.
walterbell•2h ago
> rock-solid

Perl FTW, https://github.com/proxmox/pve-common

cl0ckt0wer•3h ago
If you're looking at small self hosting then Proxmox.
travisgriggs•3h ago
That’s where my IT department said they’re headed the other day.
alexvitkov•4h ago
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

If you need 40,000 servers to keep your business running (which you don't, your ~3-8 million weekly transactions can be processed on 1 computer, but whatever), hire people that will work on you, and whose paycheck depends on keeping those computers working, to keep those computers working.

Game theory arguments like "they wouldn't screw me over because other people won't want to do business with them" don't work when the other party is trying to maximize quarterly earnings, and their long-term thinking is in the order of ~2 years.

amluto•3h ago
To be fair, and I know nothing about Tesco’s actual stack, a large grocery chain needs to track their contracts with suppliers, track their inventory in each location and in transit, track what goods they want in which locations, understand which larger pallets and big boxes contain which goods, track things prepped in house, and also optimize what to move from where, to where, and when and how. The latter part probably uses some spiffy stack involving something like CPLEX or Gurobi, and it’s not running on their “1 computer” OLTP stack.

That being said, I don’t see what 40k servers is for unless the POS machines are thin clients that use a substantial fraction of a server each.

regularfry•3h ago
A long and storied history of nasty surprises has taught me to never underestimate the complexity of an unfamiliar domain.

In that sense I'm surprised it's only 40,000.

alexvitkov•2h ago
If you're doing 10 million transactions per week (which is likely way more than what they're pulling) that's about 16 transactions processed per second. You can add inventory management, payroll management, you can run the company's email server, write all that in JavaScript, and you'll still have room to run a Minecraft server on the same laptop.

My point was not that running all that on one computer is a great idea, just that 40,000 servers for a CRUD application is way past what should be considered reasonable.

But even that's fine. I like computers, you can have 40,000 of them if you want, even if the only reason they exist is some guy's job security. However, you're insane if the guy keeping them running doesn't work for you.

Anonbrit•2h ago
You're suggesting that all Tesco branches should do all the PoS transactions online to a single server?

Tell me you've never designed a system at this scale without telling me you've never designed something at this scale...

IsTom•2h ago
Running it on a single laptop might be an exaggeration, but I can't imagine there's any essential complexity that requires more than a few dozen servers.
alexvitkov•1h ago
No, I did not suggest that, in fact in the very comment you're replying to I said:

  My point was not that running all that on one computer is a great idea...
Regardless, if you want to strawman my passing remark, I'm happy to defend it.

Let's even say my numbers are wildly wrong, and they're processing 100x more transactions than what I claimed (which was already an overestimate). Tell me why you can't process 1600 transactions per second on one computer, especially for a country the size of the UK, where you would expect a ~15ms ping when talking to a server on the other side of the country.

carlhjerpe•3m ago
It seems that you should work for Tesco, they would probably pay you well for reducing 40k VMs to 3.
skydhash•3h ago
Most admins are more keen to shift blame than to keep things running. Having another company to point fingers at is more attractive than a proper functioning team.
jansper39•3h ago
Numbers I found vary but Tesco has around 3500 stores in the UK alone alongside other chains they have a hand in. They also have a large online presence, click and collect operations, estates, data collection schemes and a whole logistics network to operate. I'd have actually thought it would be higher than ~11 VMs per store.
datadrivenangel•2h ago
That works out to ~11 computers/licenses per store, which sounds a tad high but also very easy to do if you let new system accrete over time and factor in the need for offline operations and redundancy across regions.
csomar•2h ago
The cashier register is probably running on a vmware.
jimt1234•1h ago
I'd hate to be the lowly, underpaid sysadmin who responded "40,000 servers" when asked the current number of servers, but he meant to respond "4,000 servers". LOL
andrewstuart•4h ago
Most startups struggle to get any clients and would lavish love on any the could.

Imagine being a company so big that your strategy is to kick your clients in the teeth then throttle revenue out of them.

Zigurd•4h ago
This is the ghost of Charlie Wang haunting the software industry. Computer Associates was notorious for this kind of licensing shenanigans. Guess where Computer Associates is now? A new generation of IT departments are discovering the Long Island wiseguy approach to licensing.
jm4•3h ago
I was running about 1000 machines on VMware in my previous career. It was always a love/hate relationship with them. We were able to achieve a lot of our goals using VMware and it was hard not to be ecstatic about the results. At the same time, they were always a nightmare to deal with, the software was buggy and support wasn't great.

