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Things you can do with a Software Defined Radio (2024)

https://blinry.org/50-things-with-sdr/
262•mihau•2h ago

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film42•2h ago
Very cool post. If Jeff Geerling is reading this, I wouldn't mind watching a video on each of these ;)
_whiteCaps_•22m ago
Check out saveitforparts on youtube, he does lots of this stuff.
najarvg•1h ago
Astonishing! Thank you very much for sharing.. This sentence really stuck out for me - "I was proud! I was tired! I was amazed that all those things I received are all around us, everywhere, all at once – if you know where to look. :O"
privatelypublic•1h ago
Pictures are loading at a crawl, had to bail because the layout kept rerendering.

Looks like hug of death strikes again!

alright2565•1h ago
This page was very slow to load for me, probably partly because it's being hugged by HN. But it would help a lot if images had the `loading="lazy"` attribute, and if they were compressed to about ~100KiB each instead.
Mountain_Skies•1h ago
Hope they have an unlimited bandwidth plan. I bailed out at about #20, which is unfortunate because it's otherwise a nice list. I'm going to assume 51. Get a Free Kia, isn't part of it.
sandos•13m ago
I always forget that the US still has bandwidth caps.. something which has never really existed where I live for fixed broadband.
megaloblasto•1h ago
Sadly, you can't really get NOAA satellite images any more. NOAA-15 and 19 were decommissioned August 19, 2025, and NOAA 18 was decommissioned in June. It's my understanding that you'll need a much more powerful antenna to get images from the new satellites. Still, SDR is great fun. It's incredible to realize that all this information is stored in electromagnetic waves and passing through us all the time.
egorfine•1h ago
I wonder what does it entail to have a NOAA satellite decommissioned? Is it just turned off or is it directed to fall down into a designated area in the Pacific?
megaloblasto•1h ago
They will continue to orbit for about 150 years, slowly falling towards earth until the drag from the atmosphere burns them up.

"Like many older satellites, the POES satellites do not have thrusters to support a controlled reentry into Earth’s atmosphere at the end of their mission life. Instead, once passivated, they are safely powered down, placed in a non-operational state, and left in a stable orbit. Without onboard propulsion or significant atmospheric drag at their current altitude, NOAA estimates they will remain in orbit for roughly 150 years before gradually reentering the atmosphere and disintegrating."[1]

[1] https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/news/legacy-orbit-noaa-decommiss...

egorfine•1h ago
It sucks they power it down
jandrese•25m ago
Probably to recover the frequency for a newer satellite. The spectrum they transmit on is quite scarce.
gmiller123456•1h ago
I depends on the orbit. The low Earth ones would usually be de-orbited and fall back to Earth. The geosychronous ones are usually just moved to a parking orbit out of the way to make room for more. If it's in a high but not very crowded orbit, they might just stop using it.
toomuchtodo•1h ago
https://archive.today/T0q8E

https://web.archive.org/web/20250908132643/https://blinry.or...

a1o•1h ago
Over a decade ago I played with SDR sharp and a tv dongle and got to listen to very cool stuff. I don’t know if SDR sharp still exists, I think it was closed source at the time but free. I remember one could use it to decode stuff and then map to virtual ports to redirect to other software that expected an input from specialized hardware like ship signals and stuff like that.
sharksauce•22m ago
There is SDR++ : https://www.sdrpp.org/
clueless•1h ago
more than 15 years ago I got a chance to play with gnu radio and back then it was hailed as the next big industry.. fast forward, and beyond the hacking community (and the hobbyist), it still has not taken over.
NoiseBert69•1h ago
It's super popular within the RF industry.

But for the normal users - to be honest - most topics are too heavy on complex math. And there's no way to avoid it if you want results.

Most advanced radio stuff much more complicate than checking out a repo from GitHub and compiling it.

dummydummy1234•1h ago
My impression is that gnuradio is fine for prototyping/poc, but has issues in its design when you try and run production workloads with more complex workflows (ie, writing custom Mac layers/ workflows that involve heavy feedback, etc. you end up having to do a a lot of hacking around with the message passing infrastructure).

