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The New Collabora Office for Desktop

https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-office/
59•mfld•3h ago

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karel-3d•1h ago
Collabora vs LibreOffice branding is always quite confusing to me.

How is this project related to LibreOffice and also to what used to be called LibreOffice Online? (And Collabora Office Classic. And Collabora Online)

aaron_oxenrider•1h ago
I was also curious. It says this in about the middle of the homepage:

"We love LibreOffice. We are privileged to be the largest code contributors to the codebase, Collabora employs several founders of The Document Foundation, and many of the top committers. We offer a Long Term supported product based on LibreOffice, branded as Collabora Office Classic, and are deeply grateful for and acknowledge many skilled community contributors we work alongside, as well as the incredible range of features that LibreOffice code enables."

karel-3d•1h ago
I think - not sure - that

* Collabora Online is rebranded, and hosted, LibreOffice Online

* or rather - LibreOffice Online never really existed and it was always Collabora Online Development Edition (I cannot find any LibreOffice Online that's not just Collabora Online Development Edition)

* Collabora Office for Desktop is Collabora Online, packaged as a desktop app

* Collabora Office Classic is just rebranded LibreOffice

* Collabora (the company) is one of the biggest contributors to LibreOffice

abdullahkhalids•9m ago
On Wikipedia, there is a fairly complicated timeline chart of the various LibreOffice variants [1]. Same article also says

> Ecosystem partner Collabora uses LibreOffice as upstream code to provide a web-based suite branded as Collabora Online, along with apps for platforms not officially supported by LibreOffice, including Android, ChromeOS, iOS and iPadOS.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#History

HexDecOctBin•1h ago
Why is 'Differences between Collabora Office and Collabora Office Classic' document gated behind a email-wall? Nothing but enshittification.

https://www.collaboraonline.com/case-studies/differences-bet...

eviks•1h ago
But how will we spam you if you don't give us email?
gowld•1h ago
Even funnier when you try that from the "freedom" whitepage download https://www.collaboraonline.com/case-studies/opendesk/

If you don't give an email address, it doesn't even prompt you to ttry again. It just bugs out and redirects to a home page with a broken URL attempting to inject HTML from client side.

That's strange because the only reason for a user to use OpenOffice/Collabra is because they don't want to deal with an annoying company that makes a far superior product. If the inferior product is also run by an annoying company, why bother?

tracker1•34m ago
Yeah, I'd say that's the gist of it altogether... I get they want to monetize hosting/support etc.. but they should really try not to gatekeep what should be basic/public information.

I'd still probably put Collabra above Google Docs, but definitely a step below even MS Office Online, err 365, err CoPilot App or whatever the hell they're calling it now... (naming issues not withstanding). Though MS has been enshitifying the offline versions of office a lot, not to mention Outlook in particular.

Aside: Why MS hasn't done a version of "Microsoft Access Online" with a WASM port of VBA in order to lift/shift Access apps into a hosted environment that's backed by Azure SQL under the covers is kind of beyond me. I mean, it shouldn't take too much effort at this point with the level of tooling MS has been capable of.

Access was the distilled VB + Database apps kind of thing that a lot of SOHO really thrived on, and they could totally (re)capture that market with a bit of legacy uplift/support along with a newer model/design. Displacing the winforms models with webforms and a dedicated server/service system. 3 versions to start, a legacy/support, a bridge and a new model where it's TS/JS and monaco for editing instead of VBA/wasm/webforms in a browser/canvas. People are running older versions of Windows in wasm/x86 emulation... making that pretty and wrapping hosted access runtimes should be somewhat reasonable. Shouldn't it?

whyleyc•58m ago
Don't bother, I tried with a disposable email address and they make you subscribe to a mailing list before sending you the download link. When you do eventually get it, it's a 3 page puff marketing PDF.