I always dreaded renewal time because it was normal for them to use it as an opportunity to extort us. Microsoft was a breeze in comparison. It's funny because Microsoft always had such a horrible reputation. I don't know if I was just so abused by VMware or what, but Microsoft was just easy. We had an annual true-up date and we always knew where we stood with them. We reported our numbers and that was it. No surprises ever and there was never an issue if we didn't report any growth. VMware was always pulling some kind of shit and was absolutely determined to push us over budget every time.

sqircles•3h ago
If I never have to have two weeks of meetings around discussing how many vCAN points we will need for the next year ever again, I'll be a happy man.
colechristensen•3h ago
Microsoft is doing well and you were a small customer for them.

VMware on the other hand is dying because doing things that way hasn't been the state of the art for a long time.

kelsey98765431•2h ago
Doing things that way (virtualization rather than containerization) fell out of vogue specifically because of how bad vmware was to work with. CPU quotas were probably what pushed serious people away from the product instead of machine licenses. I was early in my career but working with vmware products was the bane of our existence because if we wanted to make any sort of configuration change or spin up a test machine or really do anything at all it had to run through accounting which was just an instant non starter. we all started fiddling with alternatives and docker swiftly became reliable at least for spinning up a new web server or testing the latest and greatest whatever. vmware did this to themselves.
jm4•2h ago
Exactly. You end up having to burn licenses for stuff like that, although I will concede that VMware always gave us more licenses than we paid for and they always included extra products. It was weird though. There was no rhyme or reason to it. One time they gave us 1000 licenses for VMware Fusion even though we didn't have any Macs. Microsoft, on the other hand, let us use whatever we wanted. If it was still around when it came time to true-up, we paid for it.
Thaxll•2h ago
The vast majority of containers run on VM not baremetal.
nyrikki•1h ago
But not on vmware, just zen and/or kvm with various management front ends.

VMware has always been a PITA, even in the late 2000's, we pivoted and bought several thousand physical machines for a new datacenter after they started to play tricks just weeks before we were going to turn up the DC.

They have always aspired to be Oracle like, where customers are hostages. Most people I knew who weren't stuck in the "Enterprise" trap moved to kvm/zen ASAP especially after the Westmere dramatically reduced the vm_exit() latency allowing for databases etc...

That was over 15 years ago, and outside of a very small number of niche use cases, tehre was no real argument to run container hosts on Vmware outside of a (IMHO) mistaken risk appetite.

It is really the fruit that ate itself, as had IT departments had a more data based risk assessment process, we would probably be heavily hybrid-cloud now. But the same Enterprise gravy train that VMware grew under killed them.

Shifting blame at great expense in licensing and agility to an _Enterprise_ solution was their jam...now Broadcom owns them an it is even worse.

nunez•1h ago
Not in the F100. They're all VMs, all of the time, all on vSphere. Nutanix was the next best solution, with Hyper-V as a distant third. Hence why Broadcom ate them.
jayofdoom•20m ago
This really seems only obviously true if you're counting docker/podman-desktop and similar dev tools which work via stashing containers in a VM. There are a ton of large scale kubernetes deployments made directly on baremetal.
wer232essf•2h ago
That really resonates with me, because I had a somewhat parallel experience in a past role, though in my case it wasn’t VMware but Citrix that gave me constant headaches. On paper, Citrix was exactly what we needed: centralized management, seamless remote access, and the ability to scale out applications to a distributed workforce. And to be fair, when everything was working smoothly, the performance was impressive and it gave leadership a sense of confidence that we had a modern solution. But under the hood? It always felt like we were standing on quicksand. Patches would break things unexpectedly, and their documentation was either vague or out of date. Half the time, I felt like I was cobbling fixes together from obscure forum posts rather than relying on official support.
sqircles•3h ago
The state of software companies is pretty terrible. I have been on the acquisition side as well as the development / end-user side and it’s mind-boggling knowing the exorbitant costs with bare minimum value delivered, yet companies just keep paying whatever they’re told it costs, until it’s comically astronomical and the customers have to tell them to get bent. Yet still, software vendors keep changing their licensing structure until it meets that comically astronomical figure and pushing customers away.

Enterprise software licensing, support contracts, and technical account managers (TAMs) often run into hundreds of thousands or millions annually per organization. Yet, in practice, support tickets go unresolved or ignored, even for large clients.

The software quality of our most expensive products is extremely poor and unreliable, almost across the board. Many products suffer from bugs, outdated features, or incompatibility issues that disrupt operations. In development roles, this means wasted time on workarounds, custom patches, or integrations that shouldn't be necessary. For a non-small organization, this scales up to significant productivity losses and hidden costs in overhead.

These companies actively alienate us, the customer, through their business practices. Changes like aggressive licensing shifts (e.g., moving from per-core to per-employee models) force reevaluations and migrations and eroding trust (i.e. Oracle with Java, VMWare fiasco). This isn't isolated—it's a pattern where short-term revenue grabs risk long-term relationships, yet companies seem unfazed.

This jacks the entire ecosystem up. These practices stifle innovation by locking customers into suboptimal tools, increase overall IT spend industry-wide, and contribute to employee burnout in dev and ops teams.