That being said last I used it extensively was v3 so maybe v4 is better. Did they get rid of thread per block and allow you to have a single thread service a sub signal chain? I remember that the number of context switches between threads, and balancing latency vs buffer sizes was a pain in the rear.

structural•5m ago
The threading model is still difficult, and it's still enough slower that thinking you're going to be comparable to custom silicon that's been designed for a particular protocol is silly.

It's great fun for doing signal analysis, but I'd never want to try and implement a full-duplex communication system in production with it.

rlmineing_dead•1h ago
I have a USRP B210 and its great fun for many things. One of my favorite things to do is create a small 2G GSM base station to use old phones!
fgbarben•54m ago
You say this as if it's an easy thing anybody might do -- like putting flowers in a vase in the kitchen. Isn't it pretty complicated?
Interesco•7m ago
I cant speak to 2G networks, but 5G (and 4G) are amazingly simple to get started using OpenAirInterface. With a USRP B210 I had a 5G network running from a bare Ubuntu install in under 30 minutes. I used a smartphone and some cheap (blank, user-writable) SIM cards to connect and test it.
Junnn•1h ago
wow
amelius•1h ago
Is there SDR for the GHz range of signals used by modern equipment?
rlmineing_dead•1h ago
You can get an AD9363 clone of the USRP b210 online for like, 300 USD?

The AD9363 stock is only supposed to be 325mhz to 3.8ghz but stuff like the plutoSDR which uses it manages to get the transceiver all the way from 70mhz to 6ghz like the more expensive AD9361 used in the real USRP B210s

Benefit is you can transmit stuff too, not just receive unlike the RTL-SDR which is RX only

Bender•1h ago
Is there anything like this that can go down to 15 MHz or lower? including transmit and several analog modes of modulation USB LSB NFM WFM AM CW at least
kavouras•49m ago
If I understand what you're saying, you can do any modulation scheme with sdr, it doesnt depend on the model
Bender•45m ago
Groovy. Are there any limiting factors such as processor speed and what is the best software that does it all on Linux? I have no idea what ratio of magic smoke is in the software vs. ratio of magic smoke is in the hardware.
megaloblasto•1h ago
HackRF One can go up to 6GHz ($400 new or $100 on alibaba for a similar device). Any higher frequency than that you'll be paying thousands.
rlmineing_dead•1h ago
Yeah I dont know any SDR above 6GHZ but also other than mmwave 5G I also dont know much radio that is above 6Ghz in general
amelius•53m ago
Looks cool, except it uses USB2 which seems rather limiting in view of bandwidth.
EvanAnderson•1h ago
Receiving 433Mhz sensor data using rtl_433[0] with an RTL SDR was a lot of fun when I started doing it last year. There's MQTT output if you want to send it to Home Assistant, et. al., as well as simple text output to stdout. It was great fun seeing my neighbors' sensors, tire pressure sensors in passing vehicles, etc.

There a ton of devices that use 433Mhz. You can also extend rtl_433 pretty easily.

[0] https://github.com/merbanan/rtl_433

fullstop•56m ago
I was hoping to find more devices around me which use 433. Apparently my neighbors don't have any 433MHz devices.
EvanAnderson•51m ago
I'm spoiled. One of my receivers is on a second story and has great line-of-sight to a bunch of houses and a parking lot (where I assume I get a lot of my TPMS "hits").
fullstop•45m ago
I was able to read some data from my electric meter, but the good stuff is encrypted.

What I was _really_ hoping to read was my water meter. It transmits so infrequently, though, so it's hard get much of anything or even know if you're successfully receiving something more than noise.

rpcope1•44m ago
A lot of the 433/915 band devices you can pick up with rtl_433 seem to be much more bullet proof and have longer battery life than equivalent WiFi and Zigbee devices too. Building new protocol decoders for rtl_433 also surprisingly isn't too bad either. One of my favorite ones is the water meter decoder which has saved me a lot of money when I've had irrigation water leaks and not noticed them (but saw conspicuous usage patterns reported).
ortusdux•1h ago
I've been wanting to experiment with SDR triangulation. There are some off the shelf options, but I think it would be fun to cobble something together using dongles.

https://www.crowdsupply.com/krakenrf/krakensdr

_whiteCaps_•23m ago
One of the people in my local radio club did a demonstration of tracking down a commercial operation using amateur radio frequencies with the KrakenSDR. It's very impressive. I think the timing would be much more difficult using off the shelf dongles.
colanderman•19m ago
https://khanfar-spectrum-analyzer.web.app/ also has some phase-based direction-finding software and upcoming hardware.