I converted it to TXT and pulled out the only bit of interest here:

                  Collabora Office                              Collabora Office Classic
                  Fresh, modern UX                                Classic, established UX
  Javascript & CSS UI to match Collabora Online                    VCL-based classic UI
       Simpler settings / streamlined defaults           Very extensive options, menus & dialogs
                       No Java                       Java used for some features/wizards/DB drivers
                 No built-in Base app                                Includes Base UI
                     Runs macros                    Full macro editor & advanced BASIC/Python/UNO
      Modern web tech (Canvas, WebGL, CSS)                         Custom toolkit (VCL)
     Fast to iterate (edit JS, fewer recompiles)      Core/C++ changes typically require recompiles
   Initial release – Enterprise Support is coming            Long term Enterprise Supported
       Quick Start Guides and video tutorials                  Extensive manuals & books
nico•1h ago
This is probably great software. But the design, both of the site and the office software, looks so dated, it doesn’t even tempt me to try it
boobsbr•1h ago
It looks like MS Office, what's so bad about it?
PxldLtd•1h ago
It looks like a 2015 wordpress template
karel-3d•1h ago
It is actually very, very janky and behaves like someone tried to reimplement ~15 years old Office UI in JavaScript. Not in a good way.

I really, really want them to be successful, but I cannot pretend it's a pleasure to use at all.

mixmastamyk•25m ago
Could you be more specific?
doubled112•22m ago
When I tried it last, it was painfully slow. Have there been any improvements on the performance front lately?

Typing in a word processor should not have input lag in 2025. It wasn't just a little lag, but the type and watch it catch up kind of lag.

nritchie•1h ago
I don't care about dated looks. I do find MS Office's pressure to use OneDrive frustrating and annoying. Honestly, older UIs for office suite products just feel more direct and responsive than the clever ribbon bars. Excel used to be svelte (25 years ago or more...) Now it feels bloated and clumsy. LibreOffice Calc (same parentage as Collabora Office) feels more like Excel used to feel. Similar complaints about Word.
esafak•53m ago
The open source world needs more designers.
tracker1•27m ago
A lot of open-source doesn't have a process to integrate and follow a design strategy from a designer. A business can mandate that work be done to adapt/follow a given design strategy... for open-source it's often harder to do so... and even then you face the same or more resistance to change.

It took basically a corporate control for Audacity to make its' difficult transition to a better design from its' mediocre one. That said, I'd love to see something modern transformed from The Gimp's core in a similar way. That doesn't even begin to cover what you might want in terms of inter-app collaboration...

KdenLive, Blender, Gimp, Krita, InkScape, Audacity and other tooling, as an example, all use different UI/UX base libraries, and no clean way to cross-integrate features between them if someone wanted to assemble an open-source Adobe alternative. There's no baseline equivalent to even MS/Office's use of COM/DCOM for interoperability.

scottmcdot•34m ago
Working with data I need to be objective, and while thinking objectively I prefer brutal/minimal ist UIs
eviks•1h ago
Seems to be a dumbed down UI with less customization, but built with shiny new browser tech (Canvas, WebGL, CSS)! Also limited macros. No embedded Java
Squarex•1h ago
Is it based on some open source core? Like the original Collabora Office?
nusl•1h ago
looks like LibreOffice
Squarex•1h ago
I have not tried LibreOffice Online in many years, but it does not look like LibreOffice at all. It has the MSOffice ribbon clone. It is closer to OnlyOffice
amazari•1h ago
It is LibreOffice at its heart, but wrapped with a web-techs UI, AFAIK.
thedudeabides5•57m ago
Nice, does it have Excel for Windows hotkeys?
esafak•54m ago
You can customize them: https://help.collaboraoffice.com/latest/en-GB/text/scalc/04/...
jaffa2•54m ago
Hmm. I can't actually find the link to start using it to try it out. ? It offers a Free Demo that is behind some kind of details harvesting form. I don't want a demo. Is this usable enough to move a small (6 people) team away from google sheets ? hard to say since i can't test it and it doesn't say what the cost is. Stop hiding your shit behind hard to navigate/use/privacy invading bullshit. Just let us use the stuff. If you must gimp it, do it in a way that doesn't stop us using it first.
browningstreet•46m ago
On my screen, the words "Download Now" are the biggest on the page.
tiahura•36m ago
Why doesn't Amazon adopt libreoffice?
guimi•29m ago
Download button takes me to windows store. That doesn't work on my machine. On Linux got as a flatpak.

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