It seems like it’s a race to the bottom. The strategy is to create an ecosystem with high switching costs and vendor lock-in. It just doesn’t seem sustainable, yet- it keeps truckin’ along.

lenerdenator•3h ago
Charlie Munger once said something to the effect of "show me the incentives, and I'll show you the outcomes".

There is very little incentive to produce high-quality software, to not alienate your customers, and to support the thing you already sold. Those things cost money. Money paid for those things is money not paid to shareholders, and that's the ultimate incentive in our system.

They've got you by the balls, and secretly, your CEO thinks their CEO is a genius for thinking up and implementing that business model. Pay up.

csomar•2h ago
Software, done right, is both extremely hard and expensive. Hardware was cheapened by China/Asia but it is not happening for software (theirs generally sucks and they lack many fundamentals). Europe completely lost the race.

The current breed of managers in the US have decided to fire developers, abuse customers (you have nowhere to go) and burn all the money on AI (they believe it’ll solve all their problems).

Morale will remain low until an alternative spawns. Kinda with electric cars. Europeans, Japanese and Koreans are now forced to up their game and lower their prices.

carlhjerpe•20m ago
You're just saying things you want to be true, "Asian software" doesn't suck and Europe didn't lose.

Just because "all" software companies have American entities doesn't mean you "won", that's just what happens when a jurisdiction let's companies do anything even if it's detrimental to society as a whole.

TheCondor•1h ago
It seems like these problems are related to software and a certain size of corporation that is selling it. VMWare isn't hoping to make a few $million, they want/need to make a few $billion. And it is absolutely a race to the bottom when you can get Proxmox for free. Nevermind Harvester and some of the other projects out there are are doing kinds of similar things.

I was a beta tester for VMWare way back when. It was one of the first pieces of software I bought out of college. It was like manna from heaven, I could commit to Linux and have a backdoor for Windows and I needed it, and I did from time to time. I also did security testing over the years and once you've joined a machine to a Windows domain, it never can be made the same again. Vmware enabled that business without a spare laptop or spending tons of time rebuilding it. I've maintained the license since then, 25ish years. Bought it for the Mac too. I can't think of a worse transition than the one they're doing.

bluGill•3h ago
I know someone (I'm not going to say who - too many sue-happy people are accused here) who was using VMWare at work, and they decided to switch to virtualbox because they trusted Oracle more than Broadcom. Oracle has long has a reputation of being licensing jerks, but they are still trusted more than Boardcom.
garganzol•2h ago
Long-term VMware customer here and I am in the same boat as your friend.
johncolanduoni•1h ago
Broadcom is headquartered in Palo Alto, and their physical product lines are mostly manufactured outside China from what I can tell (Broadcom itself is fabless). Are you sure you don’t have them confused with another company?
garganzol•49m ago
Yes, sorry, my fault. It was indeed another company, I have updated the original message.
b3lvedere•3h ago
Perpetual licenses are eventually very bad for business if nobody pays for support. Nobody pays for support if they remotely think they will not need it. Shit starts hitting the fan when you actually need excellent support and get a (huge) invoice.

People would care a lot less if Broadcom had very gradually increase prices over 5 years or a decade, stopped support on version 7, stopped development on version 8 and gradually changed everything starting with version 9, but they decided in all their wisdom they wanted their investment back ASAP instead of waiting.

Maybe they should have looked at the licensing and support models Veeam uses.

whalesalad•2h ago
TIL VMware Fusion is free now. https://blogs.vmware.com/cloud-foundation/2024/11/11/vmware-...
washadjeffmad•1h ago
"As of March 2025, the current versions of VMware Fusion Pro and Workstation Pro are available at no charge for all use cases, including personal, educational, and commercial use. Users no longer need to purchase a license for these versions for any scenario. Broadcom will continue releasing updates and security patches but will no longer sell new support contracts for these versions."

FYI. I know we weren't the only ones left gun shy after Oracle's legal team reached out to let us know about the dozen or so employees using VirtualBox from their work laptops a few years ago.

whatever1•2h ago
You can either buy our product voluntarily or we can make you pay for it anyway.
IshKebab•1h ago
Kind of funny to see businesses screwed over by "lifetime" deals.
drewg123•28m ago
In a past life in the mid/late 2000s, I did 10GbE NIC drivers for a small IHV. VMWare was by far the most awful vendor to deal with. They had mandatory certification testing which was required to distribute the driver. Their tests were so much worse than MS WHQL. There was invariably something broken in their tests that we had to work around. Each time this happened, we had to go through their support (And pay for the privilege) to tell them their tests were broken and to give them patches to fix it. This would happen pretty much every driver release, and we would end up dealing with a different person each time.

My favorite thing about leaving that job was never having to deal with VMWare ever again.