For triangulation though, if you have a reference signal at a known location, TDoA (time difference of arrival) requires less hardware (just a single receiver at each location, e.g. an RTL-SDR). I don't know of any open-source software which does that though I've been slowly building some for my own use (it's pretty janky at the moment).

tedggh•1h ago
I got a walkie talkie set as a Christmas present when I was 8. Which was kind of an evil thing to do given I had no siblings or friends to play with. One day I turned one set on and listened for a while and I thought I heard someone talking behind all the static noise. So I said something and was shocked to hear the voice talking back to me. Fast forward a few decades, next week is my wedding and that voice on the other side of the radio is my best man.
thenobsta•54m ago
I got chills reading this. Congrats!
fullstop•54m ago
This is awesome, and future congratulations on your wedding!
brulard•51m ago
I expected the voice on the other side being your soon-to-be wife. But good story nevertheless. Congrats!
mtlynch•51m ago
Congrats! That's such a cool story!

>Fast forward a few decades, next week is my wedding and that voice on the other side of the radio is...

I think I've seen too many rom-coms because I was sure this sentence going to end with "my fiance." : )

behnamoh•39m ago
This is awesome, and congratulations!
ge96•1h ago
Like 13 years ago when I was doing FPV I remember soldering my own skew-planar/quadrifilar antennas with bendable wire ha, the photo of the short yellow dipole reminded me of it. I think it's a dipole or double-dipole not sure.

edit: I think it's just a dipole

fullstop•47m ago
I have been feeding ADSB data to public feeds for almost two years now: https://i.imgur.com/p9dRiVP.png

It runs on an Orange Pi Zero 3 SBC.

ComputerGuru•30m ago
I was informed maybe 7 or 8 years back that my electric company would be replacing my analog meter with a smart one and always intended to try and glean more information about my electric consumption habits from it. It took me a lot longer than I intended, but last year I finally bought an RTL-SDR in the hopes of being able to get realtime info from the meter. Unfortunately, it seems that it's not one of the ones that emits consumption info over 433mhz for consumption by household appliances (so far as I can tell) and I ended up only capturing info from TPMS sensors off of passing cars (which was cool, but not really what I was looking for).

Do note that if you purchase an RTL-SDR these days, you'll probably get a v4 which, at least as of last year, does not play out-of-the-box at all with the software available on the Ubuntu apt repos and the RTL-SDR drivers that ship with 24.04 out-of-the-box — there were some hardware protocol/interface changes between v3 and v4 that make the old drivers incompatible and you'll get a litany of misleading or non-specific errors if you try without downloading and installing the latest drivers from GitHub (or somewhere).

vel0city•20m ago
A number of smart meters communicate over the mains wires, especially when they're in very sparse areas. There was even a thought for a bit to offer internet services over the power distribution cables, but I don't think they ever really got effective data rates high enough to be competitive.
ComputerGuru•18m ago
Yes, that seems to be what mine is doing as my ecobee thermostat is able to read info about peak usage times from the mains. I didn't know about the latter part though, I never imagined electric companies were making a play for the internet (though it seems like an obvious thought in retrospect).
lpln3452•21m ago
Nice blog. It would be great if there was a table of contents to see everything at a glance.
ComputerGuru•17m ago
People are commenting about issues loading the images leading to them abandoning reading the article. Here is a fully cached copy of TFA, but note that the videos (and images, but especially the videos) load _really_ slowly https://web.archive.org/web/20240317122351/https://blinry.or... (but they do load if you wait long enough).